Maybe I’m the centrist in this scenario, but isn’t that just normal left? I’d expect far left to be like “we are going to exterminate all the rich then give their stuff to everyone else”
In the US at least, the entire country is so far right that the position above is actually far left in our political sphere.
Haha yeah US is so backwards. And I’m surprised the world hasn’t built a massive wall around us because we literally use God as part of our laws, how many weapons we have stockpiled, how many citizens die from unnecessary violence, how little we care about the homeless.
And any sort of empathy about any of those problems, even pointing it out, isnt even a discussion point in politics because itll go nowhere fast.
I also believe I am center… To me it’s more like
Right: let’s go exterminate races. Left: ACAB, all cops are pieces of shit and deserve life sentences.
I mean, they aren’t totally equal, but there are better examples.
All cops are bastards though.
Until you need one.
I’m more likely to be assaulted by a cop than helped by one. Or randomly killed while they do triple the speed limit with no siren.
I hope someday your feelings of law enforcement can be repaired by them. This is a tragic relationship between people and those that are supposed to protect them.
I hope law enforcement keeps correcting this, which they should have done themselves but instead it took enormous pressure and numerous occasions of crimes by law enforcement.
Maybe one day, you won’t have to fell that way.
It’s funny to see people that have swallowed anti communist peograganda hook line and sinker flounder in here trying to discredit the far left.
The centrists has their basic needs met and isn’t part of a social group that is threatened so they see both as a waste of tax spending.
“If we just improve the education system, racism will go away.” - My centrist friend
Bro, no. Also, who the fuck do you think is trying to fund education? Assuming we even accept your premise.
Education does help, or the right wouldn’t be trying to gut it so hard. But it’s not all we need
centrists are usually right wing wanting the votes/approval from left
Undecided voters are the stupidest people on the face of the Earth.
why do people say these thing when they know its not true
i just try my best to think logically and realistically idc abt left or right opinions
Thinking logically and realistically, without checking if left or right, inevitably leads to a leftist slant. There’s nothing logical or realistic about right wing thought, that’s why they usually suppress the scientific community and educational systems.
Is that really ‘far’ left, though? Far left is, “let a handful of governors control everything, on behalf of communal ownership, and they will make sure everyone’s needs are met fairly.”
I think the use of “far left” in this meme is based on the labels that right wing media is pushing on the ‘normal’ left.
That’s not the far left, that’s Capitalism. The Far Left is for democratic control of Production and working towards a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society via Worker Ownership, whether that be through a state or via Anarchism.
I don’t think far left implies statelessness. I know communist governments are not taken as an ideal picture of far left, but I thought far left politics still has state governorship over public ownership?
You say Worker Ownership, but I thought the thing about ‘left’ versus ‘right’ is a collective ownership (requiring presumably some manner of management) versus individual ownership (that permits capitalism if people have full freedom to trade).
The left isn’t necessarily opposed to ownership or freedom to trade. Nor is capitalism just freedom to trade. Capitalism is a set of exploitative property relations based on a fake contract (the employer-employee contract). In this contract, the legal responsibility for the entire result of production is assigned to the employer despite the workers’ joint de facto responsibility for that result. This violates the basic tenet that legal and de facto responsibility match
ALL Leftists according to rightists: “all I want is basic needs met, obviously anyone who doesn’t grant a toddler universal basic income, and free on demand sex change surgery and accompanying hormones is obviously a nazi. Also, fuck white people, fuck men, fuck anyone in an incumbent demographic category. Simply by being male and white you should immediately pay reparations for daring to exist. Anyone who even asks about any of these subjects is committing a crime and should never be allowed to speak again. Also it’s illegal to not be attracted to fat people”
ALL Rightists according to leftists: “Anyone who I’m too stupid to understand shouldn’t exist. There is no middle ground or grey area on anything, it’s my way or the highway. All minorities shouldn’t exist at all, no one should exist who doesn’t conform to my specific set of arbitrary values. Anyone who says otherwise is a communist and hates themselves. Literally everyone must die. The police never make mistakes and any form of authority must be taken as 100% true at face value”
Centrists: “you both seem extremely closed-minded and I’m struggling to come to any conclusion other than being extreme is bad, and that these are complex subjects. I will try to focus on not being extreme.”
Yeah anyone can write literally anything you fucking idiots
Edit: how you know you were right - butthurt downvotes without accompanying replies
When your only idea to solve problems is violence you don’t care for having people’s needs met, you just want to dominate others and still claim to be the good guy. I see that on the side of “the left” and you can distance yourself from that without becoming right wing or conservative.
USA: we don’t have a left. Democrats are at best center.
You don’t have a right either though, at least not a right on the democratic spectrum.
All you’ve got are “unacceptable” and “fascism”.
The left: we’re gonna spy on everyone to make sure you’re fine and doing well!
The right: dude nobody’s looking who cares
Centrists: are either of you sure and aware of your statements?
Far left: we’re going to dress in all black and burn buildings down to protest racism of which many of the shops will be locally owned by people of color.
Far right: we’re going to ravage the civil liberties of every group of people that aren’t white religious old rich people and convince poor white people it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Centrists: You’re both fucked but one of you is less fucked I guess.
You’re both fucked but one of you is less fucked I guess.
Which one is that? Because moderates are outright refusing to compromise with leftists and progressives. Seems like they prefer fascists.
Left is in a pretty clear lead but you won’t find me handing out fliers to spread the word. I’m just watching in paralyzed horror.
Maybe if you told moderates they need to start compromising with leftists and progressives a few might listen.
Based on the overwhelmingly negative response to the left being criticized I understand why many Centrists stay center. Going either direction just feels morally compromising. I’ll still vote blue because I’m not insane but still, I’d never call myself Democrat.
Going either direction just feels morally compromising.
Supporting unions feels morally compromising? Refusing to send weapons to Israel feels morally compromising? Raising minimum wage feels morally compromising?
Get real.
Another excellent example of strawman.
Good lord… the comments on here proves that lemmy.world is flooded with politically incompetent libs that couldn’t tell the difference between left and right if their lives depended on it.
If you believe that there is such a thing as an actual “left” in formal political establishments, this means you.
