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        Even doubly so, when you think about it. Masks really don’t work against BO, just like the idiots claimed it didn’t work against covid lol

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          They’re pretty good at making you realise you shouldn’t have rushed brushing your teeth, though – which also highlights what they’re for.

          Come to think of it, I wonder if that’s part of why some people hated them so much, because they had to breathe their own stank mouth. Huh.

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      I knew a girl in college that had lost her sense of smell. This was 20 years before covid, so that wouldn’t have been the cause. Maybe this loomer person has no sense of smell.

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        On a serious note, COVID isn’t the only virus that can cause loss of smell (permanent or temporary). I lost it before COVID for a month or so, and it took some time for it to return completely. But to this day, there are still certain chemical smells (like deodorants in spray) that smell a tiny bit off to me.

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          Know somebody that lost smell due to covid and they also said there are certain things that just don’t smell the same anymore.

          Like coffee apparently. It no longer smells as good to him as it used to.

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            Yeah, I think my sense of smell in general has never returned in full capacity. I think it’s slightly weaker. Crazy stuff.

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          My wife has COVID olfactory loss that has never fully come back. I’m thankful in a way because I can fart on road trips and she doesn’t know it.

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            Joke’s on you. To compensate for her loss of smell, she developed super hearing. Now she hears you fart every time.

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        My mom has no sense of smell, I believe it was from a polyp surgery where the surgeon nicked something during the operation. We couldn’t have any gas powered appliances growing up because she wouldn’t be able to smell a leak if there was one.

        Plenty of reasons beyond COVID for why someone may not be able to smell.

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      Dollar signs in her eyes are bigger than squiggly lines up her nose, it’s that simple.

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      If we have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of people at Trump’s rallies, then that’s what we’re going to do

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        Even if it weren’t true, is just an “alternative fact” that would clearly be “directionally true”

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        On Facebook, I saw that my neighbor posted about her friend’s daughter’s cat going to a Trump rally and leaving early because of the smell. This is a 100% true, irrefutable fact, that can and should be quoted on national TV and taken seriously.

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      You’ve got it all wrong, they’re fine with masks for certain purposes (lynchings, intimidation) but not for others (public safety, AntiFascist protest)

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    tbf he looks it. if there’s anyone who looks exactly like BO would, it’s him. with his disgusting color, shape, texture, everything.

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    > Kinzinger described Trump’s scent as an odd mix of armpits, ketchup, makeup, and butt

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    This sort of story is dumb. Is that really the reason you wouldn’t vote for someone? There must be more compelling points. So who is this for?

    I think it’s just circle-jerky “the team I hate also smells icky” stuff, like when Alex Jones said Obama and Hillary literally smelled like sulfur.

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      Okay, but think about the person who would vote for him because he’s powerful, won’t succumb to that prissy woke-ism, etc.

      Like it or not, but people vote on vibes all the time, and thinking he’s a cool guy who will drain the swamp (by cutting welfare and social programs) is better for him than being kind of a smelly loser. It undercuts the strongman narrative that Republicans are selling.

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      It is a valid line of inquiry if you consider that not taking care of basic personal hygiene is a symptom of mental incompetence. We do not want to elect a mentally incompetent leader. By all visible evidence, the man has working arms and hands that should presumably be able to reach to wash himself. So if he goes around smelling like a toilet dumpster then something is mentally wrong there.

      Of course there have been numerous other indications of such issues beyond the reports of stench.

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        is a symptom of mental incompetence. We do not want to elect a mentally incompetent leader.

        I would prefer a person with a some disorders which sometimes have such a downside to a “normal” person, other things being equal.

        Also people may “take care of basic personal hygiene” and still become stinky 5 times sooner than healthy people, have you considered that?

        Ableism is bad.

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          I’ll take “Things you don’t believe” for $200.

          I would prefer someone who didn’t try to overthrow an election be in charge of our country, and sadly Trump absolutely fails that very simple litmus test.

