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    To paraphrase another Twitter post, “AI uses the same amount of power per day as Guatemala for the sole purpose of making kinda acceptable slide decks for consultants to use when telling other corporate types how many people to fire”

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    The irony here is most AI is “mundane” and not diffusion or LLM AI.

    For instance… the “AI” X is using to produce feeds ingest posts, serve ads and such.

    X, Facebook and so on are the real villains here, and Mastadon, Lemmy, and (I guess?) Bluesky are the heroes, skipping all that attention optimization nonsense.

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    79 °F (26 °C)?! That’s the unbearable temperature you need the AC for. If that was the limit, there’d be no point in having it, at least where I am. 20 °C (68 °F) is room temp and comfortable, although I’d prefer 18 °C (64 °F).

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          I’m built for the artic, I run a window a/c at night set at 62 even though we have central air, and I use it in the winter too. I work too hard to be uncomfortable in my home.

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            I feel you. We don’t have AC, but have the bedroom window open at night from April and a fan on all night from May.

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      My electricity company says 76 is a good target, and I’ve grown accustomed to it. If sedentary, it actually feels a little cold. People acclimate to their local climate (last summer, daily highs were 100-110 for something like 3 months straight where I live).

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        God I hate global warming. 76 °F (24.5 °C) would traditionally be the hottest summer temp overall. Now we get above 30 sometimes even here in Scandinavia, and it’s absolutely unbearable when you’re not used to it.

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      In the Caribbean, people laugh at you if it’s 26C and you turn a fan on.

      But that’s where it’s hot to slightly cool for the entire year. You can get used to that. Where I live, it can go anywhere from 35C to -17C throughout the year. As soon as you’re used to one extreme, it’s over and you head towards the other extreme.

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      Where i live in central Europe most houses dont have ACs and 20 years ago during the hottest times of summer you’d reach that indoors with keeping blinds shut and airing out at night. Nowadays 30°C+ indoors as hottest summer temperatures is pretty common. At 26°C you can still function somewhat. Especially when you are used to these temperatures it is still fine for office work.

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      I guess it would depend of humidity level. I lucky enough to not have very humid warmer temperature where I am, but I could imagine how it could be a problem in other part of the world.

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      I prefer it colder when I sleep, but am usually comfortable up until about 72°F (22°C) during the day. But I live in the Southeastern US, so hot (and humid) is something you adapt to.

      Outside, it’s currently 93°F (~34°C), humidity of 55% and the “feels like temp” is 105°F (40.6°C). We’re under a heat advisory until 19:00, which is common in the summer

      Unfortunately… the new place I’m renting has an A/C that can’t keep up. Sometimes, it’ll reach 79°F (26°C) with the A/C just running up my electric bill non-stop. It’s somehow bearable though, and doesn’t feel as hot as I would expect, so that’s good. Blackout curtains, some fans, and a portable A/C in one room if you need to cool back down (like after a shower); it’s manageable/comfortable enough, until we can find something else.

      It’s not my preference, but I guess being acclimated to the heat down here at least helps a bit. Can’t wait to move somewhere a little more arid, maybe with a true 4 seasons kind of weather

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        Why would you need to cool down after a shower? Showers have usually have the possibility to dispense cold water.

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          Swede here, even 23 degrees (Celsius of course) is pretty hot when it’s in the sun and it’s not windy.

          It’s not terribly hot or anything but it’s still hot.

          If there is no wind and it’s very sunny it’s hot and on the edge of being uncomfortable in normal clothes.

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        Its only hot when youre used to living in the northern climates. Here in texas its quite comfortable after a long day outside

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        Maybe for you. I have worked and lived in 100+ degree temps for decades so i guess have become used to it. 72 actually brings me to shivers if im not moving around in it.

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          I guess we all operate a little differently, been in tx and surrounding for decades too. I’d trade, I wish I wasn’t sweating at 80, would save on my electric bill

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    Kinda wish the people I rent from would do this. They keep theirs at like 65 and I’ve been freezing my nuts off in their basement all summer. It’s their house and they deserve to be comfortable in it but damn. It’s a good excuse to keep active I guess.

