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      Pff hater, Arch users are definitely not cultists who are obligatory to share their divine wisdom and forcibly announce that they are part of this cul… Hobby.

      I use arch btw

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          Depends on the person. If it’s just someone that uses a PC for the browser and doesn’t want to learn anything something like popOS or mint would do. If they are ok with learning some Linux/Arch basics, BTRFS + EndeavorOS + KDE is hard to beat and would be my first recommendation

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        One hell of a deep end. Sometimes that’s the right choice for the right kind of person, but most people… Yeah maybe stick to something easier. If you want, mess with arch in a VM. Maybe switch down the line.

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        I can’t read “gentoo” without hearing the Weezer song “Getchoo” in my head.

        Gentoo, uh huh. Gentoo, uh huh. Gentoo, uh huh. Gentoo, Gentoo, Gentoo… ooh hoo

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      I wouldn’t know, I’ve never met a person in real life professing to using arch BTW. I see it everywhere online though, but that might just be eight guys with a ton of sock puppet accounts for all I know.

      Is arch linux even a thing, like Hanna Montana and Justin Bieber Linux is a thing?

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    Religion. All of them are cults. Every single fucking one.

    Nothing. No other hobby even comes close to the death, genocide, rape, murder, and hate generated by that type of religious cult. It’s every single year, too. Every single year religion tops its hate, greed, and pain inflicted on everyone.

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        I’m pretty sure that religion was mostly used as a kind of motivational tool for the masses, but without religion there probably would have been another excuse why the enemy needs to die

        It’s always about resources and shit anyway

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        Many people engage with the cults as a hobby though. Many of my relatives would probably agree that’s about their level of involvement, but then they pay in to the beast that does all of the culty shit…

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        For a lot of people, when you look at how they spend their time, it is clear that their religion is both their belief system AND their hobby.

        Think of the “Bible study” types. They’ve turned it into a hobby-like activity. Some I knew growing up clearly had nothing else. It was their hobby.

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            If you spend more time to consider and think about the differences between spirituality and religion, you’d see what I’m getting at. There’s a blurring of lines sure, but a lot of these religious activities are not at all necessary for their beliefs, and merely a choice that fulfills them in a similar manner as other hobbies.

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            Choosing to believe in one set of imaginary friends over another- or none- is most certainly a hobby by every definition.

            It is not essential for life. It is not required by law. People willingly choose and actively continue choosing to engage in the activities in their free time, and report positive feelings from doing so. When doubts arise, other members of the cult try hard to sway them to stay, often using threats. That’s a hobby. And a cult.

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          It is, it deviates from the norm and demands an irrational amount of obedience. Than it nests on top of the previous beilefs of the vitctim.

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      Edgelord atheist mad at christianity and islam: “every religion is genocide and hate, and I hate them.”

      Buddhists , jains, pagans, etc: “hey excuse you buddy.”

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        I mean, Buddhists just did a genocide in Myanmar. They have a cleaner track record than Abrahamic faiths for sure, but if you spend serious time in actual Buddhist places it fills the exact same societal roles.

        Neopaganism is a bit of an odd one out in that list, because it’s a newly invented thing.

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        I usually limit my ire to Abrahamic religions (though Buddhism’s track record isn’t completely clean).

        I don’t know enough about the history of Jainism to say one way or another, though given what I know about it (ALL life is sacred), i imagine they’re probably the closest an organized religion can get to being unharmful.

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        Baha’is would as well, but nobody ever remembers them. The one time I saw a question about TBF on Jeopardy, it was the Final Jeopardy question, and no one got it right.

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        Yeah seriously. It’s pretty severely missed the point of this thread.

        Ironic that it looks like someone came through and downvotes every answer in this thread other than this one, considering. It’d be pretty great if the mods banned whoever that was.

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            To be clear, at the time I made that comment, every top-level response in this thread had precisely one downvote, apart from two. One had many downvotes (“Most of them”), obviously just not very constructive. The other was this one. It’s obviously the result of some troll.

