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Asked my nephew who joined the Marines about this. He said this is a “hot tray”. Basically just leftovers for the people that couldn’t make it to meal time for various reasons (his example was 2 people who had to guard their gear while everyone else eats) so they make a tray of whatever is available for them when they’re allowed to go eat.
They don’t deserve even mud for food. But, there’s a solution: see that fatty right besides you, soldier?
They deserve it for wanting to serve there. None of them are good people. They know what they sigbed up for (not talking about the food)
Let me guess, Aramark?
Now do modern prison and public school food for comparison.
In the US, yes.
Less chance to get shot in prison
Drastically higher chance of getting shanked tho
Honestly, the pics I’ve seen of USA school food were worse. Which kinda tracks; I’m sure they value soldiers higher than children.
Above I see full grain rice and a variety of protein sources, if industrially produced. Salad is missing of course but that would be too much to ask Ig
edit: I have heard that it varies. Both the pics in this post and the posts I’ve seen are anecdotal but not isolated outliers either.
School food in the US is highly variable. Each individual school district sets food contracts, and there are over 13,000 districts. That said, many of them have very bad food, especially any district contracting with Sodexo is going to have awful food. But a lot of us make lunch for our kids to bring every day either way
My boys have packed for probably 2-4/5 days forever. They ALWAYS buy on Friday as apparently get a treat - ice cream bars, etc. And, cannot just buy the treat… Mostly they take leftovers. Occasionally (maybe once a week or so?) sandwiches - PBJ, or whatever delimeat we have.
As @[email protected] just mentioned, it varies greatly.
The lunch at my kids school today is:
- Crispy chicken sandwich
- Tater tots or French fries
- Assorted chilled fruits (from local farms, usually blueberries, strawberries, cranberries, peaches, and apples)
- Choice of veggies: pickles, cole slaw, or cucumber salad
- Milk (1%, fat free, fat free chocolate, soy, almond)
Each of those gets a swap option (not as much variety here given what it is) for allergies and preferences (such as vegan options).
It would be really hard to try and make me consider that worse than what I just looked at.
Edit: Full disclosure, our kids bring their lunch every day, on Fridays they can get an extra treat like cookies or something from there though). My wife makes bread fresh, we get our produce from the local farms too as well as growing a few things ourselves, etc.
Speak for your terrible school district. Mine growing up, and my kid’s today, had magnitudes better food than this slop.
Prison food tho, you’re on the mark based on what I’ve heard from my buddy and my brother from the time they spent back there.
Nah, my kids’ district has really good food. But we also have high property taxes that pay for it.
This looks on par or worse than school lunch when i was in grade school. Looks like less too, somehow.
The company that ran my alma mater’s cafeteria also served kitchens. The food plan my college had selected was the one below what they serve in prison…
If I can only fix one I’m going with the school food.
An army recruiter came to my extremely poor elementary school, and could basically say anything to us kids. Told us that if we joined the army you can get whatever food you want, at all, from the mess hall and a chef will cook it for you. And yes, being able to get food was a motivating factor for some of us.
I asked if you could get eggs Benedict every day if you asked for it. He looked a little nonplused, then said “oh yeah sure! Every day!”
I knew at that point he was full of it and told him so.
The rich school near me had the same thing. Navy medic came in to describe how amazing the navy treats you. Definitely not a recruiter, though. Made very clear up front that he wasn’t there recruiting. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
I will say, that experience varies wildly by branch, and even chow hall to chow hall within a branch. I was in the Marines, and the “new” chow hall on Pendleton mainside (they opened it about a year after I got there, but that was 15 years ago now) was really pretty good. Solid breakfast burrito line, an omelet station where you could get real eggs, etc. Lunch and dinner had a few options, and a panini bar.
The chow hall we had before that one opened was a dump.
But then, I went TDY to an Air Force base. And let me tell you, that was better than most restaurants I’ve been to.
If the Air Force had to eat at marine corps chow halls until they could pass a DoD audit, they would pass on a month.
I knew this post was going to end on an Air Force story when I read “varies wildly by branch”.
Army recruiter in elementary school? Wtf? Just when you think lemmy already showed you what it’s like over there… From “it sucks” to starship troopers’s shit level.
What do you think that story is about in the first place? It’s based on a true story, just painted over to seem like fiction.
told him so.
How did he respond?
He didn’t like his ruse exposed but tried to play it off and change the subject. The teacher was amused though
Good for you.
Devastation caused by US service men and women:
So maybe they should all be in prison, but they should probably have better food than that their prison.
You would think seeing how we spend more on prisons then our schools…
These pictures look pretty good for prison food. Source: friends who have been through it
As a former enlisted who thankfully got medical’d out of the service very early, the ONLY thing I find mildly infuriating 8s that it looks like my old school lunches.
Why do they deserve to get better food than our children?
Anyone still in can kiss my ass. Most enlisted joined within the last 10 years where it’s been a ShitShow since Trump1.0. I joined when I thought Obama was going to be different, but am glad I got out not long after it became clear how much he loves drone strikes. I would have just gone awol when trump showed up.
