In the past week or so, the courts have begun to try to set some boundaries on the Musk–Miller–Trump administration’s early blitz of recklessness.
. . .
This judicial review provides at least a small reprieve, hope that some of the administration’s most destructive impulses will be stopped. Or at least pared back. But even with the courts stepping up, and even with the reality of the administration’s ineptitude sinking in, this early Musk–Miller–Trump blitz remains very—maybe irreparably—damaging. Of course, there are a lot of moles to whack: the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau are being dismantled at an alarming rate, and the court system is not known for being nimble. The administration is betting, perhaps rightly, that at least some of its thoughtless, lawless efforts will slip through the cracks.
But even if the courts caught them all—and even if every court facing each lawless escapade said, “Nope, that’s not a thing”—still the entire process would be doing serious damage to our institutions. Think of it as someone spoofing your identity and going on a shopping spree with your credit cards. Even if the goon gets caught, you still have to go store by store to argue that the fraudulent purchase wasn’t legitimate and hope the debt is forgiven. And all the while, perhaps long after all the debts are dealt with, the torrent of uncertainty kills your credit score.
Ya know how about 2/3rds of the internet population is now on at least 1 watchlist because of supporting Mangione. The second we start seeing vulnerable citizens having their medicare/medicaid/food stamps/gov housing/anything I missed that our taxes pay for to keep people from dying in a ditch during a snow storm/benefits actually cut. You know, like the second 2 small children citizens freeze to death because of funding cuts while the rich refuse to pay their fair share. I say we all, in unison, do something so illegal it requires a legal response, but since so many of us are doing it they won’t be able to pick out anyone to single out for certain so we can all keep doing it as they freak out and go after whomever they feel is vulnerable. Like who’s the one person it’s illegal to threaten to kill? What would happen if 75million of us did it at 2:30 on a Friday afternoon? Pure, unadulterated chaos. Just if some kind of “threat protest” were to take place because of small children dying while rich fucks slept in late, and now a bill for more benefit cuts is being considered, you yourself should absolutely be prepared to be targeted as a ring leader because they will target the weakest and try to use them as a scape goat, I can almost guarantee the current Reich’s SS wouldn’t have the balls to knock on the door of someone that lifts 80lbs of dry cement with 1 hand and is documented as “should already be dead we don’t know what the fuck.” I could be wrong, and if I am, nothing would make me happier than sum small nut little man that everyone thinks is a badass finally going toe to toe with me… But I have no doubt they would pick on a highschooler, or housewife, or a software engineer. So be ware of how they view you before you stand up bravely, you don’t want to be the reason the cement beast goes on a rampage, you want to live to see the cement beast go on a rampage. Also, I’m not advocating for any actions at 2:30 on a Friday afternoon, but at the rate they are looking to “slash” benefits for the average Citizen, and frankly I’ve had everything taken from me already, I’m not on government benefits but my family is, and I’m done having everything taken. I’m Jim Carrey and this is fun with Dick and Jane - “I got the lawn back”. Take again, and I will take whatever I can, and I’ve already seen how your little Piggy’s cow toe for me. I would too if I was weak like them.
He’ll ruin the gov like he ruined X
He’ll ruin the
govcountry like he ruined XFTFY
I actually do.
We’re entirely fucked.
We’re going to spend the rest of our lives witnessing the enshitification of this nation. Even if we completely turn this crash and burn around, we’ll then spend the rest of our lives watching things being slowly rebuilt as traitorous Republicans continue to obstruct.
I don’t think a lot of Americans are grasping exactly how hard we fucked ourselves by refusing to responsibly inform ourselves even to a minimal degree.
As someone currently living in Canada, the US is badly fucking up a lot of it’s international relations too. I’ve heard several people here say that even if if the US unfucks itself right away (which it won’t), it’s still going to be a long time before things will be right again.
You don’t go around threatening neighbours and allies like this and then expect to be able to just walk it back overnight.
