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BELOW the ground floor!
For real?
And is there a Lemmy equivalent to pre-2021 wallstreetbets?
Anyone want to take bets on how long until right wing influencers start talking about how Red No 3 cures COVID/cancer/brainworms and how the government is trying to take it away because of how good it is, while posting a video of themselves chugging gallons of it on TikTok to own the libs?
The government should make it illegal to drink bleach.
Nah, I’m fine with drinking bleach being legal.
I’ve no problem with idiots who drink it, they shouldn’t be allowed to give it to their kids though.
Bleach is apart of the health-supplement market and is therefore unregulated.
“Red is our color! white erasure!!!” /$
People have been making jokes about “Red #3 maxing” for months.
Anyone want to take bets on how long…
Longer than it took for someone to jump in here and make an off topic politically based comment.
He just wrote what we were all thinking.
C’mon: the halfwits were eating HORSE DEWORMER as a pandemic ‘cure’. The likely head of the CDC still thinks it’s a cure.
Gallows humour is just a way of dealing with the realization where America elected a felon faster than it could prosecute him.
He just wrote what we were all thinking.
Without being a dick I’d like to submit that if you’re thinking about politics in relation to the FDA banning a food substance then it may be time to back off just a bit.
Gallows humour is…
It’s not “Gallows humour”, its just posting more American Political hypeshit where it doesn’t need to be.
I mean, the horse dewormer is also a people dewormer. It’s just that COVID isn’t a worm.
The point of pointing out that it’s a horse dewormer is that horses are a whole lot larger than us. Therefore their meds are stronger or they take larger doses. A lot of people took horse does of horse dewormer and literally shat out bits of their guts.
Ivermectin is a human antiparasitic too. But more importantly, I’m pretty most of this is just a myth. The stories I’ve seen about mass ivermectin hospitalizations turned out to be hoaxes, see e.g. here. If you literally took an entire horse-sized dose (200μg/kg for a 700kg horse, so 140mg) as a 60kg human, you’d get a dose of 2.3mg/kg, 11x the recommended amount for infestation - which has been tested in humans to be safe. Ivermectin is amazingly safe for a drug; you have to really try to get an overdose.
So I think a few people (seems to be ~several hundred for all of US in 2021) did somehow manage to actually get themselves poisoned (I’d love to know how; I think I saw a statistic once about what dosages were found in ivermectin poisoning cases but I can’t find it in my bookmarks, and the few actual case reports I can find don’t provide a dosage), but most of the “horse dewormer” stories in the media were just political propaganda.
(The above isn’t getting into the question of whether ivermectin is effective against COVID, though. I think it was reasonable to think so back during the start of the pandemic, since the studies were really quite suggestive, and it was a safe drug to try, and the studies weren’t even debunked at the end - rather, it was found that the improvements were most likely due to the drug treating the coincidental parasite infestations the patients had. It’s not so reasonable now that we have better studies and real working anti-COVID drugs, and the people who suggest taking ivermectin for COVID nowadays sure are crazies, but I personally would not shame people for doing it back in 2021 or so. Taking one of the only drugs that seemed to be effective against a terrifying pandemic is just a smart thing to do, if it’s this safe.)
Well, you have to make the bets before the thing happens, so….
Hi, I’d like to place a bet on last year’s Superbowl. I’ve got a good feeling.
“the link between the dye and cancer does not occur in humans”
So just because it’s carcinogenic in rats means it’s banned. But sure, let’s keep selling cigarettes. This is just a big joke.
It’s a question of risk vs reward, not risk alone. I don’t imagine many would care if their candies look different, but if you take away cigarettes, you’re going to get a riot and lots of people going to the black market.
Cigarettes are fairly easy and obvious to avoid, disregarding the occasional whiff when you’re out and about.
Food additives less so, especially when in it’s in a lot of different foods and manufacturers may change previously “safe” formulas.
MOD: In light of reports related to homeopathy:
There is a studied and demonstrated harm associated with homeopathy. However, claims made in ignorance of this will not be removed as misinformation at this time.
Read more: Adverse effects of homeopathy: a systematic review of published case reports and case series | 2012
They have until 2027?
Lmao, we know this is bad but what’s another 2yrs going to hurt…
If the ban was effective immediately a bunch of things would have to be pulled from shelves and that would impact everything from Acetaminophen to Maraschino cherries to some vegetarian faux-meats. There’s over 9,000 (lol) products across a wide number of industries that use Red 3.
Your comment prompted me to lookup when red 3 started to be used in food, but I couldn’t find anything. Can’t find who discovered it or when it was discovered either, weird. (There are claims but none with a credible source)
According to Material History Review (Fall 1994) it was discovered in 1876 by Adolf Kussmaul. No clue who first used it in food, corporations weren’t big fans of telling us what was in food back then.
I just found out minutes before I posted my comment someone added this information to the Wikipedia page lol.
Edit: huh, wait. Material History Review just says “Kussmaul (1876)”, are we sure it was Adolf Kussmaul? He was a physician, not a chemist. And it doesn’t reference any sources either… Was record keeping that bad back then?
I don’t know it seems like sometimes the mailman was discovering shit back then.
Aye, there’s a pattern of breathing named after him. In respect to the possibility of him being its ‘discoverer,’ there was a greater demand on physicians to be more than medicine dispensers back then. While these days you have a pretty clear divide between MDs that treat patients and MDs that do research, it wouldn’t surprise me if a physician in the late 19th century was formulating his own medications to test, and might have a hobby of experimenting with materials that didn’t pan out as medication.
Red #3 was invented by Red Foreman, obviously. It’s named after him.
Uhhh actually it was Red #4 obviously
Man did I love the 70’s show. Now I can’t watch it because most of the cast tried to protect that one dude. Even white knight Ashton kutcher
We know it causes cancer in rats, but we have to think about the shareholders!
There is no evidence that it causes cancer in shareholders.
Shareholders are such scumbags.
Do Red40 next!
I puked anytime I ate anything with #40 in it as a child. I wasn’t about to let that get between me and red licorice though so I got over it as a teenager! 😅
I hope they get rid of #40 as well
Got a buddy that does the same thing as a 30+ adult.
100% makes him sick Everytime. I’d never heard of it until I met him.
Who numbers all these dyes anyway?
No. 2
Who does No. 2 work for?
That’s right, buddy. You show that turd who’s boss.
Just remember to breathe! Else you might blow out your O ring, drop a lung.
Yeah baby!
No. 1
🤯🤯🤯
Interesting question… After a small amount of research.
The FDA in the US and the INS globally. The number is just a sequential identifier, i.e., red #3 was approved before red #5.
EU too. It’s E127 there.
To be reversed by Tuesday.
We need more concrete changes.
Concrete is fine the way it is
shrug
Oh no! What about Big Red?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNMq3-mN0JU
EDIT: It’s OK, we still have Red 40
I thought Red No. 5 was the bad one. I feel like I remember that from somewhere.
Yellow 5.
Rumors of it killing sperm back in the days of Surge.
Surge. Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.
How are you knees/hairline?
😎
No issues with hairline, but I’m a woman so hopefully that’s not something I need to worry about. Knees? Seem ok but no injuries there in the past, thankfully.
Oh, dammit.
How’s your… Your…
Hmm…Too soon for menopause jokes unless you were in or beyond college for those references…
Hows that… Nostalgia for things not sucking treating you??
Hah! Got her.
Don’t worry. It’ll be back on the menu in six days.
