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Personally I’d say every single product and service being transparently wrapped in a personal information honeypot
Just give me your ID bro. It’s totally to protect the kids bro.
So like… all of it?
I like those note-taking apps that require my location for a better user experience
What do you mean you don’t want location tags in your notes?
Omg stop it, you are making me nervous. Okay, I will Accept terms and conditions
In case someone needs help:
Uber/Lyft
Airbnb
Bitcoin/Crypotocurrency
ChatGPT/LLMs
Because you have 2/4 general terms:
- Rideshare
- Short term rentals
- Crypto
- LLM
Cryptocurrency not Cryptography to disambiguate again
Thanks, new anxiety unlocked
Cryptozoology? I KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE FUCKING BIGFOOT!!!
Sorry, at this point the term “crypto” has been thoroughly claimed by the shysters.
Tales from the Crypt
“Rideshare” is also the least accurate term used to dodge regulations. It is just a taxi/cab. You are paying someone to get you from one place to another. They aren’t sharing their ride, they were never going where you are going before you told them to.
Taxis/cabs are legal. Also, perhaps because of age, I tend to view taxis and cabs as phone numbers you call for a car to show up (or go to a taxi stand), whereas I see rideshare as reserve via an app.
I think ride share really just means a vehicle that is used not solely for commercial purposes
They are legal if you follow the regulations. The problem with the “rideshare” companies is that they don’t. We should just call them “unregulated taxis” rather than pretending that they are a different service. I think just about every taxi company these days is on some app or another (often the same that call unregulated cabs in countries that actually got their shit together and banned the unregulated ones).
They literally changed the name of the company from UberCab to duck regulation.
It would have been cool if they’d renamed themselves “Calloway”.
I think just about every taxi company these days is on some app or another (often the same that call unregulated cabs in countries that actually got their shit together and banned the unregulated ones).
I’d like to point out this probably would have taken another 10-15 years to achieve had it not been for the disruption of said ridesharing apps.
Just because there’s a inconvenience for consumers doesn’t mean you make workers suffer instead of fixing the problem.
I’m assuming/ hoping you mean the taxi drivers when you say workers.
I empathize with anyone who’s livelihood is affected by changes in society. But stagnating progress because someone somewhere will be negatively impacted only assures no progress will ever be made.
Lmao as if the cab companies weren’t a cartel making their own regulations.
I use a local cab company. They smartened up after getting crushed by uber in the first couple years of their existence. Now they have an app that’s similar to uber, but I just call and use the web link that shows me where the car is.
It’s literally the same service, but I have to give my info to Uber’s app to get it.
shouldnt 4 also include AI generated images?
Better term would probably be generative AI to also cover music, video and my grandmother’s soul.
Llms generate those afaik
No, those are generally diffusion models, not large language models. Language models generate text.
Uber/Lyft
Airbnb
Apart from the recently added surge pricing, what else is illegal about these 2?
dependent on where you are, they are textbook skirting the law. uber got crushed when they launched in sweden because taxi drivers need to do basically the same training as bus drivers. it’s an extra letter on your license, with all that entails of age limits, theory and practical tests, x amount of time driven a year etc.
nowadays ubers in sweden are just taxis, which hilariously means that they by law have to have a price list on the cars. which basically kneecaps their entire business model.
Taxis and hotels used to be strongly regulated industries. For both, permits were required as well as regular checks. But Uber/Lyft/Airbnb created a system outside of the standard legal framework, allowing them to run an almost lawless business. So I wouldn’t say illegal but ethically grey.
oic, I guess it doesn’t make much of a difference where relevant laws are either pretty lax or inadequately executed.
Forgot “Glorified Pump-&-Dump scheme” (NFT’s)
NFTs are basically Bitcoin and fall under fake money for criminals.
Nah it’s worse. Bitcoin actually has legitimate uses. (Yes, they are a minority of actual usage, but they exist.) NFTs are only useful for speculation, gambling and money laundering.
Bitcoin actually has legitimate uses
Ransomware.