USAID was, more than anything, a means of positive international relations. It was a 2 prong approach of foreign aid and foreign good will. The mid 1900s US made a lot of fucking enemies, and USAID was one very solid method of trying to overcome the damage wrought by our government.
And now TB supplies – that were already paid for – are rotting in warehouses (among many other issues). Not only will that harm people, it will harm our reputation, AND increase antibiotic resistant TB, which will in turn affect the rest of the world including the US itself.
And that’s only one piece of the very large clusterfuck.
Oh I know. I hate it because a) I love yall, Canadians, Danes, Germans opposed to the afd, etc. You’re our friends and neighbors and I’m horrified seeing people not treat you as such, but also b) we had a real good thing going and we’re never getting it back.
a purge could fix it all tomorrow.
As much as I agree, it will take things getting a lot worse before people do anything like that. A lot of the most heavily armed are the ones who voted for this. The pickup full of hillbillies are still in the denial phase. They still think things won’t affect them, or that it’ll be temporary. They are all for “those people” taking the brunt of the actions right now. They’ve convinced themselves that only the “removeds” are affected, and they aren’t.
It’s going to take a deep hit to their way of life for anything more than peaceful protests and voting advocacy (which definitely fucking vote) happens.
We entirely are. Our lifetimes in this country will never see another good day of it.
What I don’t understand is that no one is stopping this from happening. They’re all just letting it happen. Perhaps because they are afraid to lose their jobs but at what cost? I’ve lost all hope for this country and I wish to God I could move. Oh well.
you have to make leftists understand that the only answer is violence. we have to say this over and over until it finally clicks. the people are the last line of defense.
Did he really get rid of remote work for no reason?
To get people to quit, they’ve just started firing large swathes of people now though.
for no reason
Reason: Attrition
You don’t have to fire them if they quit.
You gut those departments and put the money into things that benefit tax cuts on the rich, or you hire friends and loyalists into those seats and pay them all the money to do nothing.
It’s a gift, Everything they’re doing is a different length of gift to make the rich richer.
Yup.
Americans literally just voted to gut what was left of the middle class.
Super, almost unbelievably, stupid society we live in.
When there’s a critical mass of hopeless people, they’ll be drafted, given a rifle, and marched somewhere with the full intention of never letting them return alive or otherwise.
Today children, we’ll learn about the great Canadian - American War of 2027.
Or as they know it in the US the American - Canadian War
The U.S.A. is done. Such sabotage by Trump, Musk and MAGA takes decades to recover from. 40 to 50 at least; rebuilding the civil service, amending all the laws back to normal, fixing the Supreme Court, probably needing Constitutional amendments. This easily echos for a hundred years.
I think your assessment is optimistic.
The idea that america was fine until MAGA sabotaged it is absurd and reductionist.
Slowly degrading since what Nixon?
If’s been being eroded for a long time, but just recently it’s become fragile enough to be unstoppable at any level.
Hasn’t it been thoroughly sabotaged by Reagan already? Not to say that Trump can’t do a fine job setting the rubble on fire, but i concur that the US has been a mess for quite some time.
Do you not think 2016 America was better than America today?
Not particularly. Especially if you are brown.
I mean, did we all forget Occupy happening in 2008? And the Obama admin sending in jackboots to clear everyone out, so profits can get back to shareholders?
In comparison to what we’re probably going to be left with for the rest of our lives, what we had before MAGA will seem like a fucking utopia.
Anyone who thinks the US, post 9/11 as utopia, by most any measure, is looking at things through Rose Colored Lenses.
Even if they get rid of pedo-Don, Fox will tell them everything that went wrong is because of Clinton and the woke and they will be like “YeAh dAMn woke-dei-sjw-blm dEsTroyIng ma cUntrY”.
It’s over. That’s the consequence of decades of under-educating their citizen and raw capitalism. The only question that remain is how much of the world down they will bring down with them.
Yup.
