• crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org
    93·
    2 months ago

    Sorry to anyone living in the fascist dictatorship that is the US. Its clear that youve lost your democracy.

    Also sorry for all of the innocent civilians living in Iran which are about to go through hell thanks to Israel running off and crying to the US

    • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      38·
      2 months ago

      Sorry to anyone living in the fascist dictatorship that is the US. Its clear that youve lost your democracy.

      Its sad how much this sentence damages all democracys around the world. The fact these words have been made true is putins greatest victory. Putin aside, americans played a bigger role in giving up their own liberty. That is even more disgusting.

      • crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org
        16·
        2 months ago

        Honestly though, despite all the protections put in place, it has taken just one person with no morals to ignore them all and as long as he and his cronies(lets not give him too much credit) stacked the other branches with his supporters he has been able to do whatever he wanted and its been very difficult to stop or reverse the damage.

        Its quite shocking how much someone can hate a country whilst being in charge of it.

        • Capt. Wolf@lemmy.world
          30·
          2 months ago

          No… It didn’t just take one person…

          It took years of planning, a carefully chosen selection supreme court justices and appointed individuals, a ton of media cooperation, billions of dollars, and half a voting population of gaslit idiots.

          Don’t chalk this up to just Trump… At least half the nation is culpable in its own destruction.

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    69·
    2 months ago

    No, the Americans need to be consistently reminded of what their government is doing so that there’s at least the slightest chance they’ll put a stop to it. They don’t get to ignore the problem, it’s their job to fix it. They are not babies to be coddled.

    • uuldika@lemmy.ml
      52·
      2 months ago

      I have no clue what to do. I’m American. I’m trans. I voted for Harris. I live in a blue state. I’ve gone to protests. I’ve talked to state senators about legislation. I’ve canvassed. I’ve talked to Trump supporters and tried to get them to change their minds.

      it all feels totally useless. nothing I’ve done has had any effect. my own mom voted for Trump three times. it’s like being chained to an anvil and thrown overboard. I’m swimming but I’m still drowning.

      • bier@feddit.nl
        31·
        2 months ago

        You do know what to do and you are doing it! It’s not going to magically solve everything but you are doing more than most people.

      • XenGi@feddit.orgEnglish
        12·
        2 months ago

        Continue doing exactly that and convince others to do the same. It’s a slow process but the only way to fix things.

      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        1 month ago

        As another trans person, I say the best thing to do now may be to avoid the typical liberal “protest and vote” advice. Protesting simply isn’t as effective as it used to be, and voting should not be the foundation of your political activities. Voting is useful, but especially in a firmly blue or state, it’s mostly a symbolic gesture.

        There are trans people in your local area who are being hurt by this administration. Forget protesting. Focus on helping the actual material needs of the community. Every blue state currently has trans refugees coming into them. Often these are young adults showing up with few resources, often ending up homeless. There’s likely a population of homeless trans kids in your own community. These are the people you should be focusing on helping right now. Join a local trans support group to help out your brothers, sisters, and siblings. If an organization doesn’t exist, start one. Things to focus on:

        • Housing and access to housing

        • Job assistance.

        • Food and other essentials (one group in my area runs a trans specific food bank, as many trans folks have had bad experiences with church-run food pantries.

        • Medical assistance. Provide recommendations to local providers. Educate people on safe DIY use. If there are local HRT homebrewers in your area, help organize distribution and mutual aid.

        *Traditional gender support groups for newly transitioning folks.

        • General mutual aid and emergency assistance.

        Honestly, for trans people, it’s completely valid to just laser focus on the material needs of our own community right now. We’re being targeted by an organized campaign of state persecution. There’s hundreds of thousands of us that are internally displaced refugees within the borders of the US. There’s a lot of people hurting, and a lot of people in need. Protest if you want, but personally, I’ve found focusing on direct material needs and mutual aid to be a much more productive and rewarding path. The Trump regime is trying to destroy us. Simply helping your brothers, sisters, and siblings is an act of political resistance and defiance.

        Your goal is not to bring down the Trump regime. That is not your responsibility. For those most targeted, simply surviving these years is your primary act of resistance. Take care of yourself, and take care of your brothers, sisters, and siblings. That is how I as a trans person have found meaning in this time. I voted, but that was only symbolic. And I’m not currently participating in protests. I’m focusing on actually directly helping people instead. Survival is resistance.

    • Triple Iris@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      We are. There are protests throughout the country every day that the media is either ignoring, or painting as “riots.”

  • pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works
    60·
    2 months ago

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a video that Trump called him after the strikes: “It was a very warm conversation, very emotional.” Speaking in Hebrew, he called Trump a friend of Israel like no one before him.

    https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-war-updates#00000197-9582-d77f-a797-ffaf39a20000

    Thanks guys, real glad we didn’t vote for that evil fascist Harris and paved the way for Mr. No New Wars…

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Has Kamala come out yet to denounce a single one of Trump’s Israel policies? Unlike a lot of other Democratic lawmakers, she has yet to publicly condemn the strike on Iran. From what evidence we can actually observe, it seems she supports the current strike. Or at least she doesn’t oppose it. There’s little reason to think she wouldn’t have ordered the exact same type of strike Trump just did. She would spin it as “being the tough cop on the international scene.”

      • pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        2 months ago

        Harris has been for the most part quiet about almost all of his policies so far. I can’t claim to know her reasons but if I had to speculate it’s probably an attempt to save face and not be seen as a sore loser. I’m not a Harris worshipper but I believe whole heartedly that she was the clear “less bad” option. I genuinely cannot comprehend disagreement with that given we’re only 6 months into this administration and we’ve already seen massive international and domestic upheaval and hundreds of thousands of people negatively affected by deviation from typical conduct. For instance, do you think Harris and the Democrats would be pursuing Medicaid and SNAP cuts if they had won instead?

        There’s little reason to think she wouldn’t have ordered the exact same type of strike Trump just did. She would spin it as “being the tough cop on the international scene.”

        What’s your basis for this statement? My basis for believing that she would not do this is the record of her recent Democratic presidential precedessors. Obama and Biden’s Iran policies were largely characterized by attempts to deescalate tensions and move towards more normal relations. Of course, that is difficult when allyship with Israel is a cornerstone of US Middle East strategy, but they went about it in markedly different ways than Trump did in his first term and what he’s doing now.

        • smol_beans@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          Harris talked a lot about her unwaivering support for Israel and how Iran was our biggest enemy. Plus her dnc speech was VERY hawkish

  • katze@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    55·
    2 months ago

    Bombs are falling in the Middle East, but it is Americans who are in a nightmare? Lol.

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
    38·
    2 months ago

    distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring

    I assure you the nightmare is being experienced more acutely and directly by the people being actively bombed.

  • Zenith@lemm.ee
    32·
    1 month ago

    I think being so fucking desperate to be distracted is actually our primary problem as a country. Stop avoiding reality, it’s time to grow up

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
    27·
    2 months ago

    What’s super weird is that it resembles the war in Iraq but dumber.

    After 9/11 Americans were out for blood, for revenge.

    This time they were out for blood, democrat blood. Revenge for… being told to stay inside.

    I guess every 20 years they realize they hate each other so they outsource the violence?

    America is truly that neighbour which has constant domestic drama that the rest of the neighbourhood has to put up with constantly cause they are too nice to shun said neighbour.

  • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    2 months ago

    I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.

    I really hope the protest/non voters are happy with the outcome they chose. I can’t wait to hear them tell me that Harris would have done this too! Anything to justify intentionally causing the suffering of more people…

    • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it
      9·
      2 months ago

      Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that’s what US presidents do. Anyway, keep on blaming voters instead of holding the party accountable for its mistakes.

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        2 months ago

        “Don’t blame the voters who elected the president” is the sort of argument I’d expect from someone intentionally ignoring that he bombed nuclear sites.

        BoTh SiDeS arguments are stupid and people who make them should be ignored. Like I said, anything to justify your bad choice.

        • Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9·
          2 months ago

          Both sides arguments are actually pretty enlightened. You can have criticisms of both candidates and vote for harm reduction. If anything the inability to criticize both sides for where they are the same is the same type of belligerent as MAGA. Harris running on building a fucking wall was a fucking disgrace.

          But fuck not blaming voters for their stupid fucking decisions and fuck the sham of a democracy the US electoral system is. FPTP and WTA elections in the modern age are a fucking disgrace as well as no equal representation and voting with money.

        • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it
          6·
          2 months ago

          I didn’t make a choice. I don’t live in the US. But my country is strewn with US military bases and it wasn’t Trump who put them there.

          Trump is simply more ignorant about how a US president should bomb the shit out of Middle Eastern countries, but don’t act like he invented anything.

          And yes, on some things “both sides suck” because the US have been terrorizing other countries for decades.

          They bring desolation and have the gall of calling it peace.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              1·
              2 months ago

              Voting doesn’t mean shit. I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga. Fuck it. Fight or get out. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to lick your copmommy’s boots.