Bitcoin’s only legitimate use cases are a worse, slower and more expensive eletronic money transfer. In other words, there aren’t any.
Stamp collecting for criminals
“Expensive cartoon monkey pictures”
I personally hate the “thanks to AI you now can speak to your dead relatives” ones. Especially those ones which try to spin it like a personal story for the developer of the app. Oh shut up, you would sell your own mother for money. And also you are too late to jump on that bandwagon so get lost, we have enough of you leeches.
Literally the exact plot of a black mirror episode.
I swear there are some people watching Black Mirror and furiously taking notes
And it was such a heartbreaking experience, I dont know who saw that and said yes daddy please.
Also the hit comedy Small Wonder that ran from 1985-1989?
I HATED that show.
Well black mirror is a documentary
On a related note, I personally hate the AI partner/friend ones as well, where it’s clearly preying on the lonely, insecure, or desperate. It’s dastardly, dystopian, and frankly, quite sad. How many children’s media show rich children as being quite miserable sods whose parents think that not having friendship can be resolved by buying their kids a friend?
You could easily see that being in a cyberpunk story, where you can rent a friend or partner from a megacorporation, but if you don’t pay the rent, they’ll be repossessed and deleted/destroyed. The data would be collected and used regardless.
yeah was gonna mention those too but hate the relatives one even more passionately so focused on that.
That’s a pretty cool idea for a story, actually. I’d totally steal that if I wasn’t so lazy
The Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus.
How about
- reinventing trains but worse
- rocketing amount of space launches filling up junk
- we deliver everything but once we take over it’ll all be crap rip off products (for slave wages)
- we deliver any food by people who can’t drive (for slave wages)
- we’ll create algorithms to enforce society divisions and hurt mental health of children
- we’ll take over a popular platform and make it even more disgusting and fascist
Need to add illegal gambling to the list
Naw, crime is legal now.
What’s worse?
Illegal gambling in traditional sense (poker, dice, slots, etc) or legal gambling loopholes like video game lootboxes? 🤔
Probably loot boxes since it more directly targets children
Much like flavored tobacco or alcoholic drinks directly target children. /s
Downvote but no argument? It’s exactly the same kind of logic being used to push age verification laws.
Protecing children is a parents job first and foremost, all the excuses I hear from parents read to me like maybe you shouldn’t have had children if you can’t dedicate the time to educating yourself and watching over their activities to a minimal degree.
All the laws being proposed and implemented generally just impact adults much more then children anyway.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b3c5d436-a7ba-4657-8a9d-0fec9edce801.png?thumbnail=1500&format=webp
It so happens that stuff useful for criminals is sometimes also useful for political dissidents or simply people who consider the country’s laws too oppressive. Encrypted communication is another example of this.
sometimes
and sometimes firearms are used in defense.
do the valid reason justify the illicit reasons? you’ll certainly say they do but I’m a bit more undecided.
Even and especially in those cases cryptocoins are a very bad idea. Just because it’s “a” solution doesn’t mean it’s a good one
To be fair, all money is fake and used by criminals
The leader of the country that prints the world’s reserve currency is a convicted felon so that tracks.
Yeah but is it destroying the environment? Also yes.
Except real money is used for taxes and government spending. Fake money is needed only by criminals.
What would we do without capitalist innovation? Before capitalism, nothing was invented. Look at us now!
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Where’s “video games that you never actually own, but at least you pay to beat them”?
Where’s “removal of a common phone feature, because if you don’t buy a $528 external DAC and a $9164 planar headphones, you’ll be okay with a pair of raycons”?
Where’s “video games that you never actually own, but at least you pay to beat them”?
This new and groundbreaking technological innovation?

So gatcha games are just video games returning to their roots?
It gets funnier when people do everything they can to not even play them, even paying to cheat
It’s like Idiocracy and the waiting guy
https://media.tenor.com/k8VaJE8rchAAAAAM/patience-waiting.gif
“Exploiting immigrants to deliver food”
Wait till you learn about their latest innovation!