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    Can we stop with the AI misinformation? AI is not slurping up consumer power. All major tech companies use privately generated, non-consumer power.

    Bitcoin is still causing these power grid issues. It has been since 2019.

    Edit: to the brainturds downvoting without even looking into it, read it from the source

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    We need more AIs not humans. Perhaps try living life like people do in third world. They never complain about dying from heat because they aren’t a pampered candy ass who get spoiled spoonfed.

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    80 degrees with your windows open and a slight breeze is nicer than 70 degrees with them all shut

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    Same with water usage. Everybody has to reduce water, not wash cars while industry and agriculture who use like ¾ of the water don’t do anything

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          Wait a sec, how do they consume water for cooling, i thought it’s in a closed loop as its purpose is only transferring heat

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            If you live in a low humidity area you can cool with an evaporative cooler cheaper than with air con. Evaporative coolers consume quite a bit of water

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            Some facilities is do this. They’re not 100% efficient, so some is lost to evaporation, some must be dumped because it has too much mineral content (and too much conductivity) to go back through the cooling system. Reusing is only about 50% efficient (according to Google’s numbers).

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            On a standard PC, you can easily have a loop because the radiator is big enough to exhause all that heat. But when your computer or cluster puts out multiple thousands of watts of heat, eventually you need to get rid of tge hot water and replace it with cold water. And when it gets even hotter, you need a steady stream of cold water that immediately gets dumped.

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            Half a liter per kilowatt hour. That’s the average water use

            It’s like the idea of recycling plastics with water.
            Not all of it is reusable to the same degree. A good portion of water has to be evaporated off to cool down the exterior towers plus water isn’t really infinitely usable in these loops. It gets gross or full of materials.

            Another thing that people need to remember is generating electricity uses the water here as we literally don’t use many methods that don’t involve water, we are not on a green grid and neither are these huge data centers for the most part. We boil it for the electricity then have to use additional to clean the system after.

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            Not really. Look at California agriculture. You’ve got immense and unsustainable amounts of water going to almonds, pistachios, and other cash crops (not to mention animal feed for the Saudis) with voracious demand for more water, despite it causing damage to the water sources.

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              The big problem crop for water in California is almonds.

              The big problem crop for water in Australia is cotton.

              The big problem crop for water anywhere is not beef

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        The US massively overproduces food. We absolutely can afford to not water some of those crops.

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          lol fresh food is like all public health and wellbeing is non existent unless its been heavily industrialised to make as much money out of it as possible.

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            Farmers’markets exist but in many cases they’re more expensive than buying at the grocery store. At any rate we already pay Ag corps to leave land fallow so the West and Mid West doesn’t get over farmed again. Telling them to water only 95 percent of their cash crops shouldn’t be a problem.

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              You can just… not wash your car. It literally doesn’t matter. If water rationing is in effect, washing your car should be the least of your concerns.

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                Not washing cars results in long term damage to the car. If you have a 200k mile shitbox with peeling clear coat, sure, you don’t need to wash it because it probably won’t matter.

                If you have something nice with good paint, washing is an important maintenance item

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                If you don’t wash your car and you’ll get corrosion from the salt on the road. If you live where it snows of course.

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                  This person is talking about being from the desert, so yeah, no sympathy here. The Fremen could figure out that water shouldn’t be wasted when it’s scarce.

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                I don’t care about washing my car. I care that they’re moderating our car washing while allowing foreign businessmen to use as much water as they want on hay that gets exported. And that could be fine if they were doing it in the Mid West. No, they’re doing it in Phoenix, Arizona. A region that knows it’s counting down to a zero day.

                So while I’m not washing my car, they shouldn’t be watering those crops.

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            If the cars are overused that means they require more maintenance, not less. I want walkable places but that’s not the argument to make lol