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    with Harris’ team unsuccessfully pushing for both candidates’ microphones to stay on even when it was not their turn to answer.

    Wait a minute, Harris’ team was the one pushing for always-on mics? That’s actually such a flex lol.

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      Not really. It was always her tactic to make him go nuts. Provoking him into shouting over her would have gone along with that and just made him look bad.

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      I think it would have been a smart choice. The rationale behind muting was trying to force both parties to having a nice, civil discussion, to force decorum upon the proceedings that formerly was just a given, but generally not respected by Trump, by his nature.

      However one part of the first debate was that the muting might have saved Trump from his own worst impulses. To be sure, Biden made his own problems that were far far worse, but part of Trump looking relatively reasonable in his conduct that night was being forced only to speak in turn.

      Slam dunk is if you let him put his unhinged nature and unreasonable behavior on full display, while also managing to manage him so that you are still heard.

      I would not be surprised if a career in the courtroom dealing with all manner of hard to deal with people is the best prep anyone could ask for to deal with a personality like Trump.

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    Calling it now:

    Since there’s not enough time left for him to recover from this brutal ego bruise, I predict he’ll only do rallies from now on, or appearances on far-right media, because he’ll retreat to his snowglobe for reassurance for a while. He’ll avoid addressing Kamala directly, but he’ll ramp up his own network and rile up his mob. His team will struggle to rein him in, and some appearances might be cancelled.

    e: once he gets tired of being reassured, he’ll double-down on the unhinged scale

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      This would be a good time for Kamala to keep asking for a debate and challenging him. Maybe even agree to do it on Fox to show how weak he is. Even if he accepted, I don’t think Fox would save him from another bad performance. We’ll see how polling works out I guess.

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      He also has a habit of rewatching things like that, and I suspect it has made him bitter. Well, more bitter.

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    Someone needs to build a huge projection screen outside his rat infested removed in Florida, and every night he’s there, replay the debate for him.

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      Project chickens onto Trump tower. It’ll hit the news, he’ll see it, and it’ll push him into another debate. His people can’t control him. The might be able to manipulate him to some extent (e.g., “you don’t need to debate again, you won. What else is there to say/do? All you could do is lose. Leave it on the W.”). So, if you goad him enough, hell agree to another one.

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        I will chip in if someone sets up a GoFundMe to do exactly this

        Like, how much could it possibly cost to hire someone in NYC to do this for a few hours some night? Surely this is a crowdfundable amount.

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      I’m not saying to release a bunch of chickens in Mar-a-Lago and let them go feral like Ybor city. But then again, I’m also not saying not to.

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    Well, as he said, he certainly won the first one. I don’t know why he wouldn’t wanna keep racking up wins. Unless, maybe he’s embarrassed to have been manipulated right… the fuck over… by… a… woman.

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    That’s hilarious. What a pathetic weakling running home with his tail between his legs 😂😂😂

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    She needs to still show up as scheduled, say that just because trump won’t make time for the American people doesn’t mean she will ignore them

    Either he takes the bait and shows up, or she dominates the news cycle now, before the debate, during the debate, and after it

    The whole time trump won’t be able to talk about anything besides the debate and how it’s not “fair”.

    It’s the common sense move, so I’ll be surprised to see it, but I hope they do.

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      She needs to still show up as scheduled, say that just because trump won’t make time for the American people doesn’t mean she will ignore them

      That reminds of the 2020 presidential election in Poland when both candidates did exactly what you describe - they debated at the same time but in separate studios. And the story how it came to that is wild.

      This was after the first round of the elections (where two candidates are selected for the second round), which involved things like last-minute rescheduling of the elections, last-minute candidate swap and effectively throwing away 20 million dollars of public money. Currently there are several criminal investigations conducted against people involved in organisation of that first round. And of course it was all in the middle of the pandemic. So the political chaos was at its absolute peak.

      The two candidates were the country’s president representing then ruling party and capital city’s mayor representing then biggest opposition party. Both of course wanted the debate. The issue was that then ruling party turned the public broadcaster into a party propaganda machine compared by experts to that created by Goebbels. And the core of that propaganda was that the second biggest (private) broadcaster in Poland (owned by Discovery Group) is anti-Polish and cannot be trusted.

      Both broadcasters offered they can organise the debate. The private one I believe was also willing to jointly host it. But the ruling party candidate couldn’t agree to a debate hosted by the private broadcaster because that would significantly impact the propaganda and expose his many wrongdoings to the manipulated ruling party voters.

      On the other hand, the opposition candidate couldn’t agree for the debate hosted only by the public broadcaster because that would effectively be 2 hours of him trying to deny lies spread by hosts and the other candidate.

      The 2nd round was coming close and no compromise has been found. So on the same day the two broadcasters prepared their studios for two candidates with audience. Ruling party candidate went to public broadcaster, opposition candidate to private one. Both declared the other as a “no-show” and proceeded to have a “debate” with hosts and audience.

      Few days later the opposition candidate lost by a small margin.

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      Make it a town hall. We really do need to hear questions and answers of serious topics now that the clown has left the big top.

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        This is a far better option. Holding a debate without the other candidate is fodder for Trump to do the same on ONN or Fox News. But holding a town hall and inviting Trump as an optional attendee would create engagement, and either Trump will ignore it, join the same one, or hold his own and most likely screw up his own.

        Win, win, win.

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            “Mr. Trump, people are saying immigrants are flooding across our borders to eat our pets before receiving sexual reassignment surgery in prison. Do you have a concept of a plan how to deal with this?”

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            It looks like he already had at least one called a town hall coordinated with FOX News a week ago. It looks like he only answered questions from Hannity and not the audience full of supporters, so they couldn’t even pull off the handpicked shills pretend town hall format.

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      The moderator should also ask the empty podium the same question they just asked Harris, with a brief pause to emphasize that he is a no-show.

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      Just treat the debate as normal, but they just swap to the empty podium where Trump should have been.

      After the debate they say Trump showed a marked improvement this time.

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      I agree. Trump did a townhall when Harris didn’t show up to the first proposed the debate, she should do a townhall to replace the next one if Trump ultimately does not show. It’d be a great way to quell complaints that she is afraid of speaking to the media or press as well.

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        To qualify as a proposed debate it would have to be a proposal that a reasonable bystander would take seriously.

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      Trump is on tape telling people in the room that the only person he’s afraid of is Sanders.

      Fast forward to now and he’s apparently added Harris to that list. It’s beautiful.

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            His policies are obviously great, we all know this. But you can’t go into a hostile environment like a Fox News Town Hall and completely dominate proceedings on policy alone.