• PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world
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    If a country that was more progressive than the US (not hard to find one) started bombing the shit out of New York City, would you be like “well, they deserve it for their transphobia”?

    Do you realize that Orthodox Jews consider women to be inferior to men? Like, they won’t even shake a woman’s hand.

    Sacha Baron Cohen, Zionist shithead though he is, actually got chased down the street in Israel by an angry mob for playing his flamboyant gay character Bruno. He had to yell “I’m a Jew I’m a Jew” to keep from getting the shit kicked out of him.

    Israel is literally committing genocide RIGHT NOW. I’m sure there are plenty of gay, trans, nonbinary Palestinians who have head their limbs blown off, if that’s really what upsets you.

    The genocide apologism is so obvious it’s sad. You point to one issue that will make liberals go “oh no, scary Muslims!” and you run with that. Fix your heart.

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    I don’t think people are cheering on Iran, I think they’re cheering for Israel to be on the receiving side of violence for once.

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    It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

    Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

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    Is the Iran regime bad? Yes. Are they colonial outpost that is actively committing genocide? No. Are the Iranian people settlers like the Israelis? No.

    Who is dragging the US into war with Iran and potentially WW3? Israel.

    Does this help maybe?

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    Purity politics needs to end. Some of you MFs need to learn strategy, and play a game like Civ. If Iran harasses Israel, bully for us. Two of the worst people we know are now fighting, we should celebrate this reprieve.

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    me when people like you conveniently start to pretend to care about gay people only when something happens to Israel

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        Like most godfearing red-white-and-blue-blooded Americans, I spend about 16 hours a day watching girls’ high school swimming, and let me say, it’s a travesty that the sport is 90% trans girls now.

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          the coverage of it on certain outlets is 90% trans girls, that’s for sure

    • Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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      ?? Since when is calling out pro-islamists just pretending to be pro-gay rights? Iran beats women to death for wearing the wrong clothes and tortures atheists if you want some more groups you can claim I’m just pretending to care about.

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          Iran is “within their rights” to bomb Israel back. Both the Israeli and Iranian governments are evil, run by evil men, and I wish nothing but unpleasantness for them both.

          I’ve been seeing people defend Iran like they’re some saints randomly sucker punched instead of a vile state set on building nukes to do holocaust 2. Hence the meme.

          Do I think people are stupid for defending Iran? If I answered that honestly, I would user much more accurate words and a mod would ding me for civility.

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    People are cheering on Iran out of pure spite, not out of genuine support for Iran.

    The American people are tired of our government spending out tax dollars to support a genocide and then gaslighting us about it when we call them out. They are also persecuting dissenters on it. This has happened under both Biden and Trump, though Trump has leaned more on the persecution. We are fucking sick of it.

    There is satisfaction in seeing someone stand up to genocidal Israel, even if the party doing so is despicable in their own right. I think people would greatly prefer getting behind a western democracy taking a stand, but we’re at a point where people will take what they can get. Especially with it being clear that the aforementioned western democracies aren’t going to do shit against genocidal Israel.

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    Eh, one side is committing genocide, has been ethnically cleansing Palestinian, continually attacking neighboring countries, and effectively murdering gay people as well (do you think the 2000 pound bombs make an exception for gay people?) and the other side is a theocracy with all the flaws that come with that. When it comes down to it, Israel is far, far worse than Iran. You can support parties you’re critical of.

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    Nobody is out there crowing about the superiority of Iran. Or how Iran is sooooooo great.

    It’s just schadenfreude. It’s a quadruple heroin overdose of schadenfreude directly in our veins. We’ve screamed and cried and protested and called reps and done everything we could for 2 years while watching a genocide live on TV. For 2 years.

    It’s very cathartic to see that evil genocidal pedophile colony get its shit rocked. I cheered watching a hypersonic missile hit the Israeli Pentagon and I’ll keep cheering.

    Israel hit first. They called it preemptive but it was premeditated. Big difference. They punched above their weight now the hit dog is hollering. The very moment Israel sues for peace and comes to the table with concessions I’ll support the violence coming to a negotiated end. And not a moment before. Until then. Pound them into fucking sand. Twist the goddamn knife.

    Chump can get involved if he wants but I won’t go die for Israel. Not for all the money held by the Forbes 500. If they call a draft I’ll dodge it.

    Iran has the right to defend itself.

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    Supporting Iran limits the ability of Israel to commit to their genocide, support Israel only enhances their capability to genocide and supporting neither only benefits Israel which make use of their partnership with the west

    Hate Iran all you want, despise them, that’s fine, but we need to pick anything at this point when the alternative is Israel

    It might be better for the gays in Israel, but what about the gays in Palestine, or simply the people within Gaza?

    You can reform a state to treat gay people like humans, you can’t reform a genocidal state