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        Going to Disneyland, buying that doll, having that retro console, collecting all the items in the set, buying that vintage car, getting a fat hog to crank it up with…

        Its melancholic nostalgia, having the things we could never have when we were young.

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          I worked at Disneyland for 8 years. I still go there every year. It’s been over 10 years and I’m still running into people I used to work with and can shoot the shit with them for an hour.

          For me, there is something about that place that I took ownership of, cared for people there, and tried to make it better in the small way I could. I see all the effort that so many people have and continue to put in and really appreciate the artistry and care these people have.

          It’s a place that I feel comfortable in, and I like to just sit, listen to the music and the sounds of the crowds and people watch.

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            Went to Disney last year. Never again. Lines are too long, you must use a phone app to get 'fast access’s to rides, but fast access is now just normal access. Standby waits are over an hour for all rides. Some rides had no standby, so no phone app, no going on that one. Oh and the phone app has limited space that I found out is usually gone 5 min after opening at 6 am or some shit.

            I had to wait 2 hours for jungle cruise while watching a non stop line of fast pass people just constantly walking on.

            It’s too crowded, elbow to elbow people.

            Still 20.00 for a crap hamburger.

            Tickets were like 380 for 2 of us.

            Save your money and leave Disney for the foreign stupid tourists

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              We foreign stupid tourists have Disney Land Paris, thank you very much.

              Still 20.00 for a crap baguette.

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              Hard agree on pretty much all of that.

              But it’s still my friends and I get in for free, I’ve been literally thousands of times (most of them Disney paid me to be there) and I, maybe, get on one or two rides a day, if I go on any at all.

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                  And do what they told me to do for 8 hours. In return, I got in for free.

                  I did have the occasional shift that was stress test a new thing so they could train. So riding an attraction that wasn’t open yet for 4 hours was pretty fun.

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              Sure, but a lot of those people there are my friends. You can find plenty of posts from me criticizing their management, board, and CEO. I don’t like how the company is run or many of their projects. But a lot of people there are actual friends of mine, and it’s an avenue for a lot of their art to be seen by the world.

              I’m a big fan of theme parks and live entertainment. I haven’t seen anywhere that really compares with them on that front. I’m not familiar with anywhere else that does a parade multiple times a day, fireworks practically every night, a dozen small theatrical productions, a large technical fountain show, and an elaborate stage production every single day. Many with people I actually personally know running or working on them.

              Disney makes money, and I agree they over charge for everything. But they also do put out a pretty good product for it. For the most part, at least. I have a lot of gripes about some of it because of the standards that I have after working there.

              Oh, and I also still utilize friends that I have there to get in for free. I haven’t paid to go to a Disney park in nearly 2 decades.

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          having the things we could never have when we were young

          This is why I went through a period of collecting multi-cultural dolls in my 20s. When I was a kid and asked my mom for a black Barbie, she got weird about it and made me feel very uncomfortable. All over wanting a doll that wasn’t white. Fuck that noise, my Barbies span the human rainbow now.

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      When I meet a chick in an online dating way, at the first mention of Disney I’m gone. Unmatch, block, whatever’s fastest.

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      i read an article where a guy was going there almost everyday, or every chance because had nothing else to do. i think somewhere in that article mentioned that people were creeped or got suspicious because he is a man with no children at that place frequently.

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        Lots of people that live locally near Disneyland or Disney World have annual passes. Except for a few “blackout” dates you can go for free everyday. I can’t imagine why you would even go more than, maybe every 6 months.

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    Competitive Super Smash Bros Melee, we won’t ever die. And Nintendo has been trying to rub us out since 2008.

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      One way money transfers, controlling people’s time and career aspirations, dividing families, rape, and murder.

      Not all “Influencers”, but some notable cases.

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      Are they fundamentally different from celebs and TV personalities of the past, or is it the scale and presentation that has changed?

      There will always be grifters and those who are led in to loyalty follow them. It’s bizarre.

