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    I’m not an old dude, but I mean these women need that crowd to make money. It’s weird calling them creeps but at the same time they are posting nearly nude photos of themselves publicly on social media. Who do they think is following that content? Physicists at CERN calculating the new gravitation force off of your oversized diaper butt BBL? medical doctors determining the tolerance a 115lb woman with 1000cc of silicone can tolerate? Get real, you’re posting your tits because you know exactly those types of dudes will follow and you can either trick them into giving you money for feet pics or buying you a weekend in Dubai.

    These 22 year old “model influencers” will be begging for these old dudes to pay them attention when they hit the wall in 5 years.

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          That “hit the wall” stuff is always hilariously transparent. It’s a self-soothe. “She won’t be worth it in a few years anyway so you’re not missing out.”

          I’m 38 and the wall where I stop getting unwanted attention sure never seems to come. Which is disappointing. I’m really looking forward to my crone era.

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            Your comment very much reminds me of an episode of 30 Rock in which Liz Lemon starts dressing like an old crone and acting crazy on the subway to secure a place to sit.

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            So the moral of the story is that boobies are good even after they turn 27?

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            I have written this before, but I don’t think it actually stops. I do not think it’s even about looks really. Or at least I’m over 50 and still getting catcalled on my way to work. Fully expect to be 90 and have some kid yell “Lookin’ spry, grandma!” at me from a moving car.

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            Have you started collecting toadstool and eye of newt? How is your mad cackle coming along? Are you behind on setting up your 401crone?

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          Is an incel someone who doesn’t white knight for women who couldn’t care less about their own existence? It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”. Yeah, I was exaggerating when I was saying 27 but there are tons of women online regretting not taking relationships more seriously when they were in their 30’s.

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            It’s gotten to the point where incel just means “a guy who believes men and women should be equal”.

            No, that’s not even remotely true, and it’s not what your previous comment was saying either.

            Incels are essentially misogynists with a sexual fixation. Like classical misogynists tend to be more occupied with women having jobs or holding positions of power, while incels tend to be more upset about women’s sexual habits, but both are preoccupied with hating on women they deem to be misbehaving.

            I think the part of your previous comment that gave the most ‘incel vibes’ was the bit about women begging for attention after ‘hitting the wall’ in their 20s. Maybe you intended it as a comment on women who regretted not taking relationships more seriously in their 30s, but it came off as a sort of fantasy where the women who transgressed your model of how ladies should act get their just desserts.

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            Lingua franca dude. I’ve never heard “hit the wall” used outside the man-o-sphere. Maybe not exclusively incel, but incel adjacent at least.

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            If men only date women below 30 (or 27 apparently??) for their youthful appearance, what incentive do those women have to take dating seriously? Those men won’t stay anyway. This is the main contradiction in incel rhetoric. If you don’t like to look at women past 30, women shouldn’t date you “seriously “ while in their 20s.

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            It’s become a generic insult like re*d or faot was. Or still is for some people. Probably the same crowd. Saying that creepy old dudes are generally mainly interested in younger women and would lose interest as they get older is kinda the point of why they’re creepy old dudes. Not an incel thing to say, just how creepy old dudes work.

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        I will say that by 27 creepy old men did stop yelling their attraction at me as I walked down the street, which was nice

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      You may not be an old dude, but it sure seems like you already hit the wall.

      Friend of mine’s father, who was seventy at the time, got hit on by an older lady at the grocery store.

      Lamenting that he didn’t follow it up with her, “she was eighty, but a young eighty, if you know what I mean”

      Wall? Gtfo, dumbass

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        I think you may have misunderstood.

        If you’re a 22yo “influencer” and your target market is people who follow 22yo influencers then it will be difficult to generate engagement when you’re 27.

        That doesn’t seem that controversial to me, and I don’t see how octogenarians getting laid at the supermarket is relevant?

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        The post wasn’t about ordinary women going through their lives in healthy ways. It was about young women influencers and the old men who follow them. The reason why is obvious.

