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So the vaccine is the government implanting a tracker into me, but watches that track my vitals and send them God knows where is hunky dory?
These anti government types always have such a hard time when they become the government.
Every accusation is a confession and all that
Having watched his actual statement, is not that they want your data. That’s a red herring in the article.
But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition-- interacts with their body, that them, the individual, being able to know of how, for example, that 2nd Coke, and bag of chips is screwing up your insulin levels, and how it get affected in real time could be a positive drive for change in lifestyle. The fact is that the USA has an obesity pandemic and most people’s knowledge of nutritional science can be laughable at best. 60+% of Americans are overweight. And 33% are literally obese, including kids.
You do not have to buy a wearable. They are not making or forcing to you wear a wearable and they are not going to ask you to show papers before you want to enter a restaurant proving that you use or own a wearable. He said that he would prefer it because how do you empower people who know next to nothing? Is it the only way? Nope. Of course not, but the system has been so captured by interest groups that many changes may not be politically feasible. They could be done in theory but not in practice right now. Europe had s superior take on nutrition than the USA, for example.
Personally, I would never wear a wearable but I also spent a lot of time studying Nutritional Science and attempt to leave a healthy lifestyle. It is an extra load of work that cuts into other things and not many may want to do but it is one that it is worth doing for yourself and the family.
Additionally, I have friends who are Doctors and the concept of wearables is not always well received. Privacy concerns aside, the worry is that it can turn a lot of people into hypochondriacs if they do not fully understand some basics of human anatomy and take raw data out of context. Not to mention a waste of resources if people want to run tests for absolutely everything they think might be wrong with it. It can also be a source for unnecessary stress in some people.
Bro wrote a novel just to say they’re dumb as rocks. Lmao.
Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it
You haven’t researched as well as you think you have. Even freshly squeezed juice is unhealthy. You need the pulp too in order to slow the sugar metabolism, in which case you may as well just eat fruit.
Check Robert Lustig re sugars.
But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition
A substantial part is that our food is filled with shit.
They add sugar to everything. Food marketing is insane, and so much of it should be illegal.
Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it. Getting a loaf of bread will involve eating extra sugar. The country subsidizes corn, so high fructose corn syrup is added to everything.
Unregulated hell capitalism means that food gets to be pumped full of shit. Broke and stressed people rely on convenience foods - which don’t need to be unhealthy but are purposefully made so with addictive ingredients.
Dont forget the rest of the world won’t accept our meat standards either.
A wearable will be totally useless if the owner has no clue what he should do or don’t. Leaving people with a guilty mood will not help anyone. You cannot improvise yourself a nutritionist and most people cannot. The facts are you must first know how to cook because you will not find a healthy diet in the frozen meal aisle. Also, you cannot improvise yourself a kinesiologist. You cannot establish a sound workout routine without help or some knowledge in this matter.
That guy, Robert Fucking Kennedy doesn’t know shit about how to turn unhealthy people into healthy people. He’s just a fucking dork with no real life experience.
Revelation 13:16-17 New International Version 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
Huh. No uproar from the people who believe in this shit? Weird.
Maybe they’re all too busy basking in the warm glow of hell… Nah
They are/were anti-vax, that makes chances pretty good.
Man, I feel sick, lemme check my health watch.
status: unhealthy
Can I receive healthcare?
no
Health care is only for the healthy.
To see if you qualify for an upgrade to healthy status please input your net worth including all stocks, bonds, precious metals, fine art, jewelry & accessories, private aircraft, and yachts.
yes, but you have to pay a lot for it
As a non American, even I can see this is just a scam to further invade privacy and the data used to get increase health insurance costs
Mandating Americans use ‘wearables’ for health reasons thats coming from the same party that, when asked to wear a mask during a worldwide pandemic for the public health decried government overreach, claiming it was like living in nazi germany, and even discredited Fauci over his very true claims of wearing masks helping to save lives. I truly cant wait to see what that side has to say about Junior here, gotta keep that same energy right??
