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Others in captivity, for instance: Chimps Are No Chumps: Give Them An Oven, They’ll Learn To Cook

It’s still more chickens who still very much suffer a lot, just a little less in one specific way. It is not accurate at all to say that they don’t suffer while they are alive along with suffering while being killed. It potentially worsens a lot of issue by increasing numbers. From the earlier article

Our results indicate that, if raised in CAFOs, a shift to slower-growing Rangers may increase crowding and related welfare concerns including increased footpad dermatitis [7], jostling, conflicts and potentially infection risk [14], and thus may translate to a decrease in aggregate welfare at scale. A shift to individual better-welfare chicken breeds aims to lessen bone, heart and disease issues in present Ross birds, but even in non-CAFO production systems, slower-growing breeds may still experience other negative welfare conditions such as emotional and physical stress, disease, predation, injury and premature mortality, as well as distressing transport and slaughter practices

I am mixed about this. On the one hand fast-growing birds have tons of health issues and help to make the production cheaper which allows the industry to stay larger. On the other hand if consumption and production levels stays constant, the total number of chickens killed will increase. Slower growing chickens have lower slaughter weights which means you need more of them. From a study looking at the US:

Maintaining this level of consumption entirely with a slower-growing breed would require a 44.6%–86.8% larger population of chickens and a 19.2%–27.2% higher annual slaughter rate, relative to the current demographics of primarily ‘Ross 308’ chickens that are slaughtered at a rate of 9.25 billion per year.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsos.210478#d1e265

Not the person you originally replied to, but eating plants directly would at least be a sort of harm reduction in that case. It takes a lot more plants to raise non-human animals than to just use plants directly. This is also a big part of why the environmental impact is so high for meat, dairy, etc.

1 kg of meat requires 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013

Pockets of progress can still exist within broader repression. Based on your profile, I’m going to guess you’re from the US? If you want some hope:

US Senate Passes Bill Giving Children the Right to Plant-Based Milks in Public School Lunches and this ended up getting signed into law 9 days ago. It also overturned an 80 year old provision that prohibited plant-milks from being offered without special request from doctor/parent in K-12 school lunches. (Which I never would have thought would get overturned now of all times)

Clean energy is still booming in the U.S. despite Trump’s best efforts. Renewables still are going into place because they are just the cheapest option, and the Trump admin has had a lot of their attempts to target renewables paused in court for now. Not that it’s not impacting it at all (it obviously is), but that it isn’t enough to stop progress entirely

Minnesota’s Most Populous County Implements Plant-Based-By-Default Policy for Official Meetings and Events

NYC Set To Cut All Processed Meat In Schools, Hospitals, And Care Centers and is going to replace them with whole plant-based foods

I can keep going. There is a lot of focus in both traditional and social media about the bad news and very little about good news. But there are people trying and when people try you always have the chance to win

Don’t stop trying

And this is going on during a (one day) state wide general strike in Minnesota

Protests in Minnesota have been going on constantly every day in multiple places, the media is just hardly reporting on it. They are not small either. People have also formed entire network to monitor ICE and make sure that people can respond fast anywhere they go

Voting can stop you from going backwards, but voting alone is not enough. It will not fix the mess we are in by itself. It’s vote and take action not vote or take action. There is absolutely not time to wait for elections. Voting is important, but it has to be done with other action or the country will not survive

Minnesota is also in the middle of general strike today as well. Statewide, for the first time in almost 100 years. Economic power matter, and people are starting to use their leverage there in a real meaningful way

Not all agriculture is equal, animal products are uniquely inefficient

Transitioning to plant-based diets (PBDs) has the potential to reduce diet-related land use by 76%, diet-related greenhouse gas emissions by 49%, eutrophication by 49%, and green and blue water use by 21% and 14%, respectively, whilst garnering substantial health co-benefits

[…]

Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/html

This does does not reflect how people ate then. Evidence is growing to suggest that the per-agricultural humans ate mostly plants. It’s just been harder to see until recently because bones and such are easier to spot. For instance here’s one study

Our results unequivocally demonstrate a substantial plant-based component in the diets of these hunter-gatherers. This distinct dietary pattern challenges the prevailing notion of high reliance on animal proteins among pre-agricultural human groups

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02382-z

Eating the current level of meat, dairy, etc. in the west is rather new even within the last hundred years. This new food pyramid is an acceleration of a very recent trend that has had poor health consequences

That difference seems a lot higher than most of the world. Were you looking at price per unit volume or price per whatever the container was? I’d be really surprised if there’s a difference that high

There is also the option of making plant-milks yourself. Price can be a lot cheaper that way by orders of magnitude. (Though may take some experimentation to get good tasting recipes, so don’t necessarily judge off of the first taste)

It probably won’t stop most people, but they’ll try to do anything they can to slow things down even if it’s on the margins

The goal isn’t necessarily to change how people speak (though they would if they could), but more to make the product name on the stores shelves look less appealing to reduce sales

He’s uh claiming to be “ending the war on saturated fats” so one may want to re-evaluate. The focus on animal proteins (plant proteins get only side mentions) and animal fats is already going against what actual health officals say. For instance from the article:

As it is, Americans are consuming protein in amounts well above the amount that is necessary to sustain health and development," Marie-Pierre St-Onge, a professor at Columbia University Nutrition, told ABC News.

And beans are Lemmy approved

Those are primarily just using the same the packing as they due to places that prohibit using the term “milk”. The dairy industry has lobbied quite hard for those bans across the world at all levels of government. Under the belief that “oat drink” or the like sounds less appealing that “oat milk”

That’s been the term of choice in English for the past 800+ years

In English, the word “milk” has been used to refer to “milk-like plant juices” since 1200 CE.[11]

Plant milks go back much further than most people realize

Almond milk spread throughout Europe during the Middle Ages and was popular in parts of the Middle East. Recipes for almond milk in the Middle East date back to around the 13th century as it was mentioned in Muhammad bin Hasan al-Baghdadi’s cookbook Kitāb al-Ṭabīḫ (كتاب الطبيخ; The Book of Dishes), written in 1226. It was especially popular during Lent.[12][13][14][15] Soy was a plant milk used in China during the 14th century.[3][16] Soy milk use in China is first recorded in 1365.[17] In medieval England, almond milk was used in dishes such as ris alkere (a type of rice pudding)[18] and appears in the recipe collection The Forme of Cury.[19] Coconut milk (and coconut cream) are traditional ingredients in many cuisines such as in South and Southeast Asia, and are often used in curries.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_milk

You can still see it in Bluesky, you just need to enable viewing things labeled “graphic media” in the moderation settings (needs “adult content” enabled first) https://bsky.app/moderation

You can still see it in Bluesky, you just need to enable viewing things labeled “graphic media” in the moderation settings (needs “adult content” enabled first) https://bsky.app/moderation