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    Guess I’m the only one who read her post and thought the wives were the ones following the young Women.

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    I don’t follow any of them yet they still flood my instagram „search“ tab.

    Not that I complain.

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      Do you get constant targeted ads for devices to keep leaves out of your gutters? All I seem to get are those, belts and fat men t-shirt ads.

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          I have no gutters and I’m a skinny dude with no ass. Better targeted ads would be roof rakes, pants with a <30 waist and suspenders.

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        Yes belly old man T-shirts are the worst as I’m working hard on NOT having a belly and this like like saying „fuck you you gonna get it regardless, that’s what algorithm already knows“

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      I’m 50 and get posts from OnlyFans accounts and advertising for kegels exercises, mixed in with woodworking videos. I blame all the other men out there. No wonder I don’t use social media much anymore. I just want to see my friend’s and family’s pics/vids.

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    Let people like what they like, whether it’s looking at girls online, cosplay, sports, or being an insufferable cunt on social media.

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    I always find it peculiar and proof of self-hatred that humans are so averse and judgemental about reveling in our sexuality.

    It’s a major part of who we all are, whether we choose to deny that or not. Cultures and world religions always run by monied interests would prefer we spend our time miserable collecting more for their dragon hoard piles as they live in hyper-decadent debauchery, and most of us have been too fucked in the head with sexual and “don’t be laaaazy” shame to be fixable, but humanity would have been so much happier if we spent less time sacrificing ourselves to the God of economic metastasis and more time fucking, especially in an age of birth control.

    We might not even have put ourselves on the express lane to self-extinction we’re currently careening down in search of more treasure for the masters.

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      Sex is free, fun, and everyone can do it. We can’t have that in capitalism, why would people work for money?

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      I think the issue is, when reveling in your sexuality, everyone involved must consent. It’s hard to say whether posting pics of you in revealing clothes is consent for old men to ogle or not. I’d say if you post it publicly, then it should be fine for said old men to respectfully ogle. But if said old men decide to comment something like, “would love to squirtle on those jigglypuffs” on the revealing image, we’re suddenly entering nonconsensual territory. So there’s a fine line and it’s easy to cross. Simply loving looking at boobs on the internet is fine; many women enjoy being admired. But if you take it any further, that’s when problems arise. Enjoy your sexuality responsibly, my friends. 💕

      Edit: it’s both extremely telling and extremely concerning how much my rational take on consent is triggering all these pathetic men.

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        If you don’t want people spreading your images, wanking to your images, making crude comment about your images, oogling your images, etc etc. And I don’t mean just nudes, I mean any picture you post…

        Then don’t post them online.

        because once they hit the internet, in any capacity, you’ve lost all control of them, forever. They will still be there to be discovered when you are lying in a nursing home at 104 years old, Your descendants so far removed that they dont even know your name will still be at risk of stumbling upon them. People on the other side of the planet might use it in advertising or virtual sex dolls without you ever knowing.

        You might not like it, you might not want it, you might not consent to it, but its still going to happen.

        And if you want it to not happen, don’t post things online. Because not posting is the only control you’ll ever be able to exert over them.

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          Whatever you say, really don’t care. I don’t need some rando to tell me shit I already know.

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            “I don’t care what some rando has to say, now let me go back to posting on the site full of randos talking to eachother. BUT THEY BETTER NOT REPLY TO ME!”

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              Sorry, I should have said I don’t care to be mansplained about basic shit about how posting things on the internet works. You guys are really fucking obnoxious, it’s telling how badly my comment about consent set you all off.

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                I’ve literally been sexually assaulted and you set me off too. Maybe you’re just a fucking dumbass

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                  Well, as someone who’s been through it, I’d really hope you of all people would understand the fucking importance of consent.

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      After I quit porn, I became more sensitive to the minds and souls of women, and now my sexual attraction can flow to a desire for the women being happy.

      This may seem counterintuitive if you have an addiction involving lust, but I am now more completely reveling in my sexuality.

