He *IS" a convicted, homegrown, American criminal himself! Literally.
Buy a gun. Train.
Get connected with others. Make sure they get armed. Train with them.
He can declare them criminals with his mind. More efficient than a trial.
This is very much how it’s going to happen.
How does this not anger the domestic prison industrial complex?
And of course we will never see these people again. This is so blatently illegal its fucking mind blowing.
47 doesn’t GaF. He’s already ignoring UNANIMOUS scotus rulings. The law has failed. Nobody in power is willing to enforce anything.
I guess we already filled up all of the for profit prisons in The Land of the Free.
Please build that wall so you stay where you are
With none of that pesky due process to determine who these “criminals” are I suppose.
Yes. That’s literally the only reason why you would do it.
This is already what has been happening. No “suppose” about it.
Isn’t Trump a convicted criminal? There would be a lot of happier people if they just sent him to El Salvador.
It’s not for people who were convicted. No due process allowed.
I thought Trump was expanding it to everyone. Probably including people in other countries he doesn’t like.
Hey we should all discuss it at length yet not actually do anything about it. Go team 'murica.
Ok, tell everyone your plan, what do you propose we do about it, specifically?
You remember a few years back when those Nazis took over your government for a day? Give that a go.
Sure, that’d work, great plan, why didn’t anyone else think of that!
Seemed to work out great for them. Just have a look around.
Oh I’m sure the response from our current regime would be as mild as it was for the fascists, sure they wouldn’t think of simply mowing people down en masse as soon as they even threatened to be storming the Capitol. Gimme a break, unreal that you think that this would be in any way effective whatsoever, it’s in fact exactly what the fascists are hoping for, they’d love nothing more than any reason for mass killing the opposition.
If you think that’s not about to happen anyway you’re a fool. And if you think this regime won’t be defeated by action not lawyers or politics and that many won’t be killed in the process you might as well start digging your grave now or go kiss the boot and get your uniform.
They’re going to start mowing people down who are storming the Capitol anyway? Hmm, what if people aren’t doing that? So, just to be clear, your plan is for people to just show up and start storming the Capitol? Cool cool, that’s what I was expecting, nothing.
Under no circumstances allow your US Citizen self to be illegally detained by ICE I guess.
Discussing begets knowledge, and knowledge is half the battle.
Bro’s talking about himself
In a sane country people would be ripping the piping from their walls to use as weapons against a regime like this. Instead most people just don’t notice or don’t care. I actually don’t see a future for my country anymore…
~people aren’t doing anything~
literally millions of Americans organizing nationwide protests and resistance events, uniting with friends and co-workers to strategize, with larger and larger turnouts with each passing week…
🤔🤔🤔
When people rise up without a clear plan or shared vision, they often end up reinforcing the very system they’re trying to challenge. That’s because the people in power already control the tools that shape our thinking—like the media, schools, and pop culture.
If we want real change, we need more than just passion. We need a shared understanding of what kind of world we’re trying to build. Otherwise, we risk repeating the same mistakes and rebuilding the same broken system in a different costume.
Capitalist ideas have had centuries to take root and evolve. They’ve got a head start and powerful platforms to keep spreading—TV, textbooks, social media, movies, everything. To challenge that, we need a complete shift in how we think about power, community, and freedom.
So here’s the big question: Is this shift happening? Can we see it in the protests, mutual aid networks, labor strikes, and grassroots organizing across the country?
If we believe it’s possible, then now’s the time to act—together, intentionally, and with clarity. Let’s build a new vision of society—one not handed down by the powerful, but created by us. Start by asking: What do you really want the future to look like? And who’s with you in building it?
An entirely spontaneous movement will end up reproducing the dominant ideology in a given society, because the dominant class has the means at its disposal to propagate and reproduce the dominant ideology.
So a revolutionary movement must know in advance what its revolutionary theory is; it must be united around a particular vision of society, a particular theory of revolutionary change, or it will simply reproduce the society that it is acting against.
Ideas that support capitalism have been around much longer than alternative ones, are more refined, and have way more tools to spread themselves—like the media, schools, and culture. A drastic change in structural thought is necessary.
Where is the evidence that this change in structural thought is actually occurring in the United States? How is this present in the dissent that has manifested thus far?
Oooh are they holding signs?
To attempt to overthrow a government by force that has, at its disposal, 5th generation multirole fighter aircraft, drones with Hellfire missiles, and an army of sycophants more than willing to gun down their brother and sister citizens is a fool’s errand for suicidal rubes.
Wildcat Strikes are de wei.
The military is not protecting them in their homes, on the way to their car, at a public event.
Lone wolf attacks on key Republican figures are the way.
First you organize millions across the country in protests. This is no small feat. Once you see you have the numbers, you organize a strike.
