I despise this type of podcasts… just idiots (generally) rambling about themselves or shit they know nothing about.
oh shit
i hate that bro
So, I was 5 minutes in … 2 minutes ad. Knowadamsayin?
Oh shit bro. I know what you’re saying.
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so 99.99% of podcasts
maybe… but back when I had time to actually listen to a few podcasts, I had no trouble finding better ones that did not devolve into this shitty format
it helped that the number of people who have a podcast wasn’t quite as close to the number of people who have access to the internet as it is today.
Certainly!
How do you find one without spending weeks searching?
I’m an old fart… Back in my day I had less garbage to sift through
Ah that makes sense. I remember not getting the concept when they came out and then finding too many options when I looked later.
Through recommendations of other users. A list of things I used to listen to at some point:
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My Favorite Murder
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The NoSleep Podcast
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Welcome to Night Vale
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Limetown
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EOS 10
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A Problem Squared
They’re all close to 100% scripted and all but the first and the last one are fictional stories. So they’re more like an audiobook than anything, except they’re created with this form factor in mind, rather than just being a book read out loud.
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Specifically why I’ve never successfully listened to a podcast.
Plenty of good podcasts, but they are either 100% scripted to stay on topic, or they have the good sense to edit down the improv tangential rambles so that the podcast stays on topic.
Unsurprisingly it tends to be older (35+) people with some kind of professional experience putting out the better stuff. The 20-something dudebro postcasts where they just wing it the whole time are awful.
dudes rock
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40 minute podcast about [subjext] is 10 minutes of actual content, 30 minutes of riffing, going off on tangents, taking about their other podcasts, sponsors, talking about their next podcasts, talking about each other, their day, etc…
You have not heard Dan Carling’s hardcore history podcast
I see what you are saying and agree it’s often the case, but there are gems out there
I know his podcasts well, I’ve listened to a lot of them. I’ve listened to far more podcasts that are more interested in hearing themselves talk.
Cracks open a can of beer right into the mic
This is why I almost exclusively listen to podcasts that are scripted, like casefile, freakonomics, this American life, radio lab, wait wait don’t tell me, etc.
Before this, all too often I would find myself listening to people aimlessly chatting about what they had for breakfast and such, and I realized those that scripted their episodes made for a tremendously better listening experience.
The only unscripted podcasts I listen to are D&D sessions
Adventure AI
I think radiolab is largely unscripted and also they leave a lot in that other podcasts would edit out. Imo this all makes the show as good as it is. It feels more authentic to me than a show like freakonomics for example. It’s more like hanging out with several people who are mostly really intelligent and who ask good questions of others who can often provide smart answers. I love radio lab so much… just my two cents as to why it’s that good.
Radiolab is very much scripted and it’s one of the best podcasts ever forever
“Loops” is my favorite episode.
NPR podcasts are generally made as audio documentaries, which is a combination of scripted sections and edited interviews.
Yusss. And I love them.
If it’s “very much scripted” that would make me think there aren’t utterances not written down ahead of time. I don’t doubt a lot of it is scripted/outlined, but if it really is strictly so, they’re absolutely crazy good at consistently hiding it.
Oh there’s a lot of off-the-cuff/improvised stuff for sure! But the structure of every episode is very much scripted. Also I’m sorry some douche downvoted you, you’re not at all wrong.
I agree that the structure is very planned. Definitely a lot of intentional decisions going on there. Thanks for the validation! Sometimes Lemmy puzzles me with the things people are so quick to dispute, and often it’s really just a matter of describing things slightly differently like we did here.
Radiolab is SO GOOD THO. If you haven’t listened to “Loops”, please do! It’s so hilarious and interesting.
“The Living Room” made both my partner and myself cry, as well.
Oh, also the episode where they discuss the symbiosis in forests and how in a sense the forest is almost like a super organism. So fascinating!
It really is such a good show. I forget so many episodes until I listen to them again years later! I think I’ve heard both of those, judging by their summaries online but I can’t be sure right off. My memory is crap but I always have loved the episode where they talk about color and how different animals experience it. I’ve listened to it maybe 3 times and it gives me chills each time. So damned good.
I appreciate the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast, which has scripted readings punctuated by the hosts talking about the story being read.
Two important factors that make it work: First, the hosts are knowledgeable and engaged with the topic, which means their commentary actually feels like it contributes something. Second, when they do start to ramble too long, the editing just hard cuts them off and goes back on topic.