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    I don’t really see how wives following a bunch of young women is weird, they often socialize quite a bit with each other.

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    This is what peak mansplaining looks like. She didn’t ask a question and I’m sure she already knows the why.

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        So do yourself and FartMonster2k not know about PornHub, or…?

        An older adult following a bunch of much younger people on normal social media for sexual purposes is 100% weird.

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          How old do you think the women on pornhub are? What makes them more acceptable to look at over the women on instagram? I mean if we’re talking about dudes perving on private social media accounts of 15 year olds, yeah of course that’s fucked up. But that isn’t at all the implication I got here, rather I assumed he’s talking about OnlyFans models and other young women (not girls) who are offering their looks as a product, like Yellz0 or Kaitlyn Krems. In that case, this is extremely normal, and not really any different than the nearly 100 years of Hollywood; or did you assume the beautiful young starlets were only meant to appeal to their age peers (despite being cast and promoted by primarily older men)?

          Hollywood, magazines, art, sales catalogues, and pornography; they are all selling the sexual appeal of young adulthood. And so long as the men and women being gazed at are willingly and consensually offering the display of their body, and they’re of legal and intellectual ability to consent, then nobody is being wronged here, and nobody is behaving abnormally. These women deserve respect (as do the women on pornhub, to be clear; I’m still trying to understand what separates the two entities to you), and stepping over established boundaries, personal or social, is not okay obviously, but assuming the caveats I’ve outlined, I see nothing disrespectful about buying what somebody is willfully selling.

          As for the age gap… look, we can pretend to be this perfectly evolved species of always equitable and simple moral choices while ignoring literally the whole of human history which heavily implies an attraction in humans to young adulthood that doesn’t seem to wean with age, or we can accept reality for what it is, warts and all. Personally for me, I just don’t see how infantilizing young adults as if they are helpless children in need of constant coddling and viewing every relationship as an inherent competition of power and experience where any imbalance implies irreconcilable differences benefits us as a society.

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              Okay, I’ll try to make it more appropriate for you. Ahem:

              Why woman sell sex on pornhub okay, but women sell sex on instagram bad?

              Also human think young adult sexy. Always, but also now.

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                Not op, but imma be honest with you, I’m currently drunk at an airport bar and I appreciate the absolute fuck out of this tldr

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                You assume they’re following sex workers on instagram. Nowhere in post it say that. Plenty of weird dudes out there

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                  Young adult women who post thirst traps are looking to be looked at. Especially if they aren’t on a private profile.

                  It’s normal for men of all ages to look at women who consent with open permissions.

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                  Yellz0 and Kaitlyn Krems are not “sex workers,” unless you expand the term so broadly so as to include anyone offering titillation, at which point every model and most actors would fall under it as well.

                  So no, I am specifically not assuming they follow sex workers, I am assuming they follow people who offer titillating content, as expressed.

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          At one point, if you explicitly put your body on social media, multiple time, on multiple platforms, that’s kind of the expected behaviour no?

          Sometimes, i wanna watch porn and sometimes I want to look at women that I find attractive. Does that mean that I have to exclusively watch someone my age?

          I much prefer looking at women my age, but let’s be real, the older I get, the less I see them on social media.

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          So an older adult following a bunch of younger people on a porn site is ok?

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              You have a strange moral stance where looking at still pictures of boobs is terrible but watching porm is fine. Where do you stand on looking at fully clothed women?!

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                  Don’t people consent to other people looking at their pictures when they post them publicly online?

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                  I think that your line of argument is very strange indeed and I’m not sure that porn websites are quite as full of women making choices completely free of coercion as you’re making out.

                  If you had asked me where on the Internet women have the most autonomy, have their preferences enacted most carefully and where their consent was prized, I wouldn’t have guessed in a thousand years that you expected me to answer “porn websites”.

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      This is what peak mansplaining looks like

      Is this just a new form of “Who asked?”? I mean, people can still speak out their opinions even if no one asked