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            You have reading comprehension problems. Which means you likely don’t have any of the disorders I was thinking about.

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              That is a very ableist attitude to potebtially exclude learning disabilities, so maybe my comprehension skills were pretty good after all.

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                Ableism is when you exclude disorders which don’t have to be excluded, that is, which don’t negatively affect one’s capabilities in some particular role.

                Disallowing blind people to drive cars is not ableism, unless there is a solid technology to convey to them all the necessary information with good enough latency.

                So - for roles of judges and other responsibilities to make principled decisions, autistic people are generally better than “normal” people. Because they choose in favor of principle in “conflict of interest” situations usually, which is also why there are no autistic people in politics.

                For roles requiring unbiased thinking, autistic people and people with ADHD are generally better than “normal” people. Due to former’s alienation from society (which is the most notable source of bias) and latter’s ability to grasp wider contexts.

                For roles where pessimism is required, most people with disorders causing alienation are better than “normal” people, other things being equal. Simply because seeing the society break from its blind zones is a useful experience.

                But that doesn’t mean not allowing an autistic person to command a fire squad is ableism.

                Or that an ADHD person probably being a very bad bookkeeper is an ableist thought.

                While assuming that someone is unfit to fulfill a social\decision-making role because they physically stink is ableist. He can have one of plenty non-mental conditions causing that. It’s simply impractical to take showers every hour.

                While saying that him being a narcissist kinda disqualifies him is not ableist. And he definitely is a narcissist with dementia.

                It’s just that both Obama and Harris and Biden behave very similarly to real people with ASPD whom I’ve met. See, ASPD is such a funny thing that people having it don’t behave weirdly. They actually are very sane and glossy in appearances, or at least normal. Except for morals and empathy.

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                  You know there’s words you can use besides “normal.” A common one is neurotypical. Also, everything you said is generalizations with no basis in reality and incredibly ableist, so, again, you have proven me right.

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                No, I shouldn’t, GTFO

                EDIT: Also mind your own business.

                EDIT2: Remembered about that “block user” thing.

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                  Lmao yes, I’ll mind my own business on an open forum you are not forced to use lol

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          “ disorders” like being a malignant narcissist? Raging and flailing in wrath and desire for vengeance? Maybe not the best idea.

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            I said “some”. No, I know that’s a good idea. Basically some disorders make one less of an ape. Which is a good thing, if you are not a monarch or an authoritarian ruler which need to be apes else they won’t see a coup until it happens.

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              I guess but it depends which one. Whatever the fuck is wrong with Trump as far as his mental/personality disorders is disqualifying.

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      I mean I get what you’re saying but… If someone can’t manage their own personal hygiene, especially with all the resources in the world, how in hell can they manage a country?

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      Indirectly, it’s a strong indictment of Trump’s mental health. A politician’s strongest weapon (and a conman’s, which he also is) is their image, and Trump knows it. If he’s letting himself go to the extent that his odor deserves note, then you can be assured that he’s let go of everything else that he considers less important than his image (i.e. everything else that exists) at least as much as he’s let go of his hygiene, probably more.

      The Donald J. Trump that debated Biden was a bad choice for a set of reasons that did not include becoming incapable of caring for the most important thing in his life. The current DJT has added that reason to the list.

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        I think it’s more indicative that he doesn’t listen to or care about the opinions or feelings of anybody around him, which is a bad quality in a leader unless you want your country run by a despot. Mao never brushed his teeth and reportedly had breath that could raise the dead.

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              well i mean, there is no confirmed genocide, only suspected genocide, and if we’re arguing that this is an environment for genocide to take place, i would agree with that, but i would stop short of confirming it because i’m not a court and i don’t know the law surrounding genocide in a military context, so i don’t know anything about it.

              I just thought your username was funny lol

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              No, I’m going on what Trump and dozens of high level Republicans have very clearly stated about the current war, as well as the long history of Republicans supporting Israel with funds and weapons. That isn’t speculation at all.