Casefile is a slog. I think its fascinating but it will eat away at your soul after a while and the host knows it cause it’s everything he can do to stay sane.
The others are top tier podcasts but once you’ve caught up, if you last that long, it’s forever between releases.
Isn’t wait wait don’t tell me a game show?
Well there’s your problem. It’s partly scripted. They have an agenda to go through, but they do some improvisation.
I tried to listen to a Kubernetes podcast once, where they talk to engineers who created it. They just fucking ramble about sports and unrelated bullshit for about an hour and I never listened to another episode.
It’s nice to be in a room with someone who knows their shit, and never actually talk about the shit they know about, and instead connect to them at a human level.
But that’s not useful for podcast listeners.
It was probably a lot more interesting… but yea, not useful if you’re there to hear about k8s.
I guess let me see if anyone wants to listen to it, released TODAY:
Listen to ®hodes & (B)reaks All Day by Thassodar on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/GNNMq
Check out the rest of my stuff at www.linktr.ee/thassodar, I’ve got 4 years of music on SoundCloud and various streaming platforms!
Reporting in that I did, in fact, want to listen to it, and did so. Thank you for sharing your work!
Thanks for taking the time to listen! Generally I don’t use Lemmy to promote, but when the chance arrives
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SoundCloud link is broken for me and it’s not on Tidal, but I’m vibing to ThassChill Vol.1 at work rn. Digging it, you got a follow
Aww snap, here’s a new link:
https://on.soundcloud.com/tGU4f
I will typically drop several tracks on SoundCloud for a few months, pick the best ones, and then release an EP/Album with those good ones and a few originals.
SC makes it easy to post a track the same day and update or edit it, when I distribute through Spotify, Tidal, et al., it’s more permanent so I make sure everything is PERFECT before uploading to there. I know you weren’t asking for all this info but…yeah.
Worked, thanks. I like the vibraphone, whole track had a chill jazz jam feel to it. Keep up the good work my dude
Thank you!
Jumping on your bandwagon, I made this alt just to post my music today because of this post.
I’ve been making ambient music since 2008 (and before, probably) mostly kept it on my computer or dumped it to various sites and did no promo work 👍
I’ve dropped so many podcasts where the title was promising an interesting topic, but then inside it’s just these dudebros rambling about nothing. I don’t understand how some of these podcasts have so much popularity.
It’s a stable opportunity because of para social people.
I stopped listening to Second Wind’s podcasts because of this. 1h45 on a topic I’m interested in? Amazing! Turns out half of it is the hosts catching up with each other and reading chat.
In the end, people just like hearing familiar voices. If you trick people into getting familiar with your voice, it doesn’t matter what’s being said as much as it seems.
I’m the same way. I don’t mind tangents that lead up to, or remain adjacent to, the primary topic. But if they get into small talk I’m out.
I’ve literally done this like 6 times with writing. I start writing something and after like 3 sentences I say “who the fuck do I think I am that anyone would give a shit about what I have to write!?” I’ve never gotten past one paragraph.
I don’t know why comments feel different, it’s probably because I use social media to just vent my frustrations and express just how much I loath who I am. Sorry for using Lemmy as my therapist! :P
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A wise man will think twice before speaking and then say nothing.
But this is the internet
“It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.” ~ Maurice Switzer
A lesson I’m way too stupid to ever learn.
DOH!
Lol I have absolutely done that more than I care to admit as well.
Sometimes it’s just not worth it. It’s nice to be able to workshop your thoughts, and then you’ve work shopped it so much that it’s just not worth posting - the user you’re responding to probably won’t care or will antagonize, sometimes your thoughts change as you’re typing them, sometimes it just doesn’t make sense and there’s no point in re-writing something that ultimately contributes very little to anything except your own self-expression.
Love yourself, The world’s a hard, strange place. Keep your chin up. Don’t hate yourself for what you were born into.
When I was in my early 20s, I read this poem And it stuck with me .
Desiderata - Words for Life Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
Love yourself, The world’s a hard, strange place. Keep your chin up. Don’t hate yourself for what you were born into.
It’s really odd to say, but this is the absolute most difficult thing in the world for me to do. Every single day I am confronted with example after example of my own ineptitude. They say not to compare yourself to others but then you can’t ever push past your shortcomings because you won’t recognize them. Unfortunately I feel as if I have a rather large excess of shortcomings and an embarrassingly miniscule number of talents.