              If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

              • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                3·
                2 months ago

                I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga

                then don’t.

                Take your own advice and go fight or get out or whatever. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to do whatever it is you think they should be doing for you and go do the thing yourself.

                If fighting fasch were so important, you wouldn’t be indoors on lemmy telling people to leave.

              • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                2 months ago

                If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

                Any compromise other than voting for the Democrats, you mean. Clearly that’s a compromise too far for plenty here.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  Or just any policy compromise. Don’t suck so much billionaire dick, 20% less enthusiasm with the genocide, do something about the cops, whatever. I don’t need everything.

          • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            I’m not the one who helped let a Nazi win. I’m doing what I can, but I can’t change things with citizens who ignore how the system works and choose to sit out and let this shit happen.

          • TwentySeven@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 month ago

            You’re the goddamn idiot if you thought abstaining from voting would help anything. Hope you’re proud of yourself shithead

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          2 months ago

          You mean the people getting gassed and beaten and locked in cages fighting these bastards?

          Who’ve been getting shot and stabbed and run over by them in street fights for a decade or more?

          Yeah. Couldn’t be asked to lift a finger

          • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            That’s not ‘the least you can do’ by any means, but good try at a lazy gotcha to someone who has been tear gassed at these kinds of protests for years.

            Yes, voting is the least you can do. Protesting is a very good tactic, but choosing to disregard political opportunities tells me you’re not really worth listening to.

            Have fun playing computer warrior, kid, I’m tired of you.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          1·
          1 month ago

          It’s literally the least you can do, less than literally anything else, and doing the least possible is not good enough.

          You don’t get to wash your hands because you voted for Kodos. Has Harris even come out against bombing Iran?

  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
    27·
    2 months ago

    I am wondering when Americans are finally going to come to the inevitable conclusion that conservatives have to be utterly destroyed by any means necessary in the most extreme prejudicial manner possible. These people are absolute pure f****** evil.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
      9·
      1 month ago

      First we need to endlessly debate whether or not Kamala Harris would’ve done the same thing. Since we can never know we can all just assume posting shitty memes is more important than voting. We’ll tell each other it’s late stage capitalism so we can feel smart for doing nothing because it’s all going to collapse anyway, nothing we can do! Committed to being uncommitted! Apathy to the end!

    • Makhno@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 months ago

      Liberals dont want change. Until the left accepts that libs gotta go in the ground too, nothing will happen.

      • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        I agree, but the enablers arent as big of a problem as the perps right now. I feel like they would fall in line pretty quickly upon seeing the consequences of their actions.

    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 month ago

      The people who vote conservative will probably never come to that conclusion.

      We have to let the older generations die off until there isn’t enough support or physically stop them from voting to stop the conservative support.

      Maybe starting a third party that genuinely wants to disrupt the status quo would fix some stuff.

      • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 month ago

        Lets get something REAALLY FUGHIN STRAIGHT:

        Conservatism DOES NOT DIE OFF.

        AAAALLLLLL of the radical fascist right wing Nazi pundits and influencers are Millennials and younger, with a few GenXers scattered about.

        Everyone SWORE that conservatism would die off with the Boomers, but that was 15 years ago. Its not gonna happen.

        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 month ago

          Every new generation votes more progressive leaning than the last.

          So once the boomers are all gone, the Republican Party loses a shit load of control.

          Regressives have tried to appeal to the incels their ideology creates, but it isn’t enough to outpace the above trends.

          • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 month ago

            A law was passed 30 years ago to ensure that the politically motivated only hear one ideology. The platforms have changed since then but the same people are in control of the messaging and censorship.

      • winky_lem@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        1 month ago

        3rd party…yes! Possible, not really. The two parties have a spot on the ballot, built in, automatically given. All others have to jump through each state’s requirements to get on the state ballot. The most effective at this lately is the libertarian party. In the election before last, Jo Jorgenson was on the ballot in all 50, GO JO! Sadly, her media coverage was paltry at best. Most Americans didn’t even know she was a realistic option. Finally, most Americans think that a vote for a 3rd party increases the chance of their less desirable major party winning. What they fail to realize is that, red or blue, the boot on your neck is the same boot, different shine.

  • ssɐqɯnᗡ@quokk.auEnglish
    21·
    2 months ago

    Careful there, we all got a lot of “America invades middle eastern country” memes, there’s a surprising amount of themes to choose from.

  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
    20·
    2 months ago

    Hey now. We didn’t start THIS war. Israel did. We just immediately rubbed one out and then gleefully joined in.

    So… most of the old memes will probably still work.