Rule of Google: if it works, kill it.

I know, I know, using Google apps isn’t the best, but this was a perfectly good Podcast app with all the features you might want.

Apparently they’re moving everything over to YouTube Music, where a lot of the features of Google Podcasts aren’t implemented yet.

I’ve moved over to an app from F-Droid.

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        For the big products, I think Google Assistant will be next followed by barely doing anything further with Android Auto until it dies a few years after GAS starts getting pushed out while it probably either won’t or will stop supporting ‘legacy’ Android Auto apps, so AA dies ‘because developers aren’t supporting apps anymore – totally not our fault and we’re sorry to see this happen.’

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      I’m kind of into Podscast Addict. Not sure how it compares, but its pretty good.

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    I don’t really understand how they consistently manage to screw things up. And they always say that the features are coming, but they never do.

    I’m still bitter over Inbox.

    I used to be excited about new things from Google. Tried to get into every beta, downloaded the newest released apps etc. But not anymore.

    I just read about tasks being removed from Google Keep. Then the feature removal from nest hubs. Do they have a unified strategy at all? Or is it just the whims of a manager’s daily musings that drive what development does?

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      Man, Inbox was so good. I still start typing “inbox” into the address bar to get to my emails.

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      They have an agenda, which isn’t aligned with your agenda. They only care about profitability, so they kill any projects not supporting that goal. Some projects are created to gather specific data sets about users, and the project is shut down when the data is captured, regardless of how popular the project was. They are always doing something with an ulterior motive. Once you understand that then you won’t be mystified by their decisions anymore.

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        They only care about profitability

        It’s not even profitability. It’s about what looks good on a resume.

        New projects look good. Maintaining old projects doesn’t.

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      I always felt Google is just a collection of startups each doing their own thing, and they live and die like startups, too. There’s barely any overall strategy, and whenever they actually try to do something strategic, the result sucks (e.g. G+)

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      It’s a company culture thing. You’re not rewarded for maintaining or finishing products. You are rewarded for starting new ones.

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        You’re not rewarded for maintaining or finishing products.

        No kidding.

        It is 2024, and here is your yearly reminder that you still can’t create a new folder/label in the official Gmail Android app despite the online documentation implying that you can.

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          Android users literally run their lives out of Google Calendar. Think you can share your calendar with a friend from your phone? Think again. It’s back to the 10 year old desktop interface for you!

          Oh you’re not at home at your computer, well, try using the desktop version of Google Calandar on your phone’s browser. I dare you.

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            I’m still waiting for the day when we can create an event from a message in Gmail.

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      Former Googlers have always said that the big issue with sustaining products at Google is that it is highly competitive and Google rewards new products, not sustaining current products. So, most people want to continuously join/form teams for new products leaving little resources for current products. This has been the way since Google started becoming a large company – so decades now.

      This makes sense as to why Google puts out applications that seemingly do the same thing as something else but ever so slightly different and why there are sometimes cool new products that die on the vine years later and if there was no slightly different thing available it just dies or if there is then there is a half-assed migration.

      In the Reddit AMA the Google Home team answered a few questions and only the very few softball ones. One interesting comment they made though is that because of the Nest products and generally new products, they believe it is a challenge to support the older hardware, including integrating Google and Nest hardware, so basically you get features removed to make it all work. Of course, there was the promise and supposed internal roadmap that puts these features back eventually, but we’ve seen that kind of promise over and over from Google and it rarely happens. They are trying to replace Assistant with their Gemini AI which you can do now but it comes with even less features (but parity is coming – they promise!..one day!). Is that parity with current Assistant which seems to be supporting less and less and working worse?

      Google is losing a lot of consumer trust in products I think and it’s going to get worse for them as this trickles to the general consumer-base.

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      I’ve heard a theory that says all the apps and services they make only have the purpose of collecting data. Sort of like limited time experiments. Once they get all they need from one of them they kill it and move on.

      Sometimes they pretend to roll a dead service into another product in order to drive customers to that product but it’s done only in name, by a completely unrelated team and with only a vaguely related feature subset.

