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The tool, which is able to cut lines at depths of up to 4,000 metres (13,123 feet) – twice the maximum operational range of existing subsea communication infrastructure – has been designed specifically for integration with China’s advanced crewed and uncrewed submersibles like the Fendouzhe, or Striver, and the Haidou series.
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That country fucking sucks ass.
they’re also experimenting with dogfighting satellites
That country fucking sucks major ass. Space lasers when?
We literally have starlink and the US run by fascists with nukes. I don’t mind seeing other countries that they threaten ready to combat their information systems.
Yeah, but that’s only as long as they target the US with their bullshit. Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones (spoiler it’s gonna be Europe).
Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones
Fr dawg.
Also, I don’t really want to have to learn Mandarin, nom sayin’?
I’m firmly in middle age and don’t have the mental capacity to memorize 30,000 Chinese characters or whatever the count is.
You don’t have the mental capacity to learn mandarin? lol that’s pretty nicely worded. I simply don’t have the fucks and would rather die than learn that language. I had enough trouble with French. And they use „normal“ letters.
Nothing about france can be called normal even with quotation marks.
Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?
Idk. That at least has some mild benefits for the countries. In the form of investions and infrastructure.
Cutting cables is just an act of war if you ask me.
Cutting cables is different than “I can cut cables dont touch me.”
That seems less concerning to me after reading the article.
Russia and the US are also known to conduct proximity operations to their own and other satellites, she added.
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Referring to China’s operations as “dogfighting” in space is “not helpful” because it “automatically ascribes hostile intentions to activities that frankly the US also undertakes,” Samson added.It’s concerning that they are developing the capability (which can be used in multiple ways) in the same way that any geopolitical rival developing capacity that competes is concerning, but “dogfighting” evokes the idea that China is planning to fly around and blow stuff up, in an irresponsible, Kessler syndrome-inducing way.
Yes, they’re smarter than us.
Thanks for the laugh.
Enjoy it while you can, they’re coming out on top.
“That could reset the world order”
Lmao, what hyperbolic bullshit. It’s just a cable cutter. Most nations have shit like this, but thanks for letting us know in the title this is just Chinese propaganda.
It will shift the orders from cables to starlink. Not the best idea tho, it sucks ass
Just wait! Then they’ll start flooding space with mini satellites. Then they’ll start dogfighting with them. :)
DOGEfighting
You’re like a day behind on the news 😄
I knew when I wrote it 🙈
Powerful seems like a pointless adjective here.
It doesn’t take much power to destroy a cable. Did they invent a really long, and powerful, chain with a powerful anchor on it only usable by a boat with powerful electric winch?
Maybe they put AI in it too, for extra power of course
Oh you mean the AI Pro Power Winch 9000? Available at a genocidal dictatorship near you for 3 easy payments of 19.99B USD.
No shit, lol. Those cunts have been cutting cables for almost a year now. This is why countries tend to hide the exact locations of cables. Shit is expensive.
…as reported by the South China Morning Post lol
Historically they were a solid paper, based out of Hong Kong. It’s a toss up these days though, not sure.
let’s hope it’s bs
They already do it by simply dragging boat anchors across, it’s obviously going to be weaponized further. There have multiple data and power cables cut like this in the Baltic sea recently. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/30/europe/baltic-sea-cable-anchor-drag-russia-intl-latam/index.html
max depth of baltic sea is 1,500 ft
And it was done with something no designed for this purpose. Why is it hard to conceive that a tool designed for it would do much better?
because military subs can’t go that deep. It’s a lot harder to police.
I don’t think they need to send people down or even complex sensors, they could use a similar dumb tactic, as above, of dragging something heavy for kilometers, until they can confirm that there was a disruption on the network.
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This could have been a The Onion title
If I had that type of technology I would not advertise it
A doomsday device is useless if no one knows you have it.
“why didn’t you tell the world, eh?”
For me it’s quite the opposite. It’s all about power projection in the grand scheme of things.
Fucker McGucker, this is evil
I mean, no? Ok let’s say you did cut off the internet, there’s still radio. Shortwave still can reach spies in foreign countries with their numbers stations now, and then there’s VHF/UHF at home etc. Snail mail still exists, so does ol’ fashioned landlines for communication at least internally even if they cut undersea telcom cables, hell I’m pretty sure CDMA would still be running, this sets us back to like 1990 at most, especially if we take this threat seriously and start implementing non-internet based (or sat internet) fallbacks just in case standard comms go down for a while until a new cable can be lain.
