The Democrats were never our friend. The Republicans are merely worse.
You know, I’ve held my opinions about Donald Trump but he really couldn’t have gotten to the point he has without the help of good ol’ Hillary Rodham.
hosted by an Israeli newspaper on Tuesday that young Americans were becoming sympathetic toward Palestinians because they watch “totally made up” videos of the horrors in Gaza on social media.
The videos broadcast by mainstream news outlets of Israel’s war crimes are fake?
I’m so sick of reading this shit from liberals. It took less than a year for them to sound like Republicans did a year ago.
And Democrats decided she was a better option than Bernie.
Their donors did, and the Dem party obeyed.
Who picked this scab and got it oozing again?!!
What a thoroughly awful human being.
This kind of thing is why she loat an election to Donald Trump of all people. She had the easiest race in history, but failed because she is a deeply unlikable shill
Biggest loser. And apparently only gives third rate blow jobs.
Her worst transgression
I’d be ok if we could all act like not a fucking thing this publicity hag says matters.
Honestly, I could totally dig having never seen this article or discussion.
If anybody’s brain has gone rotten by the algorithm it’s Hillary’s. I’m upset people are arranging a stage and microphone just to ask her about her worst possible stances, at some point it’s gotta be considered elder abuse.
people are arranging a stage and microphone just to ask her about her worst possible stances, at some point it’s gotta be considered elder abuse.
Lmao my bizarre ADHD brain made me think this meant people were trolling her by setting up the stage and microphone in awkward ways so she’d have to answer in uncomfortable positions, and I was kinda all for that.
I should sleep lol.
Honestly if the Clinton’s (Hillary specifically) could just shut the fuck up forever we would all be better off.
Well not so fast - I wanna hear from bubba on whether orange mussolini gives toothy head or not
A-fucking-men to that.
These fucking over-privileged cunts have already screwed us so badly it’ll take decades to recover if we even can at this point. They both need to shut up and get the fuck out.
Is this the new Hasbara talking point being pushed by Israel PR? First that Obama speechwriter says it and now Hillary
“Totally made up”
Does she not realize literally anyone can go to Google Maps and see a flattened city?
They’re going to have to fix that for US users, like the Bay of America
Excuse me, it’s the Gulf of America! And don’t you forget it!
salutes the flag, dramatic music plays, fireworks go off, and everyone claps as a single tear falls from my patriotic eye
Needs more bald eagles.
And golden toilets.
Nah those buildings just uh all fell down by themselves . Total coincidence.
Recently Israeli settlres attacked the christian village of taibeh and set fire to a bunch of the town and the church of st george, and destroyed the water system. Then when accused of it they claimed they hadnt done it and the christians had torched their own village and destroyed their own water supply.
I’m not so much pro-Palestine as anti-Israel if that makes sense. I realize the conflict is complex and they’ve all been horrible to each other for as long as anyone can remember, but Israel’s bullshit has gone too far. It’s inevitable to side with the Palestinians who have to live in terror every single day.
Calling it complex only serves Israeli agenda.
The issue is simple - No amount of complexity justifies a genocide.
Saying the history isn’t complex is just stupid though. You can identify that the history is complex without taking away from the fact that there’s a genocide going on.
I can concede that the conflict can present “complex” at first glance due to some Palestinians taking arms and themselves doing some heinous acts.
But this is all downstream of an illegal occupation by Israel. This conflict really isn’t that complex. End the illegal occupation, then you can reasonably expect violent resistance to die down and to talk your way through it.
You’re only thinking about the violence aspect, but we’re more discussing the geopolitics of the region. It’s not only complicated because Palestinians defended themselves— that kind of thinking is what serves Israel. It’s complicated because there is a long history of border drawing by colonialists, incoming and outgoing governments, a history of backstabbing particularly by the Israelis…complex news doesn’t serve anyone but just accurately describes a geopolitical conflict.
The illegal occupation has been going for decades. Yes, there is a lot of individual political events.
But I don’t see how a macro analysis can end any ways other than “shits happened during this colonization of Palestine; Israel, UK and US are to blame for most evil shit”.