(This is where I’d more often than not do as the comment below mentions and just delete this comment, but I appreciate your response. I wanted to respond but I’m not really looking for an answer, I don’t think there is one for me.)
Ahhh, when I use to write fanfic I thought the same way but came to the opposite conclusion.
I am writing for me, I want to write it and read it, and I’ll throw this into the ocean of other fanfics and no longer care if anyone else wants to read it. If they do, it’s there for them.
You’d be surprised how often one fanfic in a sea of fanfics can leave a lasting impression on someone.
It’s a good way to look at it, but I find it most difficult to do anything just for me. If I’m not doing something for someone else I don’t care to be doing it at all. That is more than likely just due to my depression though.
Depression does suck! Hope it gets less worse! I haven’t written fanfic in a few years because of it myself, but mostly over not doing much of uhh…anything! Except canning. I can eat the canned food! Can’t eat the words.
Lol same. I think it’s probably because commenting is more like normal conversation; you’re responding to other people in ways that are specifically meaningful to the circumstances. Writing is sorta like talking to the void in my mind. I find I spend much more time thinking and checking and re-reading to make sure I’m appealing to my imagined audience, rather than just contributing a sentence or two to a conversation where the audience is a bit more concrete.
I forget the specifics and who came up with it, but: pick an amount you haven’t written before. Then, write that much without looking back. If you can set your word processor to only keep your current line visible, even better. Once you’ve written that many paragraphs or pages, do a fast edit. Use a timer so you can’t linger. Then write that much again with the same strategy. After 3-5 times, do a more thorough edit of the whole thing.
It’s not necessarily how you always want to write, but it can help getting over that initial confidence block as an exercise.
It’s so hard. I swear I try writing lyrics for songs. And the entire time I’m just like “God, I’m so bad at this. Nobody will like any of this” then I move on to a new song. Rinse and repeat.
Yeah, but what’s the name of the podcast?
Trash taste
Downloading 100 episodes now.
EDIT:
Stop Podcasting Yourself’s name is literally a commentary on these exact type of podcasts. SPY is wildly popular and has entire reoccurring segment called, “overheards” where they talk about things they overheard.
If that is trash taste, trash is whats for dinner.
I can hear Connor in this image saying “I hate that bro”
Some people have to survive on trash, and that’s fine.
Talent can improve vastly in time, too.
I would’ve expected “Dunning & Kruger’s reaction channel”
Joe Rogan
“bro that’s why you bring your cooler if you’re buying ice cream bro”
i wish i could understand the appeal of listening to people sitting around flapping their faceholes about pointless shit
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That was my entire idea for a podcast. Thanks for shitting on my dream. I guess I’ll never start it now.
With that attitude, better become a Musician pronto
Funny you should say that. I’m already a terrible musician. I’ve got a solo gig and a band gig this weekend. I just wanted the podcast to complete my middle aged white dude punch card because my cargo shorts just got here the other day.
- if a random comment on the internet is enough to destroy
your dream
then it was a weak and shitty dream. Get a new one.
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do it anyway. Who cares. You know what’s the worst that could happen? You try, and it doesn’t work out and then you can look back at it and consider it “gave it a good shot, didn’t work out”. And then you can point to all the people who still sit on their couch and didn’t even try.
It’s a form of parasocial relationship. It can trigger the same feelings as if you were in a room with some friends chatting. You get to “know” the people’s personalities, you can anticipate their reactions to things, you get invested in their personal relationships.
Like the Kardashians for middle-aged men.
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Man, I know. Especially when they go off the actual topic and start talking about some random shit while cackling like a bunch of dumbasses.
Oh shit. I hate that bro.
Yeah and I mean these people are just sitting around talking about the most mundane stuff as if anybody would be interested in hearing it.
Oh shit. I hate that bro.
I listen to My Brother, My Brother and Me because I like to listen to the three brothers be funny at each other.
Some people don’t need or want intellectually challenging media all the dang time.
Episodes 1-250 were great. They’re insufferably flanderized now.
Every time I see these kinds of d-bags, I hear Bum Bag’s “another white boy with a podcast” in my head.
Short version: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UMgKKhzRAkE
Full song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlczKlmIDM
Everyone starts out with shortcomings. No one is born with talent. Learning something you want to do is easier than ever with YouTube and the internet.
Think positive, take what you want.
Another white boy with a podcast
Literally HeavyMetalHangover lol