It will take decades of scraping and clawing things through Congress to get back what we’re going to lose in a few short years. Assuming our government is even recognizable by the end of this.
If you have the means, it may actually be time to make another country home. If you don’t, you need to come to terms that you will probably spend the rest of your life living in a declining nation where your rights are threatened.
We had their playbook with p2025 and did nothing. They started enacting it, and we still do nothing. We could have shock-and-awed them right back with prepared lawsuits and movements blow for blow, and nothing.
The DNC and their non-spoiler neoliberals are still getting their sweet sweet oligarch bribe checks, so all is right with the world as far as they’re concerned.
They’re literally more defensive about any actual leftwing movement to get them to defend the people from the murderous capitalists destroying us and the planet for short term profit.
We either need a populist to steal the DNC’s machine from them as they’re kicking and screaming like Trump did the RNC, make a 3rd party, the best option have a hot revolution starting with Wall Street, or accept this hell as we sleepwalk into oblivion.
Blue no matter who is rearranging deck chairs on a sinking ship. I voted for Harris out of some harm reduction, but the capitalists are the problem and own both parties. Republicans revel in the cruelty and are simply louder about it. Democrats will support your freedom to be LGBTQ… As you die in the gutter of poverty, exposure, and capital defense force brutality. Here have an affirmation ribbon to use as a blanket and/or snack in your cardboard box as they support the industry denying the claims for the nerve damage that made you lose your shitty subsistence job when your treatment would cut into their profit expectations.
Both parties support the “Freedom” of the rich to toss capital batteries they broke into the trash when they’re no longer of use to their bottom line. Freedom without social responsibility is a rampage.
This is not the Democrats fault. It is the fault of those that voted for Trump. The knew exactly what he was, and still voted for him. They wanted this.
I’m suspect of posts that blame Democrats, are these posts put up by paid shills?
WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS THE FAULT OF TRUMP, AND HIS MAGA FOLLOWERS!!!
Poor Democrats. They’re only a ragtag group of activists that are the largest political party outside of Asia with billions of dollars at their disposal! What leverage do they have? /s
The paid shills aren’t the only ones saying that D isn’t doing anything. D is saying they’re not doing anything. Critically reexamine your unquestioning loyalty and need to give them the guac guac at every turn.
This is not the Democrats fault.
No blame goes to the Dems at all?
None?
Not even any blame for running bad campaigns, with bad candidates? Three times in a row? No blame for relying on “Not Trump” as a campaign strategy? No blame for insisting the economy is grand, even though all the voters are saying otherwise?
Some. But it’s not equitable.
“You can lead a horse to water, but can’t make it drink.”
For months, people tried to warn others about p2025, and were ignored. For months, tried to warn others that tariffs would actually make the economy worse, but were ignored. For months, people warned others that Fuckface 45 would be worse for Gaza, but were ignored.
The fucking 3rd party / protest / non voters are also to blame.
Guess what, it’s the politicians job to get the horse’s head into the water. If they fail to do that they were either incompetent or didn’t work hard enough. You should go find Chuck Schumer’s words from the mid 2010s where he says he doesn’t mind losing blue collar votes.
For years, we were warning the Dems that they need to represent the working class, and they chose instead keep representing their campaign donors.
So, who is ar fault again?
You get the govt you deserve.
Please, before you suspect anybody of being a shill, read carefully what’s written. He described what the Democrats are doing. And you say it’s not the Democrats fault! What?
It’s apparently true: The people who voted for Trump are responsible for Trump being in power.
And nobody claims otherwise. But Trump becoming president has an economic backdrop that goes a long way back. It’s rooted in the neoliberal economic model that become popular in the 1960s and had taken over the whole world by the 2000s. It took the chains off of capitalism that workers united in Unions and parties had imposed on it. Because the old Social Democrat parties who people obviously trusted due to their history suddenly sided with the capitalists, everybody was caught on the wrong foot. Many fell for the lies that were peddled for why public services suddenly had to be privatised and made them their own fetish.