People would know this if they attended. It’s discussed often.
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Be the example then.
Which is not nothing but there’s a point there.
I haven’t seen a future for this country for a while now
I was hopeful that after 2020 we had learned our lesson but I was gravely mistaken…
Sadly we have to watch this dumpster fire go on while either planning to pick up the pieces once it’s over or you make a run for the border in hopes of saving yourself
I’m not gonna let myself be bullied out of my home by God’s biggest losers. I’m in a blue state so I’ll be okay for now. I’m also armed so I’ll be okay if or when shit hits the fan. I dont blame people who do leave but for me that’s just not in the cards.
I’m torn between wanting to stay and restore our country, and making sure my kids aren’t growing up in a place with a hamstrung education system, poor medical care, and a society increasingly steeped in hatred.
We’re trying to make sure we can keep our options open for them.
I don’t live in a blue state sadly, I can’t trust myself with a weapon because I know what would happen if I had one. So for me, I have to consider leaving everything behind just to be safe
And that’s perfectly okay. I envy you in a way. I’m too stubborn to give in to these fucking geeks and it could very well be my downfall in the coming years. I also have friends and family who can’t or don’t want to leave so if they’re staying then I’m staying. I also love my home city of Chicago too much to just abandon it lol.
So that’s how he’s going to make Mexico pay for a border wall!
2020 was the socially constructed preparation for this.
I hear this all over Lemmy. So which improvised weapons have you crafted to oppose this regime? It’s like you expect the rest of us to do it. Give your nutsack a tug and lead on.
Why improvise? I can walk into a store and leave with a rifle and armor piercing rounds
Well, this would be a noble start: Guerilla Shotgun
I suppose one could start hoarding glass bottles and gasoline/styrofoam gel.
I’ve done neither of those things, but I have read Mila 18 a bunch of times, so I guess there’s that. Oh, and I do have at least one board with a nail sticking out of it somewhere behind the shed.
So what are you doing as an American?
You expect the rest of the world to act for you, while you sit back and disparage people talking about a solution.
It seems that I must repeat this to non-Americans until the heat-death of the universe:
To attempt to overthrow a government by force that has, at its disposal, swathes of 5th generation multirole fighter aircraft, drones with Hellfire missiles, and an army of sycophants more than willing to gun down their brother and sister citizens is a fool’s errand for suicidal rubes.
Wildcat Strikes are de wei.
It seems Americas love fascism on their shores and refuse to fight it.
You are not fighting the military, you are fighting a few thousand rich old fucks with names and addresses.
I’m not asking for shit, 'cause I know none of you can do a damn thing.
Yeah because I’m not in your country, you are, and your inaction is allowing innocent people to suffer.
Look, I’m not going to take up arms against the government. Not going to happen.
You want people to invade state houses? What’s the goal here?
My Senators haven’t done shit to slow the administration down and I have a feeling they will pay for it. Bennet wants to be Governor but we can primary him. Hickenlooper is just as feckless as ever and I’ll try to primary him again too.
My Representative has been vocal about the administration and has been pointing affected constituents to various resources to help them. Not much else they can do in the House right now.
The goal is overthrowing fascism, or at the least crippling it into inaction. Taking out leadership achieves that.
Do not delude yourself that you’re going to win this at the polls, there will be no fair election to win. Trump has free rein to do as he pleases.
So which improvised weapons have you crafted to oppose this regime?
I’d say but I don’t want a visit from the alphabet boys
Sane take. Keep your head low and wait.
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I think the “smartest” thing the administration is doing is not giving us local targets in our cities. Much as I hate the local police, they aren’t complicit by default until it happens here. Once there are clearer local targets, you’ll see far more action.
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is this an option against the militarised police?
No. It is not weapons that will be effective, but tactics. I think the closest analogue would be the IRA, or any insurgency against the US in the middle east for more recent examples.
We knew they wanted to go in a fascist direction, but I doubt many of us imagined they’d have the concentration camps up and running within three months. Bukele says he won’t return anyone, even if innocent, from this prison in El Salvador, and the director of the prison says that no one who goes in will ever return to their community. So how do you keep shipping prisoners into a camp without any of them coming out, and without the camp filling up? Maybe we’re further along with the Nazi program than most people realize.
No, not quite “won’t return anyone even if they’re innocent”. It’s more old-school witch hunt circular logic than that. It’s “if they’re in the prison, it’s because they’re a terrorist, and I will never let a terrorist free”.
We’re on pace with Nazi Germany. If you use that as a template you’ll expect:
- Concentration camps in about 60 days (milestone reached)
- October we’re due to leave the UN/NATO
- Draft coming in 2027 if Trump remains in power
- In 2030 we’ll annex Greenland
- By September 2031 we will start WW3
Now a lot can change between now and then and Trump isn’t a young guy, but that’s the blueprint to watch.
