Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn’t matter what you run, just don’t run Windows 11.
windows 11 isn’ all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.
No one outside of tech communities does that
Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don’t do this.
Not to say it’s a good operating system, though.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.
They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the
startswith.('Windows 9')issueI actually really liked both windows 8 and Vista too.
8 was slimmed down and optimized vs 7. Bootup time on my HDD equipped machine halved, performance was better, and the search was so good I never actually saw the start menu because I’d just blindly hit enter and it opened what I wanted.
Vista had a rough start because they basically had to start fresh with drivers. But I bought a nice new machine about a year after it came out and it ran it flawlessly. Aero looked (and still looks) so cool, and XP was just a crusty old OS by then, let alone 2014 when it finally lost support.
Aero looked (and still looks) so cool
Oof. Hard disagree.
Hey, whats so bad about w11?
Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.
Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.
Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome
Wait i have w11 in my laptop… i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?
Ads are fucked, thats fucked.
But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?
I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we’d see mass linux adoption.
I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.
iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user’s knowledge or ability to enable a local account.
Ads are…already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison.
Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS
Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there’s a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You’d just have to seek that out and it’s a pain.
No… I’ve literally only seen this on Lemmy. I’ve never once encountered anyone in real life that does this.
Edit: and to add, people really don’t like this. I love Linux, but hate this community at this point. It’s disingenuous and I see blatant lies all the time about where I’m going to see ads in windows. I’ve yet to see any ads at all so far.
This is hardly a blatant lie.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/get-rid-of-ads-in-your-windows-10-start-menu/ This is from 2015
https://www.cnet.com/tech/who-wants-ads-in-their-windows-11-start-menu-heres-how-to-turn-them-off/ and now
The fact that you haven’t noticed this doesn’t mean its made up
It is interesting but people have different thresholds for what they consider “ads”
I know Ubuntu took some flak for offering their system — was it Ubuntu Pro? — at their login screen. That’s fine with me, but bothers others.
Ubuntu again did it with some music store app in their app search results.
Meanwhile Windows has stuffed Candy Crush, Office, and many others in the start menu over the years. And sometimes it’s not Microsoft but OEMs doing this.
But is crapware “advertising”? Im not sure but it seems like perceptions have shifted at the same time as Microsoft specifically has pushed more and more intrusive ads, and those have moved further to the “advertising” side of that line between suggestion and spam.
I gotta be honest, I actually really like windows 11.
Recall is awful and I hope enough pressure keeps it away (or at least as something you have to manually turn on). But besides that it’s mostly just windows 10 but better. I get better battery life, better performance, I actually mostly like the UI changes etc.
Also does nobody remember all of the hate for 10 when it first came out?
You will need to after Oct 2025 unless you want Linux or Mac OS
I literally can’t install Windows 11 on my current computer lol. I know there are workarounds for it but I don’t feel comfortable doing that for my primary computer.
More windows hate circlejerk.
Just upgraded to windows 11 and really like it. What’s so shit about it?
“We like the clean design and improved performance of Microsoft’s latest operating system, but it still suffers from its fair share of issues. Here’s what people gripe about the most.”
And they don’t even mention the ads or that Recall garbage
thing that takes screenshotsbeing forced on you even though the public made it obvious they don’t want that. That and all the telemetry; it’s pretty much spyware disguised as an operating system.I’m sure there are more things but those are just the ones off the top of my head.
*Edit: I remembered the name of Recall
Most of those are tiny gripes, and to be honest I don’t care at all about most of them. The OS looks nice, runs well, and is pretty painless. That’s all I want in an OS.
*Edit: I remembered the name of Recall
You could say you … recalled it 😏
Doesn’t let you just do whatever you want. I turned off the windows firewall in windows 7 and went on with my life. Windows 11 wouldn’t let me download updates with the firewall off.
I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I’m that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I’m a vegan.
Have you considered CrossFit?
Maybe they cook only with an air fryer.
Why is your username blue?
Edit: sorry. You’re OP
The Holy Trifecta!
I someday hope to meet myself again.
vegoon btw
we be vegooning all night
“We are all vegooners on this blessed day”
-Ken M
😼
Why don’t you use emacs? You can replace Linux with it and use it to start vim!
