• don@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    64
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Also cat: my asshole tastes acceptable today. Also human: that asshole I just ate tastes acceptable today.

    Obvious conclusion: cats and humans are genetically identical.

  • Jesus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    51
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    How many of you have cats that look like they should be in a hair commercial?

    Edit: ITT, Send me cat pics

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    45
    ·
    2 months ago

    I can guarantee you that cat was brushed by a human just before that shot. No alley cat in the wild would ever look like that from just licking.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Good nutrition too. That’s a cat that gets the best and it shows.

      Hot tip for humans: You too can have healthier hair if you eat better, get sleep, exercise and reduce stress!

      (Unless you have baldness genes, in which case, shave that shit and own it.)

      • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        The Soviets built cost effective, durable homes for all their homeless (tens of millions since most of the destruction in ww2 happened on the eastern front) and the world will never forgive them for it.

        • Donebrach@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          2 months ago

          they also disappeared millions of people and oversaw an oppressive police state for 80 years, then collapsed their country into the criminal oligarch state that is the modern Russian Federation. Fuck the Soviets.

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    2 months ago

    It’s not implausible that, among the enzymes in cat saliva, there are some which evolved to maintain the condition of the cat’s coat.

    • Lokisan@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yup. I only wash my hair with water. No shampoo. We never needed that shit in the first place

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 months ago

        You should clean your hair to limit bacterial growth and remove pests. You just don’t need to strip the oils out daily.

      • Nurgus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 months ago

        You and I have VERY different hair then. My hair is horrific if I get it wet and don’t soap it.

        • Enkrod@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          Exactly, my hair will morph into every possible haircut at once as soon as it get’s wet and then dries without having been soaped.

          • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 months ago

            i have long hair and it’s horrific when i take care of it. without all the gross oils and sticks and rocks my hair balloons

  • Phoonzang@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    2 months ago

    Also something related I never came to grips with: cat’s breath = the stench of a thousand decaying corpses. Licks fur constantly. Fur = the smell of springtime itself.

    My (unfortunately late) void had a scratching post with the top level just at my nose height, so whenever he lolled around there I made a point of taking a deep breath of fluffy freshness.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      2 months ago

      I have owned many cats, and I have huffed deeply of them all.

      Cat fur, cat toes, cat bellies, all have these unique and wonderful scents that are probably more connected to our emotional connections to them than the actual nature of the scent itself. This should teach us a lot about social conditioning and our senses.

    • sh__@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      My cats breath isn’t really bad. I thought if their breath was bad it means they likely have something wrong in there.

      • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 months ago

        Economically no. I live in the UK and use Bella and Duke. Not sure if they trade in any other countries. I gave them my cat’s weight and for £43.80 they send me just enough food to feed him for a month.

        That’s a bit pricey compared to supermarket cat food but frankly I can afford it and it’s worth it for the health benefits as well as the convenience. Also I can’t think of a company I’ve ever had better customer service from. They called me the day after I received my first box and asked if I had any issues.

        From what I’ve read it can help delay the kidney problems that inevitably come with age. Like I say I’ve noticed an improved coat but more importantly he doesn’t vomit anymore which he used to occasionally and he has firmer, less frequent, better smelling turds.

        • thawed_caveman@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          If you think of it a certain way, £43.80 per month is a lot cheaper than people food.

          Speaking of which, what about leftovers from butchers and fishmongers? You can get not just meat and bones but liver and other parts, it’s processed to human standards of hygiene, and it’s cheap.

          • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            Speaking of which, what about leftovers from butchers and fishmongers?

            Probably a good, cheap way to go if you can find a butcher or fishmonger that’s willing to sell it to you.

            But I prefer the convenience of getting it delievered as I do with most stuff.

  • MissJinx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    2 months ago

    I have 2 cats, the orange has a thicker fur and it was never very soft but the tuxedo has a velvet, soft, shinny fur. It’s so amazing that I pet her for too lomg sometimes and get a removed slap

  • Bob@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    2 months ago

    You don’t need shampoo or conditioner except sometimes medicinally!

        • moody@lemmings.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          And conditioner in most cases is just a bunch of solvents and surfactants meant to spread silicone over your hair.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        you really don’t i’ve only ever had one person comment on my not washed hair, and they were autistic, and also a female.

        Literally nobody cares.

        • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Hair that hasn’t been washed for a while has a smell. It may not bother you, or the smell might not reach 3+ feet away to offend others. But if you get a whiff it’s not pleasant, IMO.