Follow the money. Nominee for surgeon general has a stake in wearable tech.
Just like when those scatter machines were forced on the TSA, it’s because the person in charge had a stake in the company making them.
My company gave these things away to each employee for some ‘fitness challenge’ between departments…I never even opened the package. My group was mad at me for not helping win the free lunch or whatever it was … Until I made them read the privacy policy. Many stopped wearing them immediately
Screw that. Give the government a way to track my vitals 24/7 and sell that information off to their cronies in the private sector? No thanks.
Vitals? You mean location. They don’t give a rat’s ass about your vitals.
False. All data has value. Vitals can 100% be used to sell targeted ads for pharmacuticals, supplements, lifestyle brands, gyms, and more. Also if it has a microphone it’s listening to everything.
Not to mention your general health status to insurance companies. Bad health score? Worse insurance deal
Exactly!
What types of data does the US sell to advertisers? Do you have ANY evidence of the always listening mic? You’d figure after 10 years of this we’d have at least some evidence, right?
I don’t know if the USA currently sells data. It appears to be illegal but the current administration doesn’t always play by the rules.
Have you ever used a phrase activated voice assistant (hey Google, Alexa, Siri). They are always listening in case you use the phrase. Amazon and Google both admit they record and stores voice data. Google sells ads based on search history.
So they aren’t, and the devices work exactly as expected by the public. I’m not shocked.
What types of data does the US sell to advertisers?
Types you haven’t even thought of. Every type of data is sold, and then derivatives of data are sold. Directly collected data, inferred data, guesses, it’s all packaged up.
Where and by who?
They’ll have a lot of fun correlating your media consumption and your vitals to know exactly what you like and dislike, especially about politics. Then they know who to target for layoffs, arrest and/or deportation.
I assume they can already get your location from your phone.
They lobotomized the wrong Kennedy.
Thing is putting the horrific privacy concerns aside it’s not like it’s a bad idea from a health perspective. Everybody being simply more aware of the things their body is doing is immensely helpful on a societal scale.
Problem is there aren’t any devices that are local only or otherwise truly private. Apple stores your data locally on your phone which is good, but there’s no guarantee it’ll always be that way.
Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.
Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.
And then the next bunch of fascists come in and seize all that data. Or the TLAs do it covertly.
We need strong data protection laws, but we also need strong technical measures to prevent intrusion.
And robust incentives for the good guys to keep a step or two ahead of the jerks
HIPAA data is protected…until it isn’t. Laws change. Especially when companies are salavating to access health data.
Laws don’t even have to change if nobody is enforcing them.
Laws don’t work any longer. Only for poor folks.
Gadgetbridge?
This is my exact thought. My state recently passed a law requiring drivers’ phones to be in hands free mode which means connecting phone to vehicle. Data sharing and security on vehicles is so under regulated. Seems like another way to forcibly track us and sell our info.
I thought there were devices like this you could buy as a kit and build yourself that were local and private.
Yeh bangle.JS is this I think
Not that I can easily find. Especially one that can be bought off the shelf by the average consumer.
The competition in the wearable space has narrowed in general. If you know of any it’d be really helpful to share, I know I’d be interested.
I love how these extremist Christian Republicans always go on about the mark of the beast and how everyone will be forced to wear it but that the righteous man won’t wear it…
All of them will do this, mark my words. These fuckers are worshipping Satan as far as they know and they’re fine with it.
Everyone in America has to give out their social security numbers to every fucking company and government department because it’s the closest thing we have to a national ID.
Why can’t we have a real, secure, National ID system? Because it’s the mark of the beast!!
But now that RFK Jr wants to hunt people for sport I’m sure they will fall in line.
My watch runs for years from a coin cell. There’s no way that I’m replacing it with an internet connected spy device that constantly needs to be charged.
Mine runs on me. It especially likes me wanking.
Good ol’ wank-o-clock.
