The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is moving to ban the use of Red No. 3 dye in food products.
  • Breve@pawb.social
    122·
    2 days ago

    Anyone want to take bets on how long until right wing influencers start talking about how Red No 3 cures COVID/cancer/brainworms and how the government is trying to take it away because of how good it is, while posting a video of themselves chugging gallons of it on TikTok to own the libs?

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      3·
      2 days ago

      Anyone want to take bets on how long…

      Longer than it took for someone to jump in here and make an off topic politically based comment.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
        19·
        2 days ago

        He just wrote what we were all thinking.

        C’mon: the halfwits were eating HORSE DEWORMER as a pandemic ‘cure’. The likely head of the CDC still thinks it’s a cure.

        Gallows humour is just a way of dealing with the realization where America elected a felon faster than it could prosecute him.

        • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
          1·
          16 hours ago

          He just wrote what we were all thinking.

          Without being a dick I’d like to submit that if you’re thinking about politics in relation to the FDA banning a food substance then it may be time to back off just a bit.

          Gallows humour is…

          It’s not “Gallows humour”, its just posting more American Political hypeshit where it doesn’t need to be.

          • Traister101@lemmy.today
            3·
            1 day ago

            The point of pointing out that it’s a horse dewormer is that horses are a whole lot larger than us. Therefore their meds are stronger or they take larger doses. A lot of people took horse does of horse dewormer and literally shat out bits of their guts.

            • lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.todayEnglish
              3·
              1 day ago

              Ivermectin is a human antiparasitic too. But more importantly, I’m pretty most of this is just a myth. The stories I’ve seen about mass ivermectin hospitalizations turned out to be hoaxes, see e.g. here. If you literally took an entire horse-sized dose (200μg/kg for a 700kg horse, so 140mg) as a 60kg human, you’d get a dose of 2.3mg/kg, 11x the recommended amount for infestation - which has been tested in humans to be safe. Ivermectin is amazingly safe for a drug; you have to really try to get an overdose.

              So I think a few people (seems to be ~several hundred for all of US in 2021) did somehow manage to actually get themselves poisoned (I’d love to know how; I think I saw a statistic once about what dosages were found in ivermectin poisoning cases but I can’t find it in my bookmarks, and the few actual case reports I can find don’t provide a dosage), but most of the “horse dewormer” stories in the media were just political propaganda.

              (The above isn’t getting into the question of whether ivermectin is effective against COVID, though. I think it was reasonable to think so back during the start of the pandemic, since the studies were really quite suggestive, and it was a safe drug to try, and the studies weren’t even debunked at the end - rather, it was found that the improvements were most likely due to the drug treating the coincidental parasite infestations the patients had. It’s not so reasonable now that we have better studies and real working anti-COVID drugs, and the people who suggest taking ivermectin for COVID nowadays sure are crazies, but I personally would not shame people for doing it back in 2021 or so. Taking one of the only drugs that seemed to be effective against a terrifying pandemic is just a smart thing to do, if it’s this safe.)

  • cybersin@lemm.ee
    30·
    1 day ago

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  • Alienmonkey@lemm.ee
    40·
    2 days ago

    They have until 2027?

    Lmao, we know this is bad but what’s another 2yrs going to hurt…

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      30·
      2 days ago

      If the ban was effective immediately a bunch of things would have to be pulled from shelves and that would impact everything from Acetaminophen to Maraschino cherries to some vegetarian faux-meats. There’s over 9,000 (lol) products across a wide number of industries that use Red 3.

    • nialv7@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 days ago

      Your comment prompted me to lookup when red 3 started to be used in food, but I couldn’t find anything. Can’t find who discovered it or when it was discovered either, weird. (There are claims but none with a credible source)

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        12·
        2 days ago

        According to Material History Review (Fall 1994) it was discovered in 1876 by Adolf Kussmaul. No clue who first used it in food, corporations weren’t big fans of telling us what was in food back then.

        • nialv7@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 days ago

          I just found out minutes before I posted my comment someone added this information to the Wikipedia page lol.

          Edit: huh, wait. Material History Review just says “Kussmaul (1876)”, are we sure it was Adolf Kussmaul? He was a physician, not a chemist. And it doesn’t reference any sources either… Was record keeping that bad back then?

          • Kitathalla@lemy.lolEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            Aye, there’s a pattern of breathing named after him. In respect to the possibility of him being its ‘discoverer,’ there was a greater demand on physicians to be more than medicine dispensers back then. While these days you have a pretty clear divide between MDs that treat patients and MDs that do research, it wouldn’t surprise me if a physician in the late 19th century was formulating his own medications to test, and might have a hobby of experimenting with materials that didn’t pan out as medication.

  • flames5123@lemmy.world
    16·
    2 days ago

    “the link between the dye and cancer does not occur in humans”

    So just because it’s carcinogenic in rats means it’s banned. But sure, let’s keep selling cigarettes. This is just a big joke.

    • howrar@lemmy.ca
      26·
      1 day ago

      It’s a question of risk vs reward, not risk alone. I don’t imagine many would care if their candies look different, but if you take away cigarettes, you’re going to get a riot and lots of people going to the black market.

    • tb_@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 day ago

      Cigarettes are fairly easy and obvious to avoid, disregarding the occasional whiff when you’re out and about.

      Food additives less so, especially when in it’s in a lot of different foods and manufacturers may change previously “safe” formulas.

    • Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de
      14·
      2 days ago

      I puked anytime I ate anything with #40 in it as a child. I wasn’t about to let that get between me and red licorice though so I got over it as a teenager! 😅

      I hope they get rid of #40 as well

      • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        4·
        1 day ago

        Got a buddy that does the same thing as a 30+ adult.

        100% makes him sick Everytime. I’d never heard of it until I met him.

          • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            1 day ago

            No issues with hairline, but I’m a woman so hopefully that’s not something I need to worry about. Knees? Seem ok but no injuries there in the past, thankfully.

            • foggy@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 day ago

              Oh, dammit.

              How’s your… Your…

              Hmm…Too soon for menopause jokes unless you were in or beyond college for those references…

              Hows that… Nostalgia for things not sucking treating you??

              Hah! Got her.