Who ever thought punk was not progressive? At minimum it was blatantly anti-authoritarian and counter to the conservative culture in Thatcher’s UK and Reagan’s US. Why would anyone be shocked to find out that it was also pro-choice, feminist, and anti-discriminatory?
Some people just like the music and are either bad at media analysis or don’t care enough to look into to further than the surface level.
Like Paul Ryan loving Rage Against The Machine.
Because the right have been carefully spending decades rewriting history and dumbfucks keep falling for it. Punk, doctor who and ratm were never conservative but pundits will tell you at great length how shocked and appalled they are when these things keep being left af
Doctor Who? The television show ran by the british government?
Yes, terribly woke
I mean a pretty popular punk song is NOFX Ronnie and Mags. It just talks incredible shit about Regan and thatcher. Listen to NOFX Jesusland and that should indicate what it’s all about. Damn I love punk.
Thanks for making me discover some punk songs.
Some people are weird.
Cause the majority of people on this planet are idiots?
Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title for most people who weren’t actually interested in punk. The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.
That’s new to me. Where I live, punks and skinheads are natural enemies
Like skinheads and goths, or skinheads and greasers, or skinheads and other skinheads
Labor skinheads and neonazi skinheads.
I was so sad when I discovered the Hammerskins were a thing (a White Power band inspired by Pink Floyd’s Waiting For The Worms, but without the irony, with a corresponding militant movement). The Hammerskins took their logo:
From the Hammers banner from the movie version of Pink Floyd’s The Wall
Which means when I reference the Hammers in parody of white power movements, I risk being associated with an actual white power movement.
If they had balls, they’d call themselves The Worms.
<looking up to make sure The Worms isn’t a social movement yet>
Obligatory “Nazi punks fuck off”
It’s one of those things I don’t mind seeing over and over. It makes for a good song too.
The Right hated Rock and Roll back in the 1950s because you had white kids listening to dangerous ‘race music.’
Same with rap in the 90-00s and even still to this day to some extent.
And I’m pretty damned sure some moderate liberals were wrapped up in it as well. It is America after all, where everyone’s a judgmental bigot.
The stickers on albums about parental guidance is absolutely moderate liberals being jackasses
Moderate liberals = neoliberals = conservatives.
Most notably Tipper Gore, yes.
Dee Snider calling out Tipper to her face in front of her husband was the best part of the PMRC Senate hearings.
As the creator of “Under the Blade,” I can say categorically that the only sadomasochism, bondage, and rape in this song is in the mind of Ms. Gore.
I love seeing stuff like this, but I absolutely HATE that we are all still fighting for these rights and such basic shit is not long since codified into law. What the fuck.
As long as conservatives continue to breathe the air of the living, there will be oppression.
*the rich
It’s so ridiculous that part of me always thinks it must be a cynical evil distraction while all they really care about is continuing to transfer wealth from those already with less to those already with more. Because of course decent people care way more about human rights than a couple percentage points in their tax rate.
But I guess it doesn’t matter what truly motivates these supposed puppet masters when the hate around the world is very real.
It’s crazy how like delusioned people are Like punk is all about punching Nazis and Star wars has always been political The empire is basically a Nazi analog
Like come on man
Basically what happened is some people started to pretend good art has absolutely no politics in it, except they decided what constitutes as politics, usually giving free pass to the “offensive humor” types like South Park and iDubbz.
damn I had to look up what idubbz is and it just… seems so unappealing
why are all these YouTube “celebrities” so lame is it really just cause they happened to be appealing to tweens when cell phones were invented
The appeal of iDubbz back in the content cop days was that it was unfiltered and gritty. I never much cared for the jackass style shock factor things he did together with filthy Frank but he was the king of burning down vapid youtube one-day-wonders like ricegum.
It has a huge “you had to be there” factor nowadays though in my opinion. I have never felt compelled to go back and rewatch anything because it just doesn’t seem to fit into this era of the internet.
Star Trek has gone woke is the one that gets me. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield was not subtle and by the time of Far Beyond the Stars they weren’t bothering with analogs.
TNG had an episode centered on discrimination of non-typical gender identity and conversion therapy over 30 years ago.
TBF, Avery Brooks fought like hell to get Far Beyond The Stars as uncomfortable as it was. Berman and the network wanted it to be a trite little story about a sci-fi writer; almost all the racism, discrimination, etc was Brooks pushing back on them.
Far Beyond the Stars is my absolute favorite, It’s Only a Paper Moon is a close second. DS9 is top tier sci-fi in my book.
The Empire is America, the rebels were the Vietcong. Lucas has said this specifically in multiple interviews. The Nazis helped with the uniforms, but The Empire is directly based on Wilsonian Doctrine.
Here, you seem to be running low: . . . .
Don’t forget Star Trek.
My favourite is when conservatives complain that Rage Against The Machine has gotten too political.
And then they go after Tom Morello without realizing he has a political science degree.
https://x.com/tmorello/status/1270419869524094976
“Scott, what music of mine that you were a fan of didn’t contain ‘Political BS’? I need to know, so I can delete it from the catalog”
- Tom Morello
They think Killing in the Name is a celebration of how things should be.
Another picture:
And a better shot of the yellow pin, since it’s at a weird angle:
Link to the music video in which the jacket appears (albeit without the pins).
God DAMN does Noel Fielding pull off the Joan Jett look.
She rocked the pink and black equally well.
Thanks for the yellow pin picture. Surprisingly few direct matches for that phrase. Harvard has record of a shirt of the same design:
That music video rocks!
If you want a good laugh, ask a boomer what woke means, they have no idea
“Is the woke in the room with us right now?”
“Point on this dolly where the woke hurt you.”
“Point on the gender neutral dolly where the woke hurt you”
it’s understandable that they don’t
If you ask a millennial then woke is a sarcastic term for someone who cares about fake social issues: like needing to stop gay marriage for society to exist
If you ask a zoomer then woke is a non-sarcastic term for someone who cares about real social issues: like needing to permit gay marriage so people can be equal
Obviously the zoomers are wrong about the term because they came after but enough of them use the term that way that it is no longer wrong
I’m a millennial, woke to me has always meant having your eyes open to see the bullshit in front of you.
Neat
Brought to you by the people that think Star Trek is too woke these days.
WOKENESS? In MY Utopian Space-Communist future!?
Special thanks to Discovery for putting the Gay front and center in the Fully-Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism of Star Trek.
It’s more likely than you think
Star Trek isn’t woke enough these days.
TNG had Picard give a speech to a person from the past about how the Federation was able to accomplish so much only because society stopped being oriented around the accumulation of wealth.
Discovery had a character praise Elon Musk for being a pioneer.
To be fair to Discovery I think that was written before Musk had completely (or at least publicly) gone off the deep end, but even at the time I thought it was extremely stupid to have a character praise an early 21st century oligarch in the same sentence that they mention actual inventors and engineers.
That’s only six pieces of flair.
The bare minimum is 15 pieces of flair. This is unacceptable.
Reminds me of a video of conservative rage fans learning that rage is progressive.
They are so woke, their wokeness needs to be in a fucking museum!
It’s almost as if they don’t give a damn about their bad reputation.
Also, there is a need for this Video in this thread.
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War, war never changes
Joan Jett has about as much right to comment on what punk is as I do
Some people liked her song.
People can like her song (although, it’s way more punk if you hate it), she’s just never been punk.
I agree, that’s why I said song and didn’t pluralize it. She’s always been overrated.
