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I’m really confused as to why ‘Russians’ are generalized as the last domino here
Like, could have easily been ‘Putin’, but even then are we content with stopping at removing despots? Let’s at least aim a bit higher, maybe ‘oligarchy’, or even ‘capital owners’ if we’re being ambitious.
Yeah. I’ve no problem with the Russian civilians as an American. But I do have a problem with Putin as he seems intent to make himself everyone’s problem just like our wannabe dictators.
Fuck Tesla. Fuck Elon. Fuck Trump. Fuck corpo pigs
Right now Canadians and Europeans are wondering “How do we stop America”. And, as an American, I’m certainly not going to obsess over splitting hairs there.
I don’t think there’s any kind of international aggression these days where it should be implied we’d “go after the civilian population”. Sadly, Israel disagrees.
Capitalism. Everyday russians have nothing to do with the problem.
Because for a disturbingly large segment of the American population, the Cold War staying cold made it not really register as over.
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Americans must externalize their own internal contradictions onto Russia. Liberals be scape-goating.
It should say Kremlin, imo.
I hope there will be revised version soon. I really like the style it delivers the message.
It’s really just X. Focus on X imo.
You mean Twitter, right?
man. i dont think any of this would be happening if people weren’t fucking lazy and just voted in November. like god damn who cares if the line is long for one night.
People don’t know how to participate in a democracy, it’s ridiculous.
If millions upon millions of people in your country want to vote far right, you’re not going to get Bernie, you have to compromise. You pick the one that has the most likelihood of pulling your country in the direction you want, because the alternative is that you don’t get anything at all. You can’t be entitled, because you have to share your country with 350 million other people. Fucking compromise or get fascism.
There are numerous ideological and philosophical frameworks that attempt to explain how fascism takes rise, so why do you just blame it on laziness?
Did Hitler come to power because of German industrialization, German embarrassment from WWI, the great depression, and other global economic hardships, or did Hitler come to power simply because Germans were lazy and didn’t vote?
Our turn towards fascism was inevitable, and it can be explained better than with some nebulous concept of “laziness”.
At the very minimum, start asking yourself why Americans are not enthusiastic about voting.
Because laziness gave it the win.
Lots of things can give rise to fascism, but when people stay at home they give it a free pass to take control. We had the easiest chance of hitting the brakes.
Voting is EASY.
All we had to do was vote. If trump doesn’t leave then it’s going to cost lives to change. Damn fool to think otherwise.
Voting May be easy where you are. But it’s literally made difficult in a lot of places. If you are new to Texas for example, getting registered to vote is a whole ordeal. It involves ancient websites to check your registration status and then if you find out you aren’t registered, you have to go to another website, fill out a bunch of information and then you have to print it out, sign it and then mail it in. And if you made any mistakes you won’t find out for 10-15 days as the mail has to get to them, they have to look it over and then they mail you a response to tell you there are errors. On top of all of that, they have a system where they pay people to report voter registration that are suspected to be fraudulent and those registrations generally get purged without notifying the voter. So if you were a false positive (many people are) and then you find out the day you go to vote that you aren’t registered, you just don’t get to vote that year.
Harder than fascism?
Yeah, I know they go out of their way to make it hard in democratic and minority strongholds. But that’s not everyone.
Why were people lazy?
Voting is EASY.
It is MADE to be difficult in some places purposefully. There are many ways it is done and nobody is talking about it. I don’t understand why it’s so unknown and such a ‘nonissue’
Yeah, did those places lose the election? You’re the second person to point out nebulously that it’s difficult to vote in some locarions (yeah, I’m aware), but without qualification that it was those places that cost us the election. Overall, people stayed home.
Doesn’t that moreso snooze fascism instead of stopping it?
We’ll never know for sure in this case. It’s still a 4 year reprieve, and trump could have died in those four years.
They purged voter roll, but only for democrats.
Technically legal.
That happens every single election. How about, instead of attacking people who are rightfully unconvinced this system works, you attack the people actually doing the fascism.
You’re like a fuckin’ Russian bot, only helping to divide. Fuckin’ dumbass democrats, man. This is why you lose.
You insult this person and accuse them and dividing, only to say “fuckin Democrats, this is why you always lose”.
Who’s dividing here again, chum? Practice what you preach
I’m not a Democrat and I share their sentiment.
80 million of y’all didn’t show up and instead of looking at ourselves, we just blame the Dems for not matching our purity politics enough.
80 million didn’t show. They had weeks to turn in a vote via mail or just finding a local place to do it.
We all had options. 80 million decided to do nothing and they share just as much the blame and anyone for this.
It’s a common democrat knee jerk reaction to blame anyone but the perpetrators, that’s why. It’s course correcting.
And show me an election that doesn’t have similar numbers of non-voters. They aren’t to blame. People vote when they get inspired. And not being another person is not very inspiring.
They were supposed to vote to save what? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people are struggling and want change. People are on the edge and are kept just complacent enough to not fall off.
I’ll say it again: Keep blaming the nonvoters and you will continue to lose. INSPIRE THEM INSTEAD.
There are a LOT of factors that deserve them, and non voters are one of them.