Since then a massive amount of wealth was being shifted to the capitalists while social services eroded. And now many people just feel completely left alone. Because they are. And they suddenly see the world as a place of dark forces, where everybody has to fight for themselves, where scamming people is a viable business model, where truth is a concept from some other time. Yeah, so some people say the Dems have their fair share in all this, because they sold out to the capitalists, thereby creating a feeding ground for fascists like Trump.
On the other hand OP was mostly saying how despicable the Dems are acting right now. So yeah.
Pelosi defends lawmaker stock trades, citing ‘free market’ https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775
The fascists are worse. I voted Harris with a funeral dirge in my heart out of harm reduction, but make no mistake, all we’ve been arguing for half a century is the rate of decline. A little slower under neoliberals, a little faster under Fascists.
NOTHING CAN IMPROVE until our government knocks our oligarchs down to size. Both parties are very well paid by the oligarchs to defend them from us. The oligarchs are running the asylum because both parties let them.
Republicans having no meaningful opposition on the shape and priorities of the economy for so long made them this bold. Every cycle in most of our lifetimes, both parties have been marching rightward. I fully expect next cycle for neoliberals to advocate “more humane” concentration camps in their never ending March to the new middle, already deep into fascist crazy town.
why even bother focusing on this? “it’s this guy’s fault!” ok. so what? it will be four years if we even get a chance to vote again. the only thing we should be talking about is resistance.
You got midterm elections coming up. Also local elections. One could argue that the success of R comes from the fact that they bid their time, slowly but surely spreading their fascist poison via local elections. The presidency isn’t everything!
The presidency isn’t everything!
if trump gets his way, it actually is. the time to think about how we’ll do it next time has past.
By the same logic, if trump had his way, what makes you think you’d be able to vote for a new president?
that’s exactly what i’m saying. the time to think about electoral politics has past. it’s time to think about [redacted].
The Democrats just want more gay, trans, PoC concentration camp guards.
Homeless camps are the new concentration camps.
We had their playbook with p2025 and did nothing.
Liberals ran out their strongest champions
- Chuck Schumer
- Richie Torries
- The Cheney Family
- The UK Labor Party campaign staff
- Ted Cruz’s former chief of staff at the Lincoln Project
- Some very reputable and trustworthy staffers from AIPAC
And spent over $1B of donor money in order to tell people that only
Joe BidenKamala Harris can Beat Trump, after a no-contest primary. A full year of campaigning. They brought Jeff Flake up as a surprise guest for the DNC!You can’t reasonably call that nothing. It felt like less than nothing.
Beltway Democrats are nothing if not out of touch. They’re the kind of people who would run a youth voting rally for Zoomers and then trot out Joan Baez as the special musical guest.
At least they brought war criminal Dick Cheney on board, that made sure they would be completely useless.
How dare they show they have support of both sides of the aisle!
When a fascist supports you, like Dick Cheney, you’re on the wrong side of history.
A truly idiotic idea.
Any democrat who is paying enough attention to vote doesn’t just not give a shit about the esteem of the right.
They revile those esteemed by the right.
Yeah gotta make sure the war criminals know Democrats are on their side…
We know. What we don’t know is why are all civil servants just rolling over, instead of applying simple sabotage.
It’s easy to volunteer other people, but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.
I hope they can do what they can to resist, but I also don’t believe this is on them either. If the former President in a position of power couldn’t put the brakes on this shit; if we as a society couldn’t put the brakes on this on November 5th… Well, my expectations are very low. Things will have to come crashing down hard until the apathetic and ignorant wake up, I suspect.
but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.
Most simple sabotage is doing things EXACTLY by the book… Civil servants often take shortcuts to expedite things. They should take ZERO shortcuts.