…but my point is explaining how everyone is complicit and how things have gotten to where they are is a long and complex history. Saying it’s complicated and saying Israel has committed genocide are not mutually exclusive. Most people actually don’t understand it, or could give a half accurate representation of the situation if asked. And that includes people who claim to have strong feelings, whether true or otherwise. In fact I’d argue asking really any follow up questions would leave a majority stumped, only a minority could give you more. It’s complex, end of. All genocides actually are. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re genocides.
Yeah this is it right here, said more elequently than I could have managed lol
Palestine needs support, and the rhetoric that its a complex or morally grey situation just needlesly complicates and delays progress.
No, you can acknowledge that complexity of the conflict and history without condoning Israel’s actions.
Discouraging people from appreciating nuance and encouraging them to think about a complex problem simplistically (as you are doing) is what tends to serve an agenda.
I agree with you, but I think you’re taking one idea to leverage another to arrive at a conclusion that I’m not promoting. The other commenters seem to have interpreted well what I’m trying to say.
So…is she seriously trying to claim that Israel bombing Gaza into rubble over the last two years was all just “fake news”? Is she stupid, or does she just think everyone else is?
yes and yes.
There are some people that are in the positions of power they are in because of the inaccurate world views they hold. There are “morally good” people that uphold the structures of power (but rarely those with actual power) because they genuinely believe they are doing what is good for humanity.
Hilary Clinton is not one of those people. She is not “stupid”. She is a genuinely morally bankrupt human being.
She’s getting a nice kickback from all the US investments (both public and private) into Israel. It’s that simple. Money talks. Dead children don’t.
I think the claim is supposed to be that the parts of it that makes Israel look bad are what’s fake. Like the proof of them bombing civilians, or of their soldiers having called shot sniping contests on literal fucking kids. She seems to be claiming that we’re seeing fake videos that are showing Israel killing civilians rather than the dangerous Hamas militants they are and it’s brainwashing us into being anti-Israel.
Sometimes the elderly have trouble adapting familiar concepts which have changed. She thinks of Israel as this small democratic state of people returned to their ancestral homeland beset by enemies from all sides, like under the leadership of PM Rabin, she can’t process the new information that Israel headed by a brutal ethnic cleansing dictator is trying to kill off 2 million people, majority women and children, to create beachfront property.
Reminding us how Trump won I see. Glad she opened her mouth, too many people are still trying to lionize her.
It was a bad decision to even put her up as a candidate. She had been demonized by the right for years prior to the election. They literally polarized the entire right to vote against her.
That’s completely irrelevant, they demonize every Dem. It was a bad decision to put her up as a candidate because she’s a giant asshole and not a talented enough liar to cover it up.
Exactly. Trump didn’t win by courting centrists. He energized entirely new voters (albeit with racism).
Democrats insist that perpetually leaning further into corporatism and imperialism and abandoning marginalized groups like trans people and immigrants will win the “likely voters”.
A real winning strategy would be to have policies that actually inspire people and turn out new voters.
That would assume they actually want what they say they want though, instead of being controlled opposition.
Really it’s corporate Democrats trying to court corporate donors. It has close to nothing to do with this being the policy to win over voters. Imo, it’s why the corporate Dems need to be primaried out by progressives.
A corporate Dem is still a marginally better than having Republicans in office, only because they’re focused on personal greed rather than personally causing the pain.
Indeed. Gulags of work are more inclusive with a Dem. The boot is a wide boot crushing everyone.
Corporate Dems care enough that you’re not starving, but not enough so that you’re not living out of your car or relying on the government for some of your needs. Many of the Corporate Dems probably do care to an extent, but green is what matters most to many so if you have a pulse it’s okay!
she’s a giant asshole and not a talented enough liar to cover it up.
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They demonize zorhan as well, the problem is Clinton (like 95% of the republicans) simply believes whatever her donors tell her.
she was always the “lesser of the evils” candidate. For once the dems need to actually give us a good non-corporate fueled, actually, socially aware and empathetic, candidate. Otherwise the party is done and its probably for the best.
drumpf is the kid on the bus you could get to do anything. the dems and republicans are all the other kids. they’re creating infrastructure for a forecasted 25% unemployment rate among college grads and the subsequent social unrest that will follow. Classism 101
No, it’s because they watch tiktoks made by IDF soldiers