Keep blaming other people for your inaction, and see how that works out.
Vote to save WHAT? Trans rights? Gay rights? The fuckin first amendment??? Social Security?
I’m glad you aren’t directly affected by any of this and therefore justified not doing what you can with what you have to keep other groups safe
Hope the weather is good up there on your high horse.
I think, not voting, is the wrong way of expressing not being convinced of the system.
I think the better approach would be vote, but try to spread the word why you’re inconvenienced, try to force government to be more transparent, sue politicians that do corrupt stuff, organise demonstrations and strike with precise demands like improve transparency of politics, found only trustworthy journalism, fact check anything and add sources to information/misinformation, track sources truthness not by 0 and 1 but between 0% and 100%, teach empathy to anybody, make music, talk to many people
But i am lucky, as my people before me have done that already, well, still hard job to maintain…
This cartoon could be done in reverse with Russian Dolls.
lol nested dolls where the little one is Putin.
And immovable. Because they are.
It shouldn’t be Russians, but Putin
Edit: You know what, some Russians are good people. Not everyone in Russia is a bootlicker
Of course this is true but when youre in a conflict you dont have the luxury of making distictions.
This is like Americans reminding us ‘not all Americans are like this’. Its like, yeah bro we know but your country is actively threatening ours, so tough.
Americans will always be xenophobic. They’ll just switch their target every now and then.
Wow, hot take. It’s almost like you completely missed the point of the comment you’re responding to.
Russians are good the same way Americans are good, as in that a huge amount of them support a piece of shit.
And probably for the same reason. Bad education, that’s what I think as a Russian.
Not saying every Russian is bad, and they’re obviously victims of lies and propaganda… But still. Don’t they overwhelmingly support the invasion of Ukraine? That’s like if most Americans were fine with us violently murdering, raping, and torturing our bloody way through Canada (please let this not happen)…
I mean there are a massive amount of people in America in complete support of the genocide in Gaza. But I guess the analogy doesn’t work for Americans because the children dying are brown.
It’s a nice thought, but unless toppling Tesla also somehow reverses destruction of the public education system, and also something about the complex systematic, and very much intentional, polarization of individuals through social media feeds then this won’t stop Republicans or Russia in the end.
Think of it more as exercise. It takes a bit for people to get rolling. If we can take down tesla, then we learn we can do more. Revolution doesn’t start at the finish line.
This exactly, and more people need to understand it. A one day boycott of Amazon doesn’t do much to Amazon, especially since many people will simply defer spending to the next day. What it does do is give a simple goal for people to participate who haven’t done this sort of thing before. Then you expand it to longer time periods and more targets.
The current Amazon boycott is 7 days and isn’t over until the 14th, BTW.
I’m just saying we need to know the route to run the marathon, otherwise we shouldn’t expect to win any prizes by the end of it.
Defeating Putin, Trump, and Elon Musk is going to have specific steps to accomplish. Educate, Organize, and Unify opposition, and this will absolutely involve playing politics which a lot of people abhor. This isn’t one of those “hit problems with club until it stops moving” scenarios. At least not until we take away the enemy’s bigger club.
Oh for sure. But we need to get people off the couch and moving before we can start telling them about a marathon.
No I don’t agree with that. We need people to be informed on both issues and our goals from the start.
I’m not going to lie to people to get them to join my “revolution.” I’m going to be up front and honest about my goals.
I want to make the conservative right a useless husk in every way possible, empower a unified left opposition, and prepare future generations with knowledge and resources to advance progress and minimize all human suffering while maximising security and freedoms so long as those freedoms do not infringe upon others.
I’m going to do that by convincing people to organize against the GOP and importantly with the DNC and Bernie Sanders.
Idk man melon seems pretty upset rn I’d say carry right on chaps looks like you’re going the right way o7
Good thing we’ve got people like you to tell everyone that doing anything isn’t worth it!
I never said it wasn’t worth it. I’m just saying you should plan a little further ahead than just punching a singular nazi if you want to defeat Hitler.
Right, Twitter should be in there too.
Also worth noting, Tesla’s stock price skyrocketed when it was made clear Elon would take over the government. It is now basically back to where it was before this.
I will get excited when it starts losing years worth of value.
Not with that attitude!
I’m doing my part!
Which foreigners are we gonna decide is the reason the US isn’t a democracy to hide the fact the state is owned by the ruling class next? I vote for going back to the Japanese
I bet it’s gonna be China, they’ve been setting that stage for years
You even see people eating it up on Lemmy.
Since some people in this thread need to hear it: China is not your enemy
Until my fellow citizens have their basic needs met I will assume anyone not actively working towards that goal is my enemy. Rich people in China are gaming the system to consolidate wealth just like our billionaires are. That doesn’t make them worse or better than us but in the context of my immediate concerns it makes them less relevant.
My money’s on Iran but China is always in contention for this coveted distinction.
It’s Arabs and Muslims this time. And the queer community as always. And obviously any commies that try to organize and resist.
And the Zionist Christians that run this country will absolutely love to deport the Jews to Israel.
And it’ll just continue to anyone “unAmerican”
Is ok to be xenophobe against Russians now?