Elon toadie asks for a set of creds. Demand Toadie get all appropriate forms completed, first, and then demand documented procedure for obtaining those creds are followed TO THE LETTER. No rush jobs. No prodding the ticket holder for updates. Just exactly like the book says to do it.
Just an example.
This is called “work to rule” and it is one of the most classic kinds of industrial action, pretty much one step short of a strike.
It’s also one of my favorites.
It’s easy to volunteer other people, but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.
It also means risking their livelihood, which I expect in many cases is an even greater deterrent than an aversion to rule breaking.
How would sabotage help when destroying the government is Musk’s and Trump’s goal?
It slows them down. Which is what we can hope for, until people get a bit more organized into other forms of resistance.
Whose saying they are all rolling over?
Their actions? How else do websites vanish? Whiy aren’t we getting livetracks on Elon’s location, or his toadies? Where are the server crashes?
Lmao, so you are asking “where are the server crashes,” in the same statement acknowledging sites have been removed. How often do you see server crashes of things that have been deleted?
No, I mean crashes if the Whitehouse web sites… or breaking the auth systems for Trump officials… or delaying fleet vehicle reservations for motorcades so they come up short, or have to cancel…
The only way these things can happen so fast is by civil servants just doing what they are told.
I imagine a lot of people just don’t want to go to jail. Considering there’s substantial criminal penalties (for everyone that’s not a billionaire) to take out a website or anything else you mentioned - that’s my guess.
There are myriad ways to take something offline, which is easily plausible as an “oops” moment. There are also myriad tarpits to send requests to.
My old job, if I wanted to totally de-rail a project? I’d push it over to the project management office, and then to the infosec office. Almost guaranteed, the project would fail, because of those two tarpits.
Get a special request? Schedule a meeting for 4 business days out. Spend 1/3 of the meeting catching up and socializing. Spend 1/3 pre-planning the next meeting. Spend 1/3 laying out all the issues needing to be solved, and “circle back” when we get “scheduling lined up”…
And then it gets restored from backup 20 minutes later while you look incompetent to your peers and supervisors.
If you really want to take it down you need to be systematically deleting or corrupting backups for several months; then take it down.
That requires destruction of govt property (up to 20 years in jail).
The same reason most of us decline our ample opportunities for sabotage every day. Someone else should do it.
Well, that changes, the more people do it. And I am not going to brag here about what I’ve done, but at least once a day, I do something to put a wrench in a cog.
To add more context - I’m a federal employee who has received these Fork emails -
They always come out at night, usually ~ 8-9 pm Eastern. One came out on a Sunday night. So you show up for work the next morning and that’s what’s waiting for you. I’m convinced this is done on purpose, to fuck with us.
As Vought (perfect Bond villain name, right?) said:
“Put Them In Trauma”
They literally want to traumatize us. They hate us because for decades we’ve been the only ones to tell them no. No, Elon, you can’t fuck all kinds of shit up when you launch a spaceship. No, Elon, you can’t make the stock market go haywire because you were high and tweeted something stupid. No, Elon, you can’t make a deal with the Pentagon and then run to Putin and do something completely different.
Elon does not like to be told no, but Elon can’t go 5 minutes without acting like the entitled dipshit that he is, so here we are.
And so, ~ 2.5 million civil servants - scientists, healthcare researchers, USAID, engineers, doctors, etc etc, will feel his wrath because he can’t be told no.
I took a big pay cut for this job because I valued job security over money after growing up in a household where jobs were not guaranteed and my parents struggled. Finally I got there after trying for years, and now Elon has to throw a shit fit.
But it’s not about me - I’ll be ok, but many others won’t. And we won’t get it back without a lot of work, work that I’m not sure that we, as a country, are going to be willing to do. The brain drain and decades of knowledge capture will be lost forever. And that’s by design - now we can all go work for contractors with fewer benefits and no job security and help Elon to make even more money.
One of the Fork emails taunted us by saying that we should be happy to leave our low productivity jobs in government so that we could go work high productivity jobs in the private sector. (So funny!) I know that’s bullshit, but also I’m old enough to not let 4chan incels trigger me that easily.