You want to talk about concentration camps? We’re already expanding our own Black Site.
America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.
Our most famous black site, Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120, but that’s about to change. HitlerPig has already signed an executive order to build a 30,000 bed detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and a $249 billion contract has been awarded. This will be in a remote corner of an island controlled by a hostile enemy, far out of the prying view of the courts, or the media. Anything could happen there, and nobody at home would ever known about it.
So they are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That’s nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is already about 8 times larger than average. Clearly, they are intending to incarcerate far many people that they already do. I wonder who those people will be?
Perhaps the most worrisome piece of news is this: It is expected to be finished in 2030. Why would HitlerPig commit to such a facility if he wasnt going to be able to use it? Perhaps he expects to still be in power in 2030.
What a timeline to be in that our best hope is that it’s just another way to funnel money to his cronies
It’s not like Democrats couldn’t find a use for a 30,000 bed detention facility. Anyway, of course Trump is going for a third term.
We’re much further ahead than them. Unlike Nazi Germany we’re already the world’s undisputed hegemon and all of the world’s most advanced economies are aligned w us.
Even though some are starting to learn to regret it; they’re still more skeptical of China or Russia than they are of us and our military presence within their borders and their dependence on our financial system ensures that they won’t stray unless the bombs literally start flying and, by then, it’ll be too late.
Yeah obviously there are differences between 1933 Germany and 2025 USA, but it still takes time to do everything. Our hegemony is deteriorating, and the way I see it that’s more important for global reaction speed than internal change speed.
No one currently gives enough of a shit about owning Greenland to want to invade it. The draft is key and I don’t think you’ll see that until after the mid-terms due to the backlash. That would put us right on the above pace.
But this is all really speculative and I don’t have any particular insight or educational focus on Nazi Germany. I just grew up in the wake of it, my grandfather having fought in the pacific theater.
There are certainly better prognosticators than me to listen to, but at the end of the day it’s all guesswork.
our system has created enough mass desperation for force people to chose military service rather than living a future of destitution and that guarantees that we will never have another draft.
There is currently a recruiting crisis in 3/4 of the branches. A draft will be absolutely necessary to go to war.
oic, you’re thinking that ww3 will need to happen for the united states to take over, but the united states is already in charge and the only ww3 we might have is w china.
Did you account for how much faster everything is happening? He’s only been in office for nearly three months.
He was on pace for concentration camps, within a few days. He’s moving fast but it takes time to drag a nation to war. We have time to oppose him. We have time for him to choke on a hamberder. With each passing day things get worse, but at what point will we collectively go further than protest? Things have to get really bad before that reaches critical mass.
What a fucking mess we’ve created. You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?
Because until Trump voters start realizing what they’ve unleashed and start trying to take it back, nothing will stop him. So what’s the German blueprint for that? I don’t know.
You know who I always wonder about? Whatever happened to the Germans who voted for Hitler? At what point did they regret it? When he turned into a madman? Or not until the Soviet and western tanks rolled into town?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free
The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule, with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.
That’s unbelievably disappointing.
Nazis always gonna nazi. It should be regarded as a mental illness.
No. No I’m not allowing “I doubt many people knew this would happen” no. Plenty of us did nothing but scream for decades. You shooed us away. You sided with them because we were inconvenient to you.
You’re saying “you” to the people that were shouting it. You’re shouting into an echo chamber. Maybe go say it to them
I mean even people who were screaming didn’t think American democracy would start falling this quickly. I mean did you expect him to start arresting dissenters within a month and a half of his inauguration?
Speak for yourself
I mean did you expect him to start arresting dissenters within a month and a half of his inauguration?
Actually, yes. Absolutely. I read portions of P2025. I expected the insurrection act and martial law to happen by now, though. Not sure why it didn’t occur after the Hands Off demonstrations, except perhaps it would have meant more publicity and lent credibility to the opposition, which seems to have been intentionally ignored and marginalized by major media so far.
except perhaps it would have meant more publicity and lent credibility to the opposition, which seems to have been intentionally ignored and marginalized by major media so far.
This is one of the things bothering me the most. Yeah yeah owned by billionaires who support Trump. But this is our media, it’s one of the things I grew up being taught helped preserve our democracy.
And yet they spent years sanewashing Trump and are now failing to adequately cover the resistance to Trump.
Are those principled folks who resigned publicly the only ones who remember why they are here?
Capitalism ruined our media
Trump is a drama factory. Drama makes clickable headlines and glues eyes to screens. Trump is good for the business interests of news.
