• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    if you think the end goal isn’t to just criminalize unauthorized fucking (for women), then you’re not paying attention

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      That’s just the validation to their base of ignoramuses who’ve been deluded into believing the root cause of our societal decline is women having rights.

      The actual goal of our owners with abortion/contraceptive bans (for the poors, they’ll always have both) is to maximize the number of desperate wage slaves in the pipeline to be consumed as batteries for the private of profits and ego scores of the owners and their nepo dynasties. The owners aren’t against women in the workforce like their rube Republican voters, they’re the ones that made two incomes a necessity for a family to survive, solely to maximize the growth/metastasis of their ego scores because 1 wage slave per household wasn’t recklessly growing their quarterly earnings fast enough.

      The war on poor