Modern military deserves the food we give to homeless people. Once we improve the lives of those who have it worst, we can think about getting them better food.
pro tip: stop fucking joining this shitshow.
For many, joining the US military is the only way out of poverty, a path to citizenship, or a way to a higher education. Some others just are victims of propaganda, or just genuinely sadistic, but unfortunately most of the people joining the military are victims of a failed education and social security system designed to bring more troops into the meat grinder.
EDIT: Holy moly. I do not condone US imperialism at all. I am not saying that people who fall into the poverty draft get a free pass either. What I AM saying is that the US war machine is a fucked system that results in endless atrocities abroad but unfortunately will only to continue unless we dismantle the institutions that blindly draw people to the machine so that these people who would otherwise be vulnerable can wake the fuck up and turn away from it. These systems include capitalism, propaganda, imperialism, jingoism, a failed education system, etc… Chill out friends.
Joining the US military means killing innocent men women and children all over the world.
Is “wanting to escape poverty” a valid excuse to murder children? Bank robbery is a more noble profession than US militant.
Is surviving a reason for doing something bad?
I’d say yes and anybody that disagrees has probably never been in that situation.
There is a reason the military recruits the poor.
Surviving is when you go work for or McDonalds or Uber not kill brown children. Such a pathetic excuse for mass murder. As if these people had no other option. In reality becoming a mercenary mass-murderer is just a bit more lucrative than flipping burgers.
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You are saying that it is okay to torture and murder foreigners for money (and college)
Spoken like someone who’s never truly known desperation or genuine hunger. ie. One of the bourgeoisie who’d be first against the wall.
What are you talking about the average US militant isn’t poor at all and even the poor ones could easily work somewhere else. You’re just doing mental gymnastics to excuse doing child murder for money
No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in you pretending to know what it is to be desperate, that you can judge others in such a position.
I ain’t justifying diddly squat.
Edit: For clarification, watching the fall of the American empire in real time is both amusing and enlightening. Hopefully, it happens fast enough that I get to see the end result.
Putting the fed in feddit. Loser.
If you can join the most expensive military in the world, you are not nearly as desperate as, for example, people who survive in NATO without that.
Also nowhere near as desperate as the people whose countries NATO keeps invading.lol. seems like you know what bourgeois is huh? careful with all that edge.
You either agree that the people your empire has been invading have a right to defend themselves by eliminating your ss troops, or you think that your ss troops deserve to survive and get higher education.
Which is it?there are lots of ways to ‘survive.’
let me ask you question: what’s worse from a moral standpoint: stealing an old ladies purse or killing someone? what about pitching a tent on land that someone else owns? what about parking your RV in a wal-mart parking lot overnight?
some of those things are crimes and you’ll be looked down upon even if you don’t get caught.
so, why do we say ‘thank for your service’ and then turn around and see the thief as less than human?
i’d rather have someone poach on my land than bust into my house and shoot me in the face. i’d think anyone would feel that way.
That whole thank you for your service thing is also distinctly American. No where else does that.
I don’t thank people for their service. I understand that some people needed to to survive. You’re legally allowed to park in wall mart overnight with an RV at a majority of locations as well.
the reason is capitalism. but it doesn’t excuse those who voluntarily join.
Would it be okay, then, for me to rob, torture, and kill your family if it was the only way for me to get higher education (i.e. something that is not necessary to live)?
What about the families these monsters kill that won’t be able to receive higher education on account of being dead or kidnapped?Strawman but good
not a strawman. literally every role in the military is involved in the murder of children. every. single. role.
And what about roles outside of the military? When was the last time you contributed to slavery or child exploitation with your purchases? How about your employer?
two things can be true at once.
Just wanted to make sure since people in this thread seem to be taking a holier-than-thou stance. As above:
Would it be okay, then, for me to rob, torture, and kill your family if it was the only way for me to get higher education (i.e. something that is not necessary to live)? What about the families these monsters kill that won’t be able to receive higher education on account of being dead or kidnapped?
If we’re talking about more than just service members who directly engage in combat and are including non-combat roles (cook, mail clerk), then the answer has to be yes.
You are equating purchasing things with directly participating in the most vile military on the planet.
I hate to break it to you, but your consumption of unethical products is also direct participation in the unethical production of said products.
Why “strawman”? They are literally saying that that is perfectly okay to do for USians against people elsewhere. Why can’t you also say how it would be so good if you were on the receiving end of this poverty-alleviating programme?
Also, again, what about the poverty and education of the families these soldiers kidnap, torture, and kill?
would you say the same for ICE? they also recruit from poor migrant communities because they’re most desperate and the pay and perks are good - would you say they’re justified in joining and terrorising the ones that didn’t?
and while I 100% agree that propaganda and the system failing them is the main reason driving that - we don’t counter the propaganda by normalising the poor-to-terrorist pipeline as “well the system sucks but you gotta do what you gotta do” - there are red lines and if we could collectively resist them - we starve the system from being able to force people into the meat grinder
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You think I care that the only way for them to go to college is to go and murder people in the country I’m from. Fuck them and fuck anyone who makes excuses for the American empire.