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      Seriously what is the deal with it? I remembered playing it in gym decades ago and everyone hated it. Now I see people lobbying for new freaking complexes for it. Let’s see if the fad lasts more than a year before dedicating public land space to it

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        It kinda looks like tennis for the unathletic, which means I should fit right in, but I have zero interest.

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          People should just play badminton… I remember that being pretty fun in gym class once everyone got decent enough for a few volleys (those rackets are tiny).

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        It’s been lasted more than a year. Its super easy for beginners and the gap between never played and mediocre player is pretty small in my experience. Groups of different ages/skill/athleticism can play the game relatively easy together. You can get drunk while playing and still be good. You don’t have to break a sweat if you don’t want to. Games are short.

        I think it gets way too much flak and it is a little too overhyped rn. But it’s a top contender for the ideal casual game.

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    Cycling. They go from ‘this is fun’, to full blown road dictators, in about 2 weeks.

    Edit: just watch. The downvotes will likely display their cult rage.

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      Please explain exactly what you mean by “full blown road dictators”, and clearly detail how it is different from “use the road in a completely legal manner in ways trying to keep yourself and others from getting run over by the many car drivers with a sense of entitlement to the road”.

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          I honestly don’t understand what you’re trying to say, but then again I’m stoned out of my gourd.

          Could you rephrase it so an idiot would understand?

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            They’re saying that cars are bigger and stronger than bikes, which makes them able to bully cars, which makes them feel entitled to do so. Because they then feel entitled to the road, they start calling cyclists “dictators” when they are merely using the road.

            It’s a shockingly accurate description of behaviour that cyclists face on a daily basis, with drivers threatening their lives for no reason more than that the drivers feel entitled to do so.

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                Yes. Cars are the bullies and the dictators. But as the famous saying goes, “when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”. Drivers like @[email protected] are pretending that cyclists are the ones being “dictators”, merely for existing, because they perceive that existence as a personal slight against them. Drivers feel entitled, and when that entitlement faces even the slightest pushback, they accuse the others of being dictators.

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              No, I think it’s something about dictating the speed but the cars can pass unless the bikers are deliberately blocking the drive by.

              I don’t get it.

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        As a cyclist, I’d have to guess “riding two abreast when there’s a car behind you.”

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            I didn’t make the original statement, which sounds more like hyperbole than specific, legal, actions.

            From experience I can tell you that I have personally encountered cyclists disobeying the law and endangering my safety more than any other non-car transport.

            See, I was an endurance rider for most of my life. Meaning I spent long hours, 3-4 days a week on trails, on horseback, moving at speed.

            On these trails, cyclists are required to stop and move to the side when they hear or see an equestrian.

            The number of times they did this, over 20 years as an equestrian? 4.

            The number of times they didn’t? Dozens, possibly over a hundred.

            The number of times it caused a wreck and people got hurt? 3.

            Cyclists whine about horse poop and having to stop, but WE maintained those trails, they did nothing other than whine and cause accidents.

            I’m sure there’s some of you that are not complete tools, but there’s a reason you are despised by all other users of trail systems.

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              I can’t speak for horses. I’ve only once in my life encountered people on horses while on a bike. It’s an exceedingly unusual scenario.

              I can tell you that, as a matter of fact (not anecdote), drivers and cyclists break the law at roughly the same rate. But that in crashes between cars and bikes, the car is the responsible party in 80% of cases. And that studies have established that when cyclists break the law, it is overwhelmingly done in the interest of their own safety, while drivers break the law in the interest of perceived convenience.

              I only realised after writing the above that that you mentioned “trails”. Sounds like you’re talking about mountain biking. I can’t speak to that, I’m almost exclusively a roadie, using the bike either as a means of transport or for exercise/training on the road. Saying “you” doesn’t really work here. The amount of overlap between mountain bikers and road bikers is surprisingly small.

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          They’re motorized vehicles when its convenient to them and pedestrians when its not

          Almost like…they’re neither? What you describe here is perfectly legal.

          They split lanes

          Legal

          blow through red lights

          Imagine thinking cars don’t 🤣

          and they loooooove to go out in big groups

          Not remotely against the rules

          and take over the road

          Please define. Because as someone who has spent many hours in a car, I’ve been prevented from going at the speed I would like to go by other cars far more than bikes. And my life has been put in danger by cars, not by bikes.

