VeganPizza69 Ⓥ

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  • I was referring to the origin of domesticated grasses. If you want to understand the origin of grasses, that’s a different set of literature.

    Grasses are older than humans.

    My point is that, if you study land ecology and history of ecosystems, and if you study human civilizations, you’ll see a pattern of “those who learn to keep the forest ecosystems survive for longer”. It becomes more obvious when you understand the role of forests in the water cycle over land. Those who cut or burned the forests tend to fail; cutting trees isn’t necessarily the end of a forest, but pastoralists ensure that forests end by coming in with herds of ruminants and spreading grasslands. Ruminants, fire, axes.

    There’s an ancient war between forests and grasslands. https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-earth-040809-152402

    Humans are mobile jungle forest, that’s our ape origin. So it is depressing that we betrayed our niche. There are consequences.













  • VeganPizza69 ⓋtoVeganStop (Saying) Factory Farming
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    28 days ago

    It’s ethicswashing or humanewashing.

    To be clear, extensive animal farming isn’t humane. People just DECLARE that it is. As someone from a “less developed”, I’ve seen up close the remnants of traditional extensive animal farming and it’s as brutal as the industrial version, often worse by “welfare” standards.

    It’s all marketing, bucolic pastoralist aesthetics feeding nostalgia and protofascism.

    And this “factory farming bad” shtick is even more perverse. Like the Carnivore movement, they hide the simple fact that it’s this conspicuous consumption is a status symbol. It doesn’t stop at “welfare”, it’s a race, they keep going… regenerative, grass fed, unvaxxed, hormone free, raw milk, hand milked etc. It will never stop.

    More perverse still is that making this most resource intensive meat and milk into the most sought after food product is going to increase food insecurity, it’s going to cause famine and conflict. The more resources are used to please the rich consumers’ idea of a “pure and superior diet” and their fantasies of being God’s chosen rulers of the food chains, the less food there is to go around. Which is how I see conflicts like the invasion of the Amazon forest or the war in Sudan where the rich meat eaters of United Arab Emirates are demanding grass fed meat and empowering the RSF (pastoralist) militias to “cleanse” the black agriculturalist population from the land.