There are plenty of Russians who are wonderful persons.
It’s like judging all Americans for what Trump is doing.
It’s like judging all Americans for what Trump is doing.
In case you haven’t noticed, that is what is happening
There are also plenty of Russians invading their neighbour, slaughtering thousands of innocent people.
Just like the complacent Americans sitting by watching their “leader” destroy the civility of the free world. The Russians are no better.
Being a bad or good person is not tied to nationality.
No it’s tied to your actions and principles.
Exactly.
Being Russian is not an action, nor a principle. It just states the fact that you, as a person, has been born in a place called Russia.
And inaction is just as big of a choice as action. You can’t just abstain from the choice.
The Germans civilians that lived outside the concentration camps were as guilty as the guards themselves.
Obviously I don’t believe the levels of guilt aren’t the same as say Hitler himself but they were guilty nonetheless.
What are you doing to stop Putin?
It’s called conscription. Russians have two choices: poverty or war. And the slaughter is way bigger in the russian lines.
There is a third one. Overthrow that damn imperial psychopath in their government.
Easier to say than to do. Not even Wagner group could do it.
Swap Republicans and Trump
Trump basically is the republican party anymore
Basically the Russian party, every one of them funded by Russians.
I understand all the hate against billionares and political elite, but what’s up with hating russians, including civilians? Especially these days, when russian citizen equals to bloody war, poverty and censorship.
Because it’s always been like that. An enemy image unites, and allows for political agendas which wouldn’t be possible otherwise. China and Taiwan? Israel and Gaza? The middle east? Jugoslawia? Kosovo and Albania? The soviets, Hitler, the OG fascist Mussolini, and even they weren’t the first ones.
Having an enemy helps unite people against them, and as long as the image of the enemy being present and being a danger is fed, inner conflicts matter way less, since the “danger” is the enemy.
For America it’s an especially interesting case:
- America spends ~900 billion dollars on military, which is as much as the next most spending 9 countries combined. Source. Fuck knows if that’s super accurate, it’s a fuckton. America’s main export good is war, so any enemy is a good enemy, and any war is a good war. Suddenly, the 66.5 billion spent on Ukraine since 2022 aren’t that much anymore.
- The “commies” and the “reds” are an historic enemy, and have been for a significant time of America’s existence. America has existed for 249 years this year. The soviet union existed for 69 years, counting in the Russian Republic right before its 74 years. Right before that was the Russian empire, which existed for 196 years. The Russians, in some form, have been an enemy since basically forever.
- A comparatively extremely dumb population on average at least in regard to the non-american world, in addition to intolerance of the “non-american way” of doing things and disinterest in other cultures.
And since the average American already is used in thinking black and white with glorious freedom of two-party pseudo democracy, it’s even easier to get the enemy image going.
For some variance, China can be used sometimes too.
And before I get called a Russian bot, fuck Putin, fuck Trump, fuck Musk, and many other political figures having blood of many people on their hands.
Great analysis. It’s a shame these days one can elaborate the most reasonable argumentation and still will be straight hated if not including literally ‘fuck Putin’.
Argumentation era is over.
No, a lot of people hate on the Russian government. I will say that the comic should say Russia instead of Russians to clarify that, unless the author themself is incorrect/misled.
Russia is the one who has been supporting Trump through their bot network in various social medias. We’re basically fighting an information war, and yet we basically won’t acknowledge it so we lose.
i think its more towards putin. i dont have an issue with russians, i have an issue with putin
Yeah, I’m pretty sure those dominoes are falling the other way.
*traitors
Yeah Americans, the same as Russians above. Americans are just on a different stage of the progression right now.
Welcome to liberal q-anon.
Where we go one, we bicker incessantly?
The hate to Russia is somewhat misplaced, Putinism is more or less a by product of America. It will be less a problem once Americans stop hate themselves.
What a dogshit take.
So it’s America’s fault Putin wants to reclaim old Soviet land. What kind of weak feeble minded child is Putin if that is her motivation.
It’s America’s fault that America is turning fascist. You don’t just get to run a 200 year political experiment built on genocide under the guidance of white landowners, and then start scapegoating Russians once that project inevitably and predictably goes fascists. This is American exceptionalism.
Lol, and I’m sure your country or any country other than the US wasn’t built on blood. Fuck outta here with your Russian apologist bs.
“The wholesale American genocide of Native Americans is Ruzzian propaganda!”
Way to intentionally miss the point. Expected from an .ml loser.
What point? That in order for any country to form, it must carry out a genocide so effective that it inspires Hitler? And I am the apologist?
Your comment is honestly psychopathic in the way you use “blood” as a euphemism for a genocide that killed some 10 million Native Americans.
Like… what is your point though? “Abolish all states”? While that would be based, I’m afraid that’s not what you meant.
So it’s America’s fault
Quite literally yes. The US is the country behind the privatisation of all national assets in Russia that ended up in the hands of oligarchs, it was literally carried out under the guidance of MIT economists.
Nonetheless, burning a house down doesn’t rebuild any houses, even if it is the arsonist’s house going up in flames.
Exactly, you can ask the talking heads how that went…