The timeline of the Nazi takeover is public and very clear. The project 2025 details were public and very clear. It was more of a “I didn’t want to believe it” and not “who could have known” thing. Which is understandable but clearly not the same.
Yes. I don’t believe much of anything he says, but “dictator on day one” was very obviously his real plan.
Yeah straight up assumed this was going to happen pretty much as it has been, I’m not even a yank and this was so so very obviously going to be the outcome…
Some of are still screaming and being unheard.
Plenty of us did nothing
excuse me for trying to save our democracy from tankies that were trying to delegitimize it
Everything that was supposed to come true under communism has come true under capitalism.
Another idiot who voted for a genocider lmao
What democracy? Shove it into your butthole
I will say, even despite me being the one constantly yelling about the incoming american fascism, I also though it’d take at least a little longer
But here we are, with most institutions and companies just rolling over. Sure, I figured it would happen, but I at least thought it’d take more than a year. Not… 3 months
It’s… I lack words, even. This is straight up nazi Germany, except we have the hindsight of history, and yet it’s still all for naught. Incredibly incredibly scary
Have you ever watched the movie Conspiracy depicting the Wannsee Conference? Things happen pretty quickly when bureaucrats are aligned and motivated. Suddenly they find a way to become organized beyond anyone’s wildest dreams.
wtf has everyone been doing the last decade to not see this coming
Dividing themselves on social media, arguing in echo chambers about identity politics, watching ever more violent professionally-filmed acclaimed series about intrigue, betrayals, power struggle, and post-apocalyptic dystopias. They’ve been watching an ungodly number of movies about superheroes and supervillains violently duking it out while the weak, passive, and powerless population watches helplessly…and the good guys usually win, leading the normies into a false sense of security that some higher power always watches over them and comes to their rescue.
Many have been watching 24/7 Faux Noose and OAN and allowed the televised onslaught of rhetoric to brainwash them into becoming party line repeating stations. The so-called second amendment advocates mostly seem to be in this camp (ironically, the camp that also seems to value the rise of tyranny, despite their claims of the 2A being an insurance policy).
Meanwhile, their opposition has been watching, waiting, and hoping the rule of law will hold the guilty accountable and restore that which is good for society, as they see it (i.e. rule of law being the omnipotent superhero). They feel dispassionate about most of ‘their’ political candidates, which aren’t all that rousing (minus a handful of the more passionate and competent with social media ones, which aren’t favorites of the DNC). There are many, many interest groups trapped in a competitive race to the bottom hoping to appear the most vulnerable, in-need, and important so as to receive the most attention and subsidies/grants/benefits.
Meanwhile, follow the money- corporate America wants fewer regulations and the ability to exploit labor as much as it can to maximize majority shareholder wealth.
And then there’s the foreign influence from powerful countries who would love to watch America collapse…
My question was rhetorical but yeah, magats are fucking losers and the dnc is fucking impotent
I don’t agree with your view of superheros. I think they work as a metaphor of any person brave enough to stand up to evil. People never imagine they are the powerless population. The films focus on the heros and people personify with them - it’s inspirational. There has also been a big stress on heros needing to team up lately. The movies did nothing wrong. I agree with everything else though.
Super heroes are an individualist power fantasy. In the real world , real power comes from groups and collective action. Super hero stories imagine a world where the power to do good resides in the individual.
I believe it’s a reaction to our powerlessness in the face of things like this.
But even to take action in a group, you have to make the individual decision to join. You have to chose for yourself, which takes individual bravery, because even if you’re part of a group, the responsibility and potential repercussions will be yours to deal with. A group always consists of individual people. I read superhero stories as stories about finding the bravery in yourself (the superpower) to go and join the good cause despite the terrible danger.
I agree with what you’re saying, philosophically. A group is just a framework we put around individuals. That’s how it works in the real world.
But the idea of being able to have an impact on my own has a special appeal for me personally. It’s not a practical thing, which is why it’s escapism.
I think superhero movies, as well all the many movies where a team of misfits overcome their difficulties to save the day when the USA faces disaster, are just American self-mythologizing. Americans like stories that show how deep down they are strong and sensible and when the chips are down they come together as a team to take care of the world, but in reality they’re not that at all. The problem is they believe their own myths.
eating mcdonalds and watching tv
Telling people not to let the Republicans get the trifecta?
That’s really all that needed to happen.
I’m referring more to the people who are taken by surprise that all this is happening like in the headline
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MAGA are going straight to Krystallnacht, but it’s ok because Bernie went to Coachella.
Kristallnacht, but as that is the Nazi term and euphemistic at that, pls use the official term Reichsprogromnacht
Was his set good?
Straight up fire, fam.
This is getting out of hand
Trump should be first in prison shouldnt he…