Your personal choices are offending me.
omg bestie
I would always start all conversations with my friends with “Hey Windows peasants!” If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
I swear Linux users are borderline jehovah’s witnesses going door to door
hey!.. We’re clearly tech vegans
Isn’t cruelty against animals - specifically one self - a key part of the Linux learning journey?
Cruelty to oneself is part of the Arch journey.
Life is suffering. Once you accept that fact wholly, you may ascend
Ah, but you see, we consented to the cruelty against ourselves.
Windows user:
*Complaining about ads on their desktop
Me, a linux enjoyer:
*inhales*
Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.
Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren’t for normal people.
I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I’ve never once had to manually add a repository.
Not knocking you but there is also a reason the “I use Arch memes” exist.
Because we want everyone to know how SUPERIOR arch (and derivates distro) is so they can get in the fun? 😁 /j
Cool. Don’t care… Just pointing out that the person is wrong.
Adding repos is a one time thing that takes like 10 minutes tbf. And even then there are gui tools for that funny enough.
Ten minutes? What are you doing for the other eight? Basking in the warmth of a job well done?
are those real? I don’t believe anyone ever said “it’s like linux but it works.”
it does work though, on windows i can see ads and intrusive crap all the time. Linux distros don’t bother you at all, it’s like linux is not even trying at this point.
This makes me want to make a Linux addon just for ads
Like make it entirely transparent Download this is you miss having ads lol
don’t forget to activate your linux distro
Ubuntu used to do ads pretty well, even before microsoft got better at them, haven’t used that distro in a while, so can’t confirm if that’s the case still, but you might want to check it out.
That’s 100% someone trolling Linux users.
I think they’re tongue in cheek.
I’m going to argue that it’s very unlikely any of those people are friends or colleagues. It didn’t ask if you recommend Windows on social media or forums.
We’re not friends? 🥺
Sry, who dis?
Oh god
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If we claim we are recommending distros do we escape on a technicality?
The distro IS the OS, so no.
No, the OS is a given.
The word distro is a commonly used for Linux distros, where the OS is Linux, I would say.
Edit: this sentence is wrong
I wouldn’t say the OS is Linux any more than the OS of an Apple computer is XNU. Linux is just the kernel. Similarly the other OS isn’t “Windows NT kernel,” but Windows 10 or Windows 11.
The kernel is linux. From wikipedia: An operating system (OS) is system software that manages computer hardware and software resources, and provides common services for computer programs.
Linux being designed to work with so many things (and so many things designed to work with linux) all combined make the OS. This is also where the famous quote comes from. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/incorrect-quotation.en.html
unironically: most distros are actually mostly gnu, just with a linux kernel. bit annoyed when people just call it “linux”
This meme is older than Windows 11
This meme is older than windows 8
Don’t be so certain - I’d recommend Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT over Windows 11 any day
You can’t get IOT as a consumer
Not with that attitude.
Not legally
Wouldn’t be the first dubiously legal copy of Windows I have.
Best use of that image I’ve ever seen
If you are cross-posting please mark it as such. My poor communist in c/memes.
I must have missed it if this had just been posted in another community.
After the latest bullshit from Microsoft I would make absolutely sure to recommend literally anything but Windows to everyone that talks to me.
After the latest bullshit from Microsoft
I like how your comment works regardless of whether you consider “latest” to be the past year or the past decade lol.
Fair point. I haven’t used Windows for almost a decade, so maybe a bit of a, a bit of b?
You people are coordinated in your recommendations. You are more efficient than the KGB
It might look like that when the topic is Linux vs windows, but if you ever wanna see that coordination fall apart just ask “which distro?”
…Ubuntu.
Definitely start with a nice beginner friendly distro, like Gentoo, NixOS, or LFS.
Lol evil
What? All you have to do is edit a few files with ed, run some simple commands in the terminal, and you have a working system
*linux mint
I use arch by the way, and I don’t recommend it.
i used to use arch but it kept deteriorating over time and it was fun to fix but now im in year 10 with board exams next year lol(i dont have time for that)
Why are you still using Windows? Switch to Linux!
Imagine using linux in 2024, TempleOS all the way