Like don’t get me wrong, we’d definitely feel the effects, but this isn’t some kind of world dominating shit we’re talking about here, it’s just pretty inconvenient, especially if we already have alts in place as fallbacks so we don’t have to scramble to set them up.
The knock on effects of substantial infrastructure interruptions like this can have massive impacts that snowball aggressively. Not saying you’re wrong, but it is nothing to scoff at. Things like this do have the potential to severely change the geopolitical landscape.
I’m not saying it’s nothing, just saying I think it’s massively overstated.
SATCOM here we come!
Don’t worry, they’re working on satellite warfare too. Kessler syndrome, here we come
Working on the thing we’ve had for half a century? Improving sure but thaad and kenetic kill devices have been around forever like South Korea just showed video of their testing which means it’s almost certainly last gen and the new Gen is deployed.
I sincerely hope they’re smart enough not to trigger that.
Someone posted an article elsewhere on the thread about China practicing “dogfighting” in space - which, after you remove the fear-mongering, is just them figuring out how to do satellite-satellite maneuvering. Still immense opportunity for runaway collisions, but it seems like the military applicability is more toward sabotage than blowing things up. I could definitely see a scenario where high value satellites have had small boosters affixed to them, their electronics tampered, or some other way of commandeering or de-orbiting them to deprive their owners of them. A microwave + laser could disable smaller sats from above, then ablate some of their exterior to sap momentum so gravity drops them in short order. (Maybe. That’s idle speculation, but generating the power and dissipating the heat in space could make that idea impossible.)
Yeah, the only feasible way to do satellite warfare without creating a ton of debris is to mechanically attach to an enemy satellite and drop it out of orbit.
Like imagine an autonomous attacker satellite that clamps onto the target satellite, and uses thrusters to drop itself (and the target) into the ocean. Any kind of kinetic weaponry to destroy the target satellite will just end up with a debris cloud around the earth, making future space travel impossible.
But no country wants to invest in satellites just to intentionally drop them out of orbit. Every single attack would be prohibitively expensive when compared to just firing a missile at the satellite.
Weird way to pronounce starlink, since it seems that’s what they’re hoping for. Privatizing the government
Seriously… Anything but Starlink
Cool
So for every European deep sea cable cut it should send a fleet of Russian and Chinese ships to the bottom, torpedo the fuckers. Just by default presume it was either of them and make then responsible for the safety of our cables. If you fail to protect our cables, we’ll send your ships to the next life.
Gloves. Off.
Exactly what I’ve been screaming. Hang the captain and first mate, scuttle the fucking ship. This shit needs to be treated as piracy, no quarter given.
Luckily capital punishment is banned in most countries.
And that attitude is why China continues to test us, they know we’re pussies. You should see what they’re pulling on Vietnam and the Philippines in the South China Sea.
I really don’t care.
Capital punishment is immoral and that’s that.
Glad you’re in a society that is able to entertain that notion. Looks like that society is going to collapse. Good luck.
From my point of view the country most famous for its death punishment is collapsing.
If only cables can be designed to pull down ships that try to cut or anchor drag them. Maybe defensive cable around the main cable. Or some kind bigger of casing/shell around actual cable.
That’s not how reality works… You can’t make the cable pull down the ship. And even if you could they’d just lose the anchor
Making them lose the anchor by getting it trapped is good too.
Coming soon to vague shell corporation owned fishing boats to the shore of the Baltic and Northern seas!
Sponsored by China and Russia
Reset the world order by sending everybody including China back to stone age right? That’d be fun.
Well, everybody except people hooked up to Starlink and other satellite based internet
You realize that data comes from the same place, right?
Are we talking about the data? I understand the hosts and servers are fine, but if the cables are all destroyed, we will have to rely on access to satellite internet. They are actively economically attacking Verizon, canceling contracts they had and replacing them with SpaceX ones.
Like have ANY of you EVER roleplayed in DnD or like, done anything? Are you just chronically bamboozled? Genuinely curious. I talk to ppl like this all day every day - are you just stupid? Am I stupid for being here talking to you all trying to communicate what’s happening?
Maybe you’re just dissociated and unable to register everything. Idk. Jesus.
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