Exploiting individuals from other countries to bypass labor laws in the country of business operation via distributed outsourcing. Why even pay minimum wage in the US?
I like this meme every time I see it here on anarchist forums.
well now we can add on: “illegal gambling on literally everything”
and “1984 level surveillance being sold to the government instead of being done by them directly so somehow legal”
… maybe something about giant ai networks of murder robots waging war?
fuck why did we have to get the worst cyberpunk sci-fi future….I wish it was literally everything. I want to buy Trump insurance.
Oooh 16% chance by December! You’ve brightened my day.
well that percentage is just determined by
bettingpurchases of stocks related to the outcome of a prediction….
and i think magats are over represented on there, so i’d put the odds at higher than that.
i’ll put the cynicism behind a spoiler tag butspoiler for brightened days
president jd vance will be worse than president trump… also trump being impeached was always part of the Proj 2025 plan. We could end up with V.P. Steve Bannon, then JD could resign and then, Adolph’s your uncle.
I like this comment every time I see it posted in response to this meme. Then I hit subscribe, then I SMASH THAT BELL ICON SO YOUR MOBILEK SHIVERS WITH ECSTACY IN YOUR POCKET WHENEVER I POST AN UPDATE
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Fake money for criminals is speaking of USD here?
Just because it grows at 8% doesnt mean its fake, its also fake because the Fed is a corrupt institution that stopped caring about measuring real inflation a long time ago.
or it’s, y’know, crypto
Thor’s voice: “All money is made-up”
Crypto currency. Bit coin’s primary use case is crime, money laundering, drugs, assassination, ransomware. For normal transactions, it’s too slow and expensive, but for crime, that’s not a problem.
Also, USD is not a recent tech innovation.
For normal transactions, it’s too slow and expensive, but for crime, that’s not a problem.
I’m no lover of Bitcoin, but this is just false. Using the Lightning Network (basically a Layer 2 application on top), transactions are near instant and cost only pennies.
Using the Ethereum network and L2s, which has an energy expenditure less than that of your dishwasher, you can move money instantly and for basically fee. There’s a reason big corporations like Visa and countless others are heavily investing in and building on Ethereum: it’s faster and cheaper than legacy tradfi rails. Also, it’s a pretty good way to get aid to Gaza and other war-ravaged countries, pay for privacy-respecting email and VPNs, etc.
primary use case is crime, money laundering, drugs, assassination, ransomware
In fact, crypto has moved on from 2009-era use cases: https://ethereumadoption.com/usecases/
I admit I haven’t been keeping up recently. These are relatively new changes then. I remember when a transaction cost $25 and 7 minutes. (Or was it the other way around?) In any case, that wasn’t practical for anyone except organised crime, which is largely where it got that reputation. And the fact that crime is still a major user.
These are relatively new changes then
Not really. Lightning has been around for many years. Ethereum transitioned to Proof of Stake back in 2022. Layer 2s on Ethereum went live in 2021-2023, continuing on and ever expanding up until today.
I remember when a transaction cost $25 and 7 minutes
For Bitcoin mainnet, this may still be the case, however in practicality 1) that’s still faster than tradfi settlement times (ACH takes 5-7 days to settle), 2) depending on the amount of money you’re moving, $25 might be very cheap, 3) most people will use Lightning if they value speed and cheap fees. With Ethereum, block times are every 12 seconds or something like that. So actually it’s not only fast but very consistent. Fees [on Ethereum] have been very cheap since blockspace demand has been muted the past couple years, however like Bitcoin most people prefer to use Layer 2s
In any case, that wasn’t practical for anyone except organised crime
that’s just simply not true.
And the fact that crime is still a major user.
I’ve got news for you, tradfi ain’t much better. Regardless, there’s a large and growing list of use cases that don’t involve “crime”: https://ethereumadoption.com/built-on-ethereum?view=byEntity. Exchanges, lending and borrowing, mortgages, insurance, derivatives, pay day loans, no-loss lotteries, social media, collectables, identification, certifications, streaming salaries, …