          The simple fact is that data tells us cyclists and drivers break the law at roughly the same rate at worst. (Incidentally, one study from a place with better infrastructure shows that when good infrastructure is in place, cyclists break the law considerably less often than drivers.) Studies also show that cyclists break the law to keep themselves safe (this has been backed up by multiple studies). When drivers break the law, it’s because they think it’s more convenient not to bother.

          The simple fact is that though @[email protected] claims it’s cyclists being “dictators” and you claim they “take over the road”, the reality is quite the reverse. When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. And no demographic in our society (excluding socioeconomic and racial discussions) is more privileged than drivers.

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              Splitting lanes is not legal in the vast majority of the United States but idk where you’re from

              Where I am it’s explicitly allowed for motorbikes (at a maximum speed of 30 km/h), thanks to a relatively recent law change. Pushbikes are a different story. There’s no law explicitly allowing it, and this has led to some people (even people in positions of perceived authority, such as the social media team of the Department of Transport and Main Roads) to suggest that it’s not legal for bikes. But the reality is that it is legal, as a necessary side-effect of the fact that cars are allowed to overtake bikes without leaving the same lane. Basically, bikes are allowed to share a lane with another vehicle, and this has the effect of also allowing a bike to come up through congested traffic.

              It’s very very rare for me to see a car blow through a red light outright

              I find this rather hard to believe. First, remember that an amber light does not mean “be careful” or “get ready, you might have to stop soon”. It means stop right now, if it’s safe. How often have you seen drivers actually do that? I’ve had so many times where, as a driver, I saw the amber and found myself in that awkward position where I didn’t know whether it was appropriate to keep going or to stop, and eventually decided to go through; a situation where it is obviously going to be the case that anyone behind me should stop, because I was on the borderline, so anyone behind me must be well over the other side of the line. And yet, so many times not only has the car behind me gone through, the car behind them did too. And that’s before we even get into the daily cases where they don’t even start to enter the intersection until after it has turned red. I’ve got a mate who rides a motorbike and posts helmet-cam footage on Facebook at least weekly, and every one of his compilations includes at least one case of a driver who runs a fully red light.

              For cyclists, recall that there are some places in your own country that explicitly allow cyclists to go through a red light if it’s safe. Not everywhere does (nowhere in Australia, to my knowledge), but those places that allow it do it for a reason. Evidence shows that it makes cyclists safer. Not all lawbreaking is equal, and the evidence pretty clearly tells us that when cyclists break the law, it tends to be for far better reasons than the reasons drivers break the law, even though the rate of lawbreaking is the same.

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      I hate cyclists, and I’m dutch. Cycle to work or the store? Fine by me, I do it all the time myself. Being a cyclist however? I’ll hate your guts.

      Tho I’m pretty sure it’s not that uncommon of an opinion here, most of the time people either hate cyclists, or are one themselves.

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      Heh I remember several years ago, I bought a cool vintage 10-speed bike which was lovingly restored by a local bike co-op, it wasn’t ever a top of the line pro racing bike or anything, just a nice old street bike for casual riding. The co-op did a great job making it like new, but with subtle finishing accents.

      I posted some pics of it on r/bicycling on Reddit to get their feedback, advice. SUCH SNOBBERY! My god, you’d think I took a shit in the middle of the lobby floor of The Ritz-Carlton. They made me feel wholly unwelcome and unwanted.

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      ive seen those, they have all the getup, wearing the gear aerodynamic helmet, and they act like karens while in the store too sometimes. and they loudly try to chatise you for almost running into them, when they suddenly pulled in front of you. i call them bicycle douches. oh and they disregard pedestrians too

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      HP fandom is pretty wierd cultish, especially around ROWLINGS terf-iness.

      another genre is supernatural fandom , pretty cultish, mostly around how the fans think the actors were in a gay relationship, when they are not. to the point it creeped out the actors(jensen and jared, and misha) and one point i heard some of the guess actors were met with death threats from said fans, who also developed parasocial relationship with the actors.

