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      The responses to this on the other post were the same, punitive and wrathful with no space left for critical thinking.

      How many people shop online then consume media showing the impacts of climate change or reports of warehouse working conditions within the delivery window? How many “fuck cars” users also subscribe to gentle parenting content? How many were raised in Christian homes and currently hold negative views on religion generally?

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    What happened to basic human decency .

    They are mourning 200 dead in a disaster zone.

    Can’t you shut your fucking mouth for one week ?

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      I’ll shut up when we mourn the death and maiming caused by the use of cars.

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        Well, that’s vile and also a clinically psychopathic lack of empathy.

        I hope that when you grow up, you manage to reconnect with your humanity.

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          I hope that when you grow up, you manage to reconnect with your humanity.

          The same to you then.

          You remind me of the people who complain about talk of gun regulations after mass shootings.

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          The thing is, you’re both right. It’s a vile and cynical lack of empathy on both your parts. He’s exactly right, far more people die daily who get none of your empathy. If people dying on the road is supposed to change our behaviour, then what about you?

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            They’re not both right. Vile rhetoric sews division. Calling it out and appealing to humanity are acts of strength that bind us together.

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    Jesus fucking Christ. I get advocating for less car reliance but cheering the deaths of people just for owning cars is beyond fucked.

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      Valencia registers about 50 deaths by car accident per year, 1/3 of the deaths that the floods caused in the city. If you look at Spain as a whole, car deaths per year are much, much higher. Depending on how long it takes roads to unblock and cars to be replaced, this may in total be a win for human lives…

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    Also fuck greedy investor urbanism. Valencia spent an enormous amount of time and money to redirect a river prone to flooding outside of the city. And then promptly urbanized the risky flood plain with housing and commerce.

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    People can hate cars AND help humans in need, even car users.

    Flooding wouldn’t be so bad without global car dependency.

    I’m sorry for all the losses the people have to endure, but after this is over, there needs to be a discussion how to prevent disaster like these or minimise their impact on human and general environment.

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        The financial, spatial and carbon economy of motorised private transport is inefficient, including its infrastructure. Opportunity costs of missing climate action due to economical reliance on private transport, spatial constraints of land use for traffic and inefficient housing (private transport induced sprawl) are just two examples for that.

        Climate change fuels flooding frequency and severity, so fueling climate change with fossil fuelled private transport is irresponsible.

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    So brave to seize on a natural disaster and massive human tragedy. How proud of yourselves you must be.

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      Gauche caviar.

      This is so ridiculous I don’t even know what to say. If you can live your life without having to use cars, then you’re extremely lucky. That is fucking rare, you know that?

      Transport exclusion is a massive problem worldwide, majority of people on Earth needs cars to make do with core activities.

      You have a choice to use cars or use public transport, and you choose public transport? Bless your heart, that is a good choice. But not everybody has that choice.

      So, kindly, shut your gaudy mouth, please.