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    We have 64 bit multi-core CPUs unconstrained by clock speeds, RAM, bus bottlenecks, instructions sets, addressing modes, registers, or storage speeds. Monitors are beyond visual resolution, graphics are pumped out at a rate of zillions and gazillions of 32 bit pixels per second. How can any software be anything less than instantaneous these days? How can this modern bloated AI-dreamt high-level sludge code be as slow as my Commodore 64 booting GEOS from a 5.25" floppy?

    The mouse button shouldn’t even have time to bounce up from my finger releasing it and the screen should already be loaded.

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      Companies running 10-20 year old hardware and the amount of spyware that exists nowadays gets in the way

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        And better hardware means there is no longer a requirement to optimise.

        What was “if we don’t make this code more efficient, it won’t run on modern computers”, turned into “we don’t need to make this code efficient because modern computers will be able to run it”

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          You see this with video games, too, where PC games are better optimized when they’re multiplatform releases that also are on one or more consoles near the end of their sales life, just because they had to make it run smoothly on hardware that was comparatively out of date.

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    And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.

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      Interestingly they did the same with Word 97: loaded Office at startup so the individual Office applications would seem to launch faster.

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    I switched to LibreOffice more than a decade ago and I never missed Microsoft Office 🤷‍♀️

    (EDIT: I don’t mean this dogmatically, there are plenty of times I have had to compromise and go back to proprietary software, but LibreOffice really has successfully replaced Microsoft Office for me - it’s just as feature-rich and reliable with a similar UI. Google Sheets has a few features that I like and which aren’t in LibreOffice or MS Office, but I only use that for work when I need a collaborative sheet.)

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      Another libreoffice user here. Published a couple of academic works edited entirely on it, and no one complained about formatting errors. Things have improved a lot in the last years. We also have onlyoffice as another great alternative

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        +1 I used LibreOffice all through university, wrote dozens of papers, did class presentations, résumés, etc. Never had a problem. I use it at work too and collaborate with O365 users often.

        Such an awesome piece of software. I used OnlyOffice as well, really nice if you don’t need the fancier features that LibreOffice has.

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          Wait isn’t OnlyOffice more feature wise closer to MS office, and with a more similar layout? Used it shortly but realized I like the “older” non ribbon UI of LO, but I’m still relearning the old office layout.

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            It’s designed to be more compatible with MS’ .docx formats, less weird formatting issues when converting between them. But the actual features it has is less than LibreOffice.

            Two different focuses, LibreOffice is designed with more powerful features and uses the .odf file format by default.

            OnlyOffice is lighter weight and designed with MS Office compatibility first and foremost, although both suites support both file formats and in my experience, both work great with either file types and for basic users, have all the features you would need.

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    But now windows takes longer to boot and is too slow because ms office is always running in the background. +1 for reasons to use linux.

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      I’m constantly shocked how poorly Windows 11 runs on brand new high end hardware.

      My current company uses brand new $1,500 HP enterprise grade laptops and they frequently freeze up, stutter, and get really hot from basic office work.

      My old Debian servers I used to have there were running butter smooth with KDE Plasma on 12 year old hardware.

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    I’m forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin

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      Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.

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      Yep, it’s quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.

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      Obligatory Windows is trash and f those guys. Something about Dolphin turns me off tho. Thinking about exploring new file explorers.

      I can’t seem to find a view I like in Dolphin. Everything I try I still end up with these two columns when I’d rather have one compact list.

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    It is so weird, I remember Office 97 loading very fast on Intel Pentium 3. Now suddenly it needs preloading on startup with 4-6 core PCs…

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      It would be awesome if we could map the increase in hardware demands on popular software by each new feature, design changes, and other minor changes added over time.

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      Recently installed office 2000 via bottles/wine on linux. The installation was so quick that i thought it crashed.

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    Coming soon to your neck of the woods… Copilot OS! Now with no Windows, only Copilot and a shitty embedded MS Edge. Everything you know as Windows is hidden behind an enforced Microsoft account which you cannot bypass or opt-out! Oh—and don’t forget—you now need a PC with 64GB DDR6789 RAM, RBG+ chipset with tiny peener cache, 2 BRAIN TRACING GPUs, SUPER SECURE BOOT, TrustClock, Lie Detector, Bio-metric reader created by NSA, and their secret time bomb tracker that will secretly ghost all your data at a moments notice and require you to purchase the subscription to ALL STAR MEGA SUPER SONIC ULTRA CLOUD DATA WAREHOUSE. Oh, but hey, at least it’s software upgradable…

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        What? You live in a lower income country and doesn’t have a reliable internet connection and a high spec machine? Our board of directors have a personal message for you:

        spoiler

        “Fuck you!”

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    i’m just surprised HOW they are able to make text editor apps so heavy and slow. seriously, HOW??

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      There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.

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    They shouldn’t have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90’s computer.