      It would certainly explain a lot.

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    How else are they gonna half ass implement that into youtube and make that shit bloated af.

    It has long form content, Tiktok clone, Main music delivery system, Twitch clone, And now, Podcasts.

    👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

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      I don’t have YouTube Pro or whatever its called now and when I listen to music on my Google home it plays an ad after ever song. Since I have switched to Pihole and blocked googles DNS servers the only ads I get are to buy premium YouTube which I assume are hardcoded into something somewhere.

      We better be careful, with Googles track record they will be getting rid of YouTube soon and rolling it into whatever they are calling their Skype clone nowadays.

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        We better be careful, with Googles track record they will be getting rid of YouTube soon and rolling it into whatever they are calling their Skype clone nowadays.

        I think that five products are reasonably safe from Google’s euthanasia project:

        • YouTube
        • Google Search
        • Chrome
        • “core” Android system + Play Store (it counts as one)
        • AdSense

        The common factor between them is advertisement: vulturing on your personal info (Chrome, GS, Android), serving you ads (YT, GS), ensuring that advertisers must pay the vassal tax to advertise (AdSense), and walling you in ways that you can’t fight back (Chrome, Android+Play Store).

        Google stopped being a technology business a long time ago; pragmatically nowadays it’s simply an advertisement company that dabbles on tech.

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          Google stopped being a technology business a long time ago; pragmatically nowadays it’s simply an advertisement company that dabbles on tech

          They’ve primarily been an ad company ever since they acquired DoubleClick in 2008.

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            Good catch on GMail - it’s at the same time a vector to invade your privacy and an additional barrier for people leaving the Google ecosystem battery farm.

            I’m not sure on GSuite.

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              GSuite is well used in corporate settings as a cheaper alternative to O365 enterprise.

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      It seems like their trying to roll everything into the over media app and subscription

      Kind of makes sense, all their other apps are pretty fragmented and crappy.

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      Going to be called YouTube Podcasts. Soon to be spun off into Google Wallet + Podcasts, then to be renamed Podcasts Pay, then Pay Podcasts, then Google Chrome with Podcasts.

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      It also has games now.

      I don’t think it’s rolled out to a lot of people. No one at work can see them except me, but my Google app has games that I can bring up.

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      Pixel Pass

      Killed 8 months ago, Pixel Pass was a program that allowed users to pay a monthly charge for their Pixel phone and upgrade immediately after two years. It was almost 2 years old.

      Well, that seems particularly scummy.

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      Tombstone 2030-2032 Google Pacemaker

      Killed 8 years from now, Google Pacemaker was an IoT pacemaker for patients with heart arrhythmia. All devices were remotely deactivated after 2 years.

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        Tombstone 2030-2032 Google Pacemaker

        Killed 8 years from now, Google Pacemaker was an IoT pacemaker for patients with heart arrhythmia. All devices were remotely deactivated after 2 years.

        🤯 😂

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    I just ignore any new Google service these days. Unreliability isn’t even as much of a concern as privacy.

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      Google music, Google+, Google Spaces, they even killed Google Cache recently - which was a fantastic way to get around my work’s brain-dead decision to block the company (including IT) from reaching Reddit.

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        You would think with the further advancement of humanity, with or without technology we would have more reason to cache and archive things out there whether it’s by the written word of paper, the internet or via our phone cameras.

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    This is exactly why I never started using this app. Not worth investing my time. Still on Pocket Casts for years

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      Switched to Antennapod when abandoning Spotify recently. It’s been great! Way better interface than Spotify’s embarrassingly horrible UI.

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      Fine. I finally installed f-droid, because while I don’t listen to a lot of podcasts, I am trying to listen to more, and YT Music is ass for finding new podcasts.

      Please give me recommendations for more podcasts that may like based on what I got

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      Been on it for a few years now. It’s great.

      The only other one I’d really recommend is Podcast Addict. I only switched to Antennapod because it has a little less busy UI.

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      That’s my go to, FOSS app that rivals the major apps.

      There are other podcast apps on F-Droid also.