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    Y’all have some weird ideas about what a hobby is. Parenting as a hobby cracked me up, that’s just having a family, you presumably grew up in one of those. Religion isn’t a cult-like hobby, it’s a hobby-ish cult.

    On the parenting front though, I think those pageants are, those kids do it for a hobby and I would consider it abusive, and hard to exit once they are in.

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      those kids do it for a hobby

      The pageants are the parents’ hobby. The kids are whisked into it at a vulnerable stage of development in which they don’t have the agency to decide any of it for themselves.

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        I can agree with this. Like entering your dog in a dog show. I did want my kids in sport or dance as part of their education but told them if I ever gave criticism, to tell me to do the sport my own damn self. So they did their stuff as their hobbies, and I did my own art/sport stuff and kept out of theirs.

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      Nah, i must disagree here. The posters are right about being a hobby for some people. In two very bad ways

      There are (usually the dads) who only pick it up once in a while the same way they go mountainbiking,etc. Then they usually try to “make up” what they didn’t do the rest of the days and make it “extra fun”. (As usual the Simpsons did a good take on it in their fun dad episode) But they don’t give a rats ass the rest of the time. They don’t go to the doctor with the kid,they don’t know their school schedules,etc. They pick their hobby up maybe twice a month. I hate these people - because they are so numerous. When I am out with my kiddos I get comments “oh,do you babysit for your wife?” “Oh, it’s nice you take that burden off your wife once in a while.” Like what? Are you fucking crazy? My wife is the actual main income earner and this is not the 50ies.

      The other kind is as bad,imho. The overinvolved ones. The ones that basically want to do everything so right that it becomes their hobby (or obsession). The “oh no, my kid can’t eat sugar that is not made from XY” “I will not raise my child, i will love-raise them”, etc. Note that while these have a crosssection with helicopter parents they are a distinct group themselves,as some prefer an intentional other style of parenting (all nature and free roaming,etc.). But they will focus on it - countless blogs, books from unqualified authors and instagram posts will be read, countless discussions, for them it becomes their hobby…or more.

      So…there are some people who have parenting as a hobby. And that doesn’t mean the ones who have no time for hobbies anymore - as parenting is fucking hard sometimes.

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        Yes, the feigned self-chuckle the other person had out-loud so the entire comment section could listen, is delusional bullshit.

        MANY parents (and my sister is one) take parenting way beyond delivering the basic needs and rearing, and turn it into their entire personality. From the outside looking in, I can see a huge “mommy group” of women all in competition to assert who’s child has the most afflictions, which mom’s kid is the most autistic, which mom has the worst anxiety and needs the most free stuff and pity, who’s got the rarest condishun…

        Yeah, only a clueless dip would actually think this isn’t a real thing. There are a shitload of parents who make parenting their whole life and identity. And they form mini-cults. My sister has been harming her own child since he was born because it gets her more social points in these groups. It’s madness.

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    At this point, trading card collecting and grading. Oh, a new series of trading cards for pokemon or yu-gi-oh or whatever dropped? Time for all the adults to buy out every single card in the store and then run home in hopes that their scam leaders like PSA will encourage their behavior by gracing them with a card they claim is worth money despite only being out for less than a week.

    Card grading ain’t nothing but a scam, cult, and great way to encourage the worst in people, while simultaneously gatekeeping trading cards from everyone with more than 2 braincells. Ain’t nothing gonna change my mind about it.

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      on reddit its very cultish, they dont buy it because they want to play it, because they want to sell it at a huge markup, or hold onto like a stock portfolio. people on pokebeach and the main tgc forum were complaining how the scalpers and pokeinvestors are ruining the game by pricing them out of purchasing it, and competing with scalpers. Also tcpi is doing very little to fix it, limiting online store or the vending machine isnt really working, increasing the pull rates and buying singles would reduce it significant.

      mtg seems to be on a whole nother level, especially they are focusing on making cards of different well established IP.