          Everyone is free to do whatever they like with their bodies. Others should reserve the right to think something isn’t pleasant, though.

          • Bob@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            Oi, I said you don’t need shampoo or conditioner, not that you don’t need to wash your hair.

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            what do you mean when you say “not pleasant” are we talking “this hand soap doesn’t smell like anything and that’s weird and i don’t like it” or are we talking “this smells vaguely of a person that exists and does things sometimes”

              • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                i think i understand what you mean, but i don’t think that’s inherently negative, i think we’ve just been so aggressively primed to “smell nice” with all the artificial smells that we live in, from soap, shampoo, conditioner, laundry detergent, cologne, perfume, etc…

                that the “neutral” human smell is sort of “lost” to the average person.

    • timeisart@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s been 2 years now since I’ve used shampoo, just been rinsing with water only since. I’m no cosmetologist but my hair feels perfectly normal and healthy, and without telling him anything’s changed, my barber hasn’t been able to tell a difference. The first few weeks after stopping using shampoo my hair did get pretty greasy, but it eventually settled down and now it’s totally fine. Instead of stripping away the natural oils with shampoo and replacing them with the synthetic oils in conditioner, just let your natural oils come back. Granted, this doesn’t apply to everyone, I am lucky enough to have a hair type that I’m able to do this with.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        28
        ·
        2 months ago

        Your barber probably wouldn’t tell you if they think your hair is kinda gross unless it was so bad they wanted to reject you as a client.

        • timeisart@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          2 months ago

          lol that’s true but I should’ve said that I asked him how my scalp looks (since I can’t really look at it closely myself), and he said “yeah seems fine, maybe a little dry.” That is one thing that I noticed during the winter that dandruff got a little worse since skin dries out during the winter, but when it warms back up the dandruff dies down again. So again just to be clear, not everyone can stop using shampoo/conditioner especially if they have some kind of scalp condition, but for those people with the right hair type, it’s totally fine and really not a big deal at all. You don’t stink, your hair doesn’t smell like anything at all really (as long as you are still regularly taking showers, I’m not saying to stop taking showers lol).

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            its been so long so i cant say for sure, but i feel like when my hair gets really sweaty its really obvious to me now as well, it feels like it was less obvious when i did actively shampoo and condition, but i’d have to test that one to be sure lol

          • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            My scalp condition is that I have too much hair. Too dense and thick, it gets greasy after not washing it 1 day, so I don’t even dare to replicate your experiment.

            I also used to have a cold weather dandruff problem, but that was solved entirely when I started always air drying after every shower. Thanks to a random tip years ago on reddit. My dandruff problem was apparently because of humidity.

            • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              2 months ago

              The adjustment period is real. I was showering twice a day when I stopped shampooing, because my hair (lots of it, but fine and not coarse) got greasy quick. After a few weeks, it normalized. I can shower once a day now. I still wash it by running my fingers and water through it over and over, so it doesn’t smell. I still have a somewhat dry scalp though, it didn’t really fix that. Don’t really have dandruff, but if I scratch my scalp a bunch or use a comb directly on it several times, I’ll have to rinse the dandruff out.

            • Cethin@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              2 months ago

              Potentially part of your issue is that you use shampoo, particularly if it’s really strong. Shampoo strips oil from your hair, which is why you need conditioner to add oil back. Your scalp naturally produces oil to protect your hair. If you strip it, particularly if you don’t replace it, your scalp will go crazy producing oil.

              Eventually going no-poo this dies down as everything normalizes. For a little while, it’ll be pretty oily though. What I did many years ago is I went from washing with shampoo daily to every other day, to once or twice a week, reducing until I hit zero. Wash with water daily though. I also recommend trying conditioner washing as an alternative to transition as well. The oil in your hair will bind to the oil in the conditioner and clean your hair, but it doesn’t strip it dry. That’ll probably help reduce how much your scalp needs to produce.

              Obviously it’s your hair. Everyone is different. This may not be something that can work for you, but you can’t know until you do some experiments. I wouldn’t assume it’s the case yet.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          2 months ago

          I’ve been no-poo for many years now. I’ve had barbers ask me what I do to keep my hair so nice.

          People shampoo to remove oils and then use conditioner to add oils. It doesn’t make sense, except once you view it through the lense of capitalism and them creating a need to sell you another product.

          I mostly just wash with water daily, and about once every week to a month, whenever it feels like it needs to be done, I do a conditioner wash where I just use conditioner to clean my hair.