The thought of a low battery alert saying “fancy a wank. M8?” got a laugh out of me
Mines an automatic. No electricity required.
I’ve got 20 watches and only ever change the Swatch batteries. They’re laughably inefficient. One is an old smart watch, but it needs charged daily and I’m not up to all that.
Tell that to the Apple Watch wearers.
If it ever comes to this, I’m going to “forget” to charge mine. Every day since it comes out of the box. I might wear it so that I don’t get stopped in public but this is going to be a brick.
I’m sure soon enough we’ll be “wearing” them inside our bodies so we don’t have to be troubled to make sure they’re working. Hasn’t that been the Big Tech dream for decades now?
eat shit and go to hell.
He does probably eat shit so he’s at least half way there
You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.
Do you know why most people don’t get those?
Insurance won’t cover them.Many insurance providers won’t cover them.Maybe start there? Although I’m guessing he has no buddies who would make money from routine blood tests.
The best part is the random bill.
- Go to the doctor. Get blood drawn.
- Doctor send the blood to a lab for the test. Doesn’t tell me who. I don’t care who. It’s their subcontractor, let them worry about it. *Go back to the doctor or get a call for results. Pay the doctor the standard co-pay. *Months later a random company sends me a bill. This is a company that I have never interacted with or entered into any contract with, for work that somebody else (presumably my doctor, but who the fuck knows for sure) asked them to do for them, sending the results to that other person and NOT to me.
The system is broken. If any other company subcontracted a part of their work to a third party, you as the client would reasonably expect that work to be paid through the original contract, not get a bill directly from the subcontractor. I didn’t hire them, the doctor hired them. As far as I’m concerned, that’s the doctor’s subcontractor and their debt, not mine. I paid the doctor already.
Or another variant.
- Go to the emergency room.
- Get separate bills FOR THE SAME SERVICE from the hospital, the doctor, and somehow the hospital again but this time it’s the emergency room (which is somehow separate with a different billing company).
The system is not just broken. It is designed to fleece us and train us to always accept whatever debt the institutions decide to levy on us without question.
As medical bills can’t currently ding your credit score, I just throw them in the trash.
Only up to $500 though? And if you keep ignoring them, what will you do when you run out of providers? I can’t go to the one hand expert in the area because I owe him money. Same for the CVS doc.
They send it to the same collection agency. They have never denied us care yet.
Thanks for answering! Maybe I just need to go back?
That would be a violation of the hiipa act. Your samples get sent anonymous to the Lab with only a case number. They only know the adress of the doctor.
If your doctor didn’t anonymise your sample and the lab used it to send you a bill, they’re in deep waters.
Somehow I think the national lab test company’s lawyers have got them covered. This wasn’t exactly a fly by night, no name company. Having in known third party send you a medical bill months later is pretty fucking common place. This was just one anecdote of many, not an isolated incident.
Not when the lab and the hospital are owned by the same company. Promedica (local hospital) sent my sample to Promedica (lab) and I got a bill from the lab. Because Promedica (lab) didn’t have my insurance information.
Or how about the variant:
- submit prescription refill request
- check back
- check back
- check back
- escalate
- “we don’t have your insurance info”
- yes you do but here it is again
- resubmit prescription refill request
- check back
- check back
- check back
- escalate
- “we don’t accept that insurance. Find a new doctor”
New doctor
- “why don’t you take your prescriptions regularly?”
The doctor bill is separate because they’re not hospital employees. The only have privileges to work at a given hospital, not for them.
The separate ER bill is likely some fuckery I’m ignorant of.
You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.
Do you know why most people don’t get those?
Insurance won’t cover them.
My insurance covers this.
I tweaked. Many (most?) don’t.
Interesting. I’ve never had an issue with it over multiple insurances. Maybe it’s just the plans my employers went with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Guess we’ll cut food stamps but tell people who can afford to to get a watch
Let them wear watches.
Fuck you RFK my Casio can’t and won’t connect to the internet, go swim in more sewage you dolt