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                Yeah, well, you’re speculating on what Trump might do by saying ‘finish the job.’ Biden and Harris are providing the money and weapons for Netanyahu to finish the job right now

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                  Let’s see, would Trump be better for Palestinians? To the extent we should work to get him elected versus Harris over this issue? Well, one would have to be incredibly stupid or just a trump supporter or both to think that. Trump would come with a bonus of a few different genocides - Ukraine, Central American immigrants to the US, trans people - and absolutely continue finding and supporting Israel. So what’s your point exactly?

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          I agree. Absolutely disgusting. And people are even campaigning for Donald specifically so he can “finish the job” in Gaza with the same fervor that he dropped bombs on Yemen. There is no depth to how awful MAGAs can be.

          Especially disgusting are the MAGAs cosplaying as leftists. It’s repugnant that they pretend they are against genocide when they want pogroms. They see this blood libel conspiracy against Haitian people in Ohio and they want more. They are sick racists actually excited for more killings of the groups they hate.

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      It is dumb, and not the reason anyone should not vote for him. That said, someone who foreign leaders don’t want to be in a room with could present a problem.

      I hope this article doesn’t convince people, but instead they are convinced by the many, many others showing he is criminal and selfish. It is somewhat satisfying to have someone you really dislike have other undesirable qualities.

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        Another way to think about it, at some point even at McDonald’s you’d get fired for poor hygiene if you constantly showed up to work smelling awful. That standard should especially apply to a diplomatic role in government.

        But yeah, this is bottom tier reason not to elect him.

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          I imagine that inciting a treasonous insurrection would also be grounds for termination even at McDonald’s.

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        In absolute terms, it would be a great reason not to elect him. In relative terms, he’s so awful that it’s very far down the list of reasons he’s unfit to serve.

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      This is the going low we’ve spent a decade arguing over. Well informed voters with strong morals are all either voting dem or holding out for the Dems to go left. This is us appealing to the common jackass who voted on vibes and thinks strength is more important than policy. The people who think strongman is a compliment. We aren’t even caring if they vote dem, we’re trying to kill their enthusiasm to vote for trump. Because appealing to Americans better nature didn’t work

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        In 2016, up to Election day, I was reasonably confident Clinton would win. I didn’t like her, and I thought she was too right-wing, but the other side was objectively terrible and filled with awful people. I betted on American decency…and lost.

        This year? If it takes saying the shitgibbon literally smells like shit to convince people to not vote for him, then let’s start pointing out the shitgibbon actually smells like shit (and other unsavoury stuff).

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      If elected, he represents you and your country internationally. This could have an impact on negotiations etc. Maybe not with leaders who prefer to sit on the other end of an insanely long table though.

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      Part of me agrees and wishes our politics could be more elevated than this, but American democracy is at the point where we’re banking on a Taylor Swift endorsement to save us from literal fascists from taking over. That’s where we’re at.

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      It’s unfortunately how you win these days. Campaigns in the past tried to take the high road when Trump went low. That doesn’t work. So this is what we get.

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      No, I don’t think stories like this have anything to do with trying to convince voters to not vote for Trump because he smells bad. There’s a pretty strong smear campaign going against him right now, and he doesn’t realize that he’s the critical piece to the campaigns success. Every time he insists that he isn’t weird, or insists that he doesn’t smell, suddenly half of the shit that he’s talking about ends up being trying to defend his image on the public stage. The reason that silly little things like “he smells like ass, ketchup, makeup, w.e” are actually important right now is that Trump might see it. Someone related to Trump might see it, and suddenly the thought is living rent free in their brain.

      Trump can’t help himself, he has to respond. What kind of strong leader spends all their time whining about what other people are saying? He could smell like a fucking dumpster as long as he leads the country correctly, no?

      Not only that, if they aren’t Trump, they could probably make money off of interviews about whatever other weird shit surrounds Trump. It’s a strategy that makes them (Magats and Trump) start to point fingers at one another, and honestly that’s exactly what needs to happen if we want to prevent a conservative win in November.