          • EddoWagt@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 months ago

            The same is true for shaving gels/creams. I wasn’t really sure what the point of my shaving cream was, only that my skin started to itch the next day if I used it. So I tried to shave without it and lo and behold, it’s fine without. I notice no difference in shaving, but my skin doesn’t itch anymore and I use 1 less product

            • Cethin@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              2 months ago

              I shave with a double edge razor and don’t usually do a clean shave, just clean up the edges of my facial hair, but yeah I don’t usually use that stuff either. It’s mostly not required. When I do do a clean shave I do use shave soap, but it’s also nicer quality than the cream or gel you’d buy in a store, with lanolin, tallow, and/or other oils added. It’s slightly more effort but if I’m going through the effort of a clean shave anyway I like to enjoy it.

      • jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 months ago

        Same, although I’ve been going for longer than two years. Honestly, I cant really remember when I stopped use shampoo. But if I don’t shower for a day, it starts looking a little greasy. I have lots of straight fine hair, run the water and my fingers through it rigorously in the shower, and then I come out, scrunch it with the towel (dont rub, it will break the hair fibers) and then air dry. Get compliments on my hair all the time.

        As for smell, it just smells like hair. It can get slightly more pungent if I dont shower, but otherwise it just smells like me. Every once in a while I ask my full-poo GF to check if my hair smells because my own noseblindness, and she hasn’t told me to go shower yet.

        Definitely when you go from poo to no-poo, your hair is extra greasy. I don’t know the science behind it, but it seems to over produce oils and takes a couple weeks to normalize. During that period I was showering once in the morning and once at night, again running my fingers and water through my hair for ~2-3 minutes straight. After a while my hair didnt get so greasy.

        When I use soap or shampoo, my hair loses all of its body and shine doesn’t go back to normal for a day or so.

        I imagine for some people this works, but for others it doesn’t. I do feel a little weird when people ask me what my “secret” is and I’m literally like “yeah just don’t wash it lol”

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          I don’t know the science behind it, but it seems to over produce oils and takes a couple weeks to normalize. During that period I was showering once in the morning and once at night, again running my fingers and water through my hair for ~2-3 minutes straight. After a while my hair didnt get so greasy.

          i think it might just be that it “feels” greasy, as you move from using shampoo, to not, but as you move from not using shampoo to using shampoo, you’ll notice how dry your hair is after using it, and if you condition you’ll notice how “greasy” it is as well.

    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      2 months ago

      If you do not apply some sort of (proven) cleaning agent to your hair on a reasonably frequent basis, i dont care how in touch with nature and your primal self you are, you stink. If you dont want to deal with the maintenance cut it off, rocking the wrecking ball aesthetic is pretty great actually.

      • Lowpast@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        2 months ago

        The no-poo (no shampoo) movement is very real and definitely works for many people (dependant on hair type and oil secretions). Basically, once you stop washing away your natural oils daily, the production normalizes and then a regular rinse with water and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.

        I’ve met them, I was one, I know them. You wouldn’t know unless they told you.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          2 months ago

          and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.

          i.e. some sort of (proven) cleaning agent

              • DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                11
                ·
                2 months ago

                Uhm, no? That’s quite a leap you made there.

                For a normal human with no health problems affecting their oil production/smell, if you aren’t using shampoo/conditioner to constantly strip the oils from your hair, you very quickly stop overproducing oil.

                Bedsheets and pillows should still be washed regularly, since they definitely get covered in excess skin oils/grime/etc.

                But as long as you are caring for your hair in other ways like brushing daily and keeping it away from food/grease/mud/etc, using soap isn’t necessary unless you actually soil it - rinsing is enough to get rid of sweat buildup.

                Obviously, if you are working something like a trade job, its not possible to avoid debris, grime and other things and you need to wash your hair more, but an office job? Retail? Just brush and rinse regularly, and your hair will smell and look just fine.

              • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                not washing sheets is bad because they collect and hold body oils. Like your hair if you don’t wash it either.

                Which is why most people here are saying to wash your hair regularly…

                Likewise, you probably don’t need super aggressive detergent to clean your sheets, you could probably just get away with using steam alone, though you might want some detergent or surfactant for obvious reasons.

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              Okay, but it’s important for everyone elseto know that they aren’t going years without using a cleaning agent like wild animals.

              You ever smell an animal’s fur? It’s not great.

              • DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                2 months ago

                If you are brushing them often, feeding them good food, and not letting your dog roll in everything, they smell a lot better.

                That being said, animals in general do have stronger smelling oils than humans - often for some evolutionarily advantageous reasons.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          2 months ago

          The only people saying you should use shampoo daily are the shampoo makers. Most people can get away with once a week.

        • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          You can also clean your hair with conditioner or even rose water in between instead of soaps or vinegar. See the curlygirl subreddit for details about safer hair products that won’t mess up curl patterns

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        i think you might be confusing the idea of “artifical smells” with “natural human scent” where as humans normally smell like “nothing”

        as a chronic non scented user, because i hate smelling like things, i would annoy the shit out of you.

        If you dont want to deal with the maintenance cut it off

        this isn’t even remotely true, you still have to brush it, tie it off, and wash it out properly, all of which takes a lot of time. You can’t not do that.

        Literally the only reason i ever stink is because my clothes aren’t clean (i sweat like a motherfucker) or i genuinely just haven’t showered in like a week.

        • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          i have a very sensitive nose, and let me tell you i have not met a single person who says of themselves they don’t smell and actually don’t, they absolutely do. We are just used to our own and dont register it unless it gets intense.

          I’m not saying you should bathe in perfume or obsessively rinse your scalp with bleach, just that if people go several days without using soap on themselves I 100% always smell them. For hair it isn’t much different.

          • Bob@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            I have a very sensitive nose too, described as that of a dog by my sister, and it’s not that people not using shampoo smell worse, it’s that they smell of sebum and pheromones and all that stuff, which I don’t mind. I smell more like an animal, and I love animals.

            A few years ago I had to stay inside a lot, so I tried showering without soap on my body too, and it does seem to work better for longer than using soap, but it’s less convenient and sort of less reliable I find, so I use soap again on the three key areas. My hair though, I just use water to wash. My girlfriend tried to argue with me once that I needed shampoo and she just looked it up briefly and said “I was wrong!”

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            are you talking about scented or scentless soap? You’re probably just smelling the soap itself.

            There is also a difference between “smells just a tinge bit stinky” and “i can smell you from here dog” if it’s the former it probably doesn’t make the cut as “stank”

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    2 months ago

    you guys know that you don’t have to shampoo and wash your hair right? It’s really not that bad.

    As long as you shower regularly and properly wash it it’s literally fine.

    If you don’t believe me try it.

    • Fades@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Hair is actually very much not the same from person to person, let alone race to race.

      As long as you shower regularly and properly wash it it’s literally fine.

      this statement alone is generic (and thus problematic when you try and apply it to all humans). What does regularly mean here? Every day? Every few days? Does this arbitrary regularity match a black person with curly hair vs a white person with straight hair? etc.

      It’s almost like a one-size-fits-all when it comes to health isn’t a great idea

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        Hair is actually very much not the same from person to person, let alone race to race.

        i mean obviously, but don’t forget that we also literally evolved without the existence of shampoo and conditioner, and showers. So we’re probably fine without it.

        this statement alone is generic (and thus problematic when you try and apply it to all humans). What does regularly mean here? Every day? Every few days? Does this arbitrary regularity match a black person with curly hair vs a white person with straight hair? etc.

        I don’t know, how often do you shower? Most people shower daily, some people shower less frequently than that, very few people shower more infrequently than that outside of just having bad hygiene, unless we’re not counting baths for some reason.

        There’s a reason it’s a generic statement, i can’t prescribe my highly irregular and variable shower schedule to the average person as it’s probably not socially acceptable, but i also don’t go outside, so.

        I feel like most people can sort of like… Figure it out themselves? Seems like a reasonable assumption to me when it comes to personal hygiene.

        It’s almost like a one-size-fits-all when it comes to health isn’t a great idea

        yeah… That’s why i said go try it?

      • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        it is not hard to understand. wash your ass, wash all your bits. this does apply very broadly to humans. i don’t care who you are, your skin is an organ and it’s doing weird stuff.

    • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      I have tried, and my hair gets super greasy and a bit smelly if I don’t wash it every once in a while. And the conditioner is mostly just to keep it from getting frizzy after I’ve slept on it all night.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        yeah, it’s dependent on the individual, most people just excessively use that shit every day.

        The overnight frizz is a nightmare, but i just live with it, my hair is naturally messy anyway so it’s not getting much better even if i did lmao.

    • cashsky@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      My scalp gets itchy if I don’t shampoo at least once a week. Also if you have sweaty scalp you are gonna have a lot more oil build up that can collect dirt, grime and dead skin.

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    2 months ago

    you want to polish up a cat, brush him. My boy Harry would shine up so bright after a good brush. My current girl Izzy is kinda frizzy anyway but she’ll take a satin finish.