I do worry about my younger/newer coworkers though, whose heads are spinning. So, I try to help them. I’m educating them about the union and hopefully giving them the tools to get through this and deal with what comes after in the best way possible, whatever that may be.
So the next time you have to go to some annoying government place with a long line and you’re tired and hungry and frustrated, please try to remember that whoever you end up coming face to face with may have just gotten another email trolling them and telling them what a piece of shit they are and they should resign from their jobs. Just give them some grace. Be kind.
This is a great resource, and I hope it helps a lot of people.
My agency, and my job specifically, must be done right or people could get hurt. So things like renaming files or purposefully scheduling meeting conflicts aren’t options. I need to find specific bits of technical information to ensure a design is safe. I need to have meetings for safety reviews and make sure there isn’t anything that my group missed that could end up hurting someone.
I’m not saying these won’t be helpful to us in the future, if my agency’s current mission were to change in some way, but right now it’s the same as it was during the last administration. I will keep it in my back pocket though for when I feel it’s necessary.
Thank you!
Solidarity.
This site is an amazing start! Glad it exists right now.
Have you been passing around copies of “Simple Sabotage” and applying those tactics?
If no, why not?
Good
I’m a federal employee. You have no idea the stress my family and I have been dealing with since that motherfucker swore in.
A relative of mine is a state employee… he had two reports that’d applied for transfer to the equivalent federal departments… and those two have now withdrawn their requests.
I wish you the best of luck and I thank you for your contribution to public well being.
They wouldn’t have been hired anyway. We had people who were supposed to start on Monday, January 27th. On Thursday the 23rd, their offers were rescinded and we were told they wouldn’t be starting. I can only imagine. Of course they had already quit their previous job. Now what the fuck are they doing?
He didn’t swear in. Elon just showed up.
No, he bought his way in and probably holds dirt over Trump. This wasn’t random chance.
Dirt? Guy is a convicted felon, says and does monstrous things openly, and denies things he just did on video the day before. He promoted a violent attack on his own government. He is dirt, he lives dirt. Unless it’s a video of him literally beheading dozens of kittens, I can’t imagine it would give him any leverage. Not even sure if that would either sadly.
The one thing Trump seems afraid of is Epstein related dirt.
That’s likely the dirt Musk holds.
The dirt is all public. Nobody cared.
The scariest thing is that even if Musk or Trump were to film and upload themselves ritualistically murdering kittens, their followers would call it fake AI. There’d be nothing anyone could do or say to convince them otherwise, short of them witnessing the slaughter in-person with their own eyes (and even that might not do it.)
There’s no way that the release of so much generative AI last year, just before this election, was a coincidence. Fascists got this shiny new tool for denying reality, and now they’re free to dismiss photos and videos without question or repercussion.
Trump’s comment about Elon who “knows those computers very well” relating to voting machines makes me think that all the other crimes he did before are small fries comparitively to what Elon has on him/what Trump owes Elon.
Trump allowing himself to be openly removeded by Elon repeatedly is not something that he would just let happen without something big going on behind the scenes. Trump is a massive narcissist, and he is not afraid to tell people to fuck off normally if they steal his spotlight or slightly disagree with him. Just look at his last administration for plenty of examples.
and probably holds dirt over Trump.
Possibly that Trump wasn’t legally elected and Elmo rigged the election for him. It would explain Trump’s servile attitude in the oval office earlier. Elmo’s fucking kid basically told Trump to STFU.
Parkrose Permaculture did an excellent video on that press conference and the dark implications of the child’s words. Jordan Lund removed my comment from politics because videos aren’t allowed. I’m beginning to wonder if this is denial or active aid.
Everyone holds dirt on Trump. That man hasn’t had a metaphorical shower in his life.
I don’t live in the US, but I did want to just say that as an outsider I appreciate the effort you are putting in, especially given the hostile working environment.