Seriously. Oh its ok, you needed to work at Auschwitz to pay for college.
i couldn’t afford college. Didn’t join. Ended up a software engineer. 🤷♀️
They have the option of just not going to college.
Or do you think I should be rewarded with more university by kidnapping, torturing, and killing your family?
service guarantees citizenship
No, it does not. Grew up watching the non-english news, every year you would see reports of people that joined the military with that promise from recruiters and were deported at the end of their service.
I’m making a reference to Starship Troopers, specifically the movie, which was a satire on fascism. “Service guarantees citizenship” was a propaganda line by the fascist government in the movie.
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I will guarantee that you would not volunteer to go to jail and be sentenced to hard labor for your view on this. Lotta keyboard warriors that will defend a lot of people doing things to feed their family and escape poverty unless they are the US military specifically.
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Cool, you can also go head and do something to stand up for your ideals that results in jail time. If what you are actually going to do is removed behind a keyboard and pay your taxes, you are doing the same thing most people in the military do. At any given time 99% of the military is also removeding and doing nothing.
I’m not American. Your shit ass country will be invading mine in the near future. Frag your officer.
Oh I’m not in anymore, fuck Trump and injuries got me retired. Yeah, this country does suck. I’m going to put the blame on the people that control both the military and the size of the population in poverty though.
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“Russian soldiers are just doing things to feed their family and escape poverty.”
lol demonizing Russian conscripts that they had to start putting trigger guards on so they couldn’t kickstart their rifle through their skull. Good example. The poor are the pawns of the oligarchs and the despots. You and I are lucky enough to fuck around and have this chat.
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The fucking nerve of you calling people who wouldn’t sign up to murder children on the other side of the planet for a paycheck cowards is fucking disgusting.
You should really be ashamed of yourself and your country.
Do something that puts you in jail or poverty for your beliefs. You won’t, because you are also all talk.
Most of the USian military is from well-off backgrounds and none are forced to join.
Also, do you support the countries that these people invade to lethally incapacitate these supposedly-desperate soldiers?
Go ahead and show anything that says people who join the US military are well off. I believe the US is and has been involved in conflicts they should not have been since WWII where casualties should be expected but were unnecessary to even be there in the first place. I understand why what the US calls terrorist organizations exist and why US actions are a self-fulfilling cycle of creating more destruction and more adversaries. I support other nations in their right to defend themselves from said unnecessary action and blame the people that actually send people off to die for nothing.
Go ahead and show anything that says people who join the US military are well off.
Can’t do that right this moment, but what income quantiles do you think are the most represented in the USian genocide machine?
They target poor people for recruitment
Ohh if you’re pissed at this just wait until you hear that the administration is funding the war out of the payroll for the armed services.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/27/trump-iran-war-navy-budget
When sailors stop getting paychecks on time it’s gonna be lit.
Isn’t that like the first rule of history, always pay your military?
No, the first rule is always feed your military
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Oh, nice we might see the trifecta of incompetence soon then.
Not Feeding Not Paying Not Maintaining
WOO!
“We are lucky that they are so fucking stupid”
~Ukrainian Soldier
Donald doesn’t pay.
Yes. You end up with a military dictatorship or rarely something better. Given the amount of military folk who love the idea behind Starship Troopers, i wouldn’t bet on the latter.
Ohhh that’s bad. No pay and no food makes it difficult to run a ship.
Maybe. I would have thought there would have been brass pushed over the side just for that food but I don’t know if that’s happened.
Ok chat, what the fuck is this?
Thermal paste
Boot insole
Not sure if lead slab or a cursed pickle… Maybe both.
I read lead slab and agreed with that assessment
A strip of a dr scholl’s odor eater
A thin slice of protein loaf.
😂 all I can see is insoles
Soylent Green
Well, it’s gray of course.
Reminds me of frozen gyro I’ve purchased. Honestly spiced well and tastes good but usually you fry it up to be a bit browned on each side, and then you put a few slices in a pita with tzatziki and onion, cucumber, and tomato.
On its own it’s also fine, but basically just a meat / protein at that point.
slice of tube egg, aged to perfeggtion?
Sucks to suck, don’t join the fascist army.
I was just wondering why this is mildly infuriating. I find it mildly hilarious. Dumb fucks joined up after the US went full mask off.
Get what ya get and don’t throw a fit.
Students need to get money somehow, with AI taking their jobs.
You can work and live without having to resort to bombing foreign countries. That is an insane argument to try and make.
They are hoping to just drain gov money while no war happens.
Besides the point, but: I have yet to see ai take jobs.
The misguided belief in ai is costing jobs.
But that’s also pedantry from my part.
This is uplifting not infuriating.
Why?
Child killers not getting 5star meals?
Explain
This was 35+ years ago, those soldiers are most likely already retired or dead.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m asking for info and no one will provide anything except “they deserve shit” lol. Wtf if this thread, feels like trumpers defending orange Mussolini.
Haha that’s crazy dude. Is the US military like, doing anything extremely similar to attacking Iraq right now? Surely they wouldn’t be doing this kind of stuff 35 years later haha stupid Trumpers
Once again, can you provide a link?
What info do you need? Sources for the fact that the USian military participated in the invasions of Iran, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.?