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        Smear campaign? He is and always has been the smear. The dude is incredibly vile in every way possible and always has been.

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      This is dumb and odor shouldn’t be anyone’s last straw with Donald, but I’ll take whatever we can get.

      You have to at least agree that this one seems to be backed by evidence, and differs from Alex Jones’s bullshit on at least that.

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      One is weird shit based on fairy tales that is obviously made up. The other is entirely plausible and consistent with other reports I’ve read about how he smells. It may be frivolous but it’s not the same.

      Also we’re talking about someone who would be expected to meet world leaders and other noteworthy people in person on a regular basis. If he’s physically disgusting, that’s a very bad look for all of us.

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      Bro if he can’t even take care of himself how do you think he will take care of us?

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      It’s the journalistic version of junk food.

      That said, I can’t imagine he smells good. It makes the thought of Laura Loomer blowing him that much grosser

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      If true, it could indicate some sort of mental decline, basic hygiene around coworkers is expected when you’re competing in one of the largest popularity contests in the world.

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      Jones is a deranged liar though. It’s far more believable that Trump has poor hygiene than his histrionic idiocy about Obama.

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      Right, it’s the same kind of stupid outrage like the Obama “tan suit” scandal.

      It’s just there to stir up those that are already against the person.

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      For many, yes - this kind of thing is a reason not to vote for someone where open fascism is a non-event. It’s dumb, but it (kinda) works.

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    Maybe that’s why people leave his rallies in droves. The breeze starts blowing the wrong way, and the crowds get his diaper+BO stank right in their faces.

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    He smells as putrid on the outside as he does on the inside. This is what evil smells like.

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      Now, there are people who have a medical condition that causes body odour, so let me say that they are not necessarily evil. Trump, however…

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        But trump does not have a medical condition. He’s a junkie who shits himself and he eats the worlds worst diet. This is what real zombies smell like.

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    Are we to believe that this is the reason Miller, Vance, and Loomer all wear skin masks? Seems convenient.

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    And laura loomer brags she had sexual things done to him… imagine that

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        Some people lack a sense of smell. They often have an offensive odor. Since I find what these people say offensive its no stretch at all to believe they really stink.

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            Why would he snort Sudafed when he had access to real drugs? Sudafed can act as a simulant but it’s a very rough “high”, more comparable to drinking too much coffee than a party drug.

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              From what I’ve previously read, a young Trump had a close family member (I wanna say Uncle) die from drug abuse, specifically cocaine and alcohol, and he had to watch this guy spiral all the way down. Trump swore to stay away from drugs and booze after that, but I think it just scared the shit out of him. Plus, he had that drawer that was suspiciously full of “the good” sudafed.

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                No, he was very much face-down-in-the-coke-pile for awhile. His production assistant says he has a scar on the side of his nose from repairing his blown-out septum, which is one reason he slathers all that greasy paint on his face.

                David Cay Johnston notes that the helicopter service trump rented to fly between NY and Atlantic City was based out of Miami for a reason.

                Trump’s casinos retained Weichselbaum’s firm to fly high rollers to Atlantic City. Weichselbaum was indicted in Ohio on charges of trafficking in marijuana and cocaine. . . . Weichselbaum, who in 1979 had been caught embezzling and had to repay the stolen money, pleaded guilty to two felonies.

                Donald Trump vouched for Weichselbaum before his sentencing, writing that the drug trafficker is “a credit to the community” who was “conscientious, forthright, and diligent.”. . . In seeking early release, Weichselbaum said Trump had a job waiting for him.

                Ya boi knows a rail of coke when he sees it.

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                  Fair. I can’t claim to be an expert on trump drug use. I’m going off a blurb I remember hearing somewhere, but I can’t attribute or verify.

                  Trump is also known to lie on occasion.

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        We can only dream of things being so bad for the campaign that this would be a planted story.

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      Imagine pulling that tiny peanut out of their diaper so you put it in your mouth. Now try to imagine pride…