Good luck homie
Not personally and directly, no, but broadly, yes - I do know the irreversible damage they’re doing.
And here’s the real key to it all - none of it is accidental. The damage is the point.
Their goal is actually very simple - it’s to utterly destroy every aspect of the government that benefits the common people or inconveniences the wealthiest few, in order to convert it explicitly and entirely into a mechanism for protecting and expanding the privilege of the wealthiest few at the expense of everyone else.
They are all acolyte of the Curtis Yarvin cult. Scumbags all of them
And they announced it and fully laid out a plan ahead of time. This should come as a surprise to no one who is literate.
The problem is Trump voters aren’t literate.
And there are a lot of them.
It burns my ass that some folks actually bought the whole “Trump doesn’t support Project 2025” bullshit. I cannot imagine being such a gullible, credulous moron.
Not just support it, but that he never even heard of it. (Then goes on to say that he doesn’t agree with it lol)
Majority of the population supports it. Anything else is pure cope.
Um no. Trump was elected by something like 32% of the population.
That is hardly the majority. It’s a vocal minority of assholes who reliably vote.
That would be the lie they are pushing. He doesn’t “have a mandate” and a minority group of the placrual population votes for this.
No, the majority of the voting population accepted Trump’s lies as truth. That doesn’t mean they support what’s happening, it means they were credulous enough to believe that it wouldn’t happen.
Wallowing in mistruths about your fellow voters may feel good, in a righteous anger sort of way, but it will blind you to the real opportunities for resistance that exist and can be exploited if enough people try.
They want you to be demoralized. Why are you doing their work for them?
To them Trump is the resistance dummy
With 96% of the vote in, Trump has, according to the Associated Press, 49.97% to Vice President Harris’ 48.36%, or 76.9 million votes to 74.4 million.
Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
Most of the country shifted to support Trump, even in safe blue states most people shifted right:
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/21/nx-s1-5198616/2024-presidential-election-results-republican-shift
I’m sorry but please stop spreading copium misinfo
Google greg palast 2024 election and read his information on voter suppression.
You’re only talking about the votes that were counted. There were millions of people that voted and had their ballots rejected due to right wing shenanigans.
Look up vote challening in Georgia in partcular.
This is “voter fraud” and “stop the count” and “count them all” tier copium. Why do I need to Google some conspiracy theory of yours when I have the facts right here?
Vast majority of Americans supported Project 2025, supported trump and voted for him. Do you have any actual information to dispute these facts?
79 is a vast majority of 340?
I’m not demoralised, I just don’t need copium.
Let’s assume you’re correct, and you got that fact from an actual survey and statistical analysis that has undergone peer-review. It really doesn’t come as a surprise that there are masses of people cheering on policies that work against their own interests.
The American public education system is a disaster that can barely teach basic adulting, let alone critical thinking or identifying untrustworthy reporting. Add in how most of the past century has been nonstop propaganda about how showing compassion to anyone outside your family is socialism, and socialism is communism, and communism is the antichrist. Now, throw in a heaping dose of social media and viral misinformation where the loudest person making the most emotionally reactive claims gets the most attention and positive reinforcement.
It’s really no wonder that a majority of people are metaphorically, ritualisticly throwing gasoline onto a tire fire while complaining about the toxic fumes that surround them. They literally lack the skills to know any better.
Keeping in mind it’s a majority of the voting population. Millions sat out that didn’t in 2020. Millions more don’t show up consistently because they’ve been systematically conditioned into apathy or forced to jump through hoops they can’t prepare for like voter id laws or polling stations being shut down. Same issue - they lack the media literacy or just reading comprehension in general at times.
If they wanted to reduce spending in a meaningful way, they would at least look at the defense spending
Working as a federal employee comes with a set of golden handcuffs. You trade in a decent salary for retirement at the end. Firing people, or even asking them to leave for less than 10 months salary (maybe) is a huge Fuck You to those who have already sacrificed years of time. When you started your career- you couldn’t possibly predict something like a Trump train coming along to piss all over your life’s plans.
Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?
Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?
People with enough money saved to outlast shitshows, who also intend to accept bribes.
Actually, a Trump type person has been predicted for the last 25 years. The rise of populism was evident clearly for all to see in 2007, and only got stronger.
35 years. Look up Some More News’s video from 2020 about how 80s and 90s pop culture tried to warn us about the absurdity of a Trump presidency and how important it is to not let people like that in power.
Yeah, this along with so many other things they have already done are going to cost us a shit load of tax dollars. We’re going to have to pay market rates or above or offer sign on bonuses to get anyone willing to work for the fed again.
Who the fuck, with any level of competence, would ever want to apply for a federal position after seeing this shit show?
That’s the point. Musk et. al. are foreign assets with orders to weaken NATO and the US at all costs. They are successfully accomplishing their orders. And once the US’s economy has spiraled and collapsed, the USD will no longer be a trusted currency used for global trade. Then it’s BRIC’s time to shine. That’s their dream, at least.
Musk is his own asset. He doesn’t need to be a foreign one to fuck shit up, that’s just a side business for him
People are still thinking in 20th century. The 21st century tech oligarchs are more powerful than nations. They control digital infrastructure. The ones who own social platforms can incite civil unrest. They control the algorithmic knobs of the population.
It’s literally in your face how obvious it is. Musk has Trump cowering at the Resolute desk. The most powerful seat in the world.
I think people must be in denial. Trying to justify with some other reasonings other than what is. Musk isn’t an asset. It isn’t a side business. He’s taken over the world superpower. Nation states aren’t the highest theater anymore. It’s tech oligarchs.
The 21st century tech oligarchs are more powerful than nations.
No, they aren’t. At least not most nations.
Unless a 21st century tech oligarch is able to pinpoint their enemy’s position to within 10m, and send a Drone Strike to take them out? Then no.
Because right now, Trump could rid us all of Elon, should he choose, with merely an order.
Do you know about Curtis Yarvin and the so-called “network state” plan they are in the late stages of realizing? I don’t think BRICS is the endgame of the tech oligarchy.
How are they going to get past the fact that there are half a dozen currencies better position to subsume the dollar than any of theirs?
Fools who think Daddy will be proud of them?
It’s crazy how bad it’s going to get in the next few months. I work for a branch in the fed that’s almost all remote work, about 10 out of 150 or so are in person including myself. I know I’ll be safe, but my team? Section? Branch? All screwed. Then what’s left, for me to be swallowed by a RIF? The deal was tempting because of the threat behind your inaction likely not mattering.
Hoping it cools off soon. It’s hard to sleep lately.
It double sucks because I just got my spouse into a federal job (she got herself in, but I provided her resources, resume building, etc, of course.) But now since she’s considered probationary and a temporary hire? She might be let go and swallowed into regret.
What’s annoying is the US cable/social media incessantly jumps right to the Trump/Musk framing of things.
The US AID shutdown has led to food aid stuck at ports as populations that rely on it starve.
A report on Monday from Paul Martin, the USAid inspector general, found that close to half a billion dollars’ worth of food was rotting because of confusion surrounding Mr Trump’s freeze last month.
How many americans have heard about the consequences of Trump’s actions? 1%? How many have heard about Elon’s vague and baseless claims that US AID is a big fraud? It seems every Republican I know has heard that.
The answer, of course, is for the remaining USAID staff to just ignore conflicting instructions and just give the food away. Federal workers need to understand that the job they have is not secure whether they obey or not.
While I agree that would be ideal, I suspect a lot of the services that let them process that food out to who needs it are unavailable.
The federal workers that I know are doing everything they can to get everything that’s been spoken for out to the recipients ASAP. If food is rotting, I suspect it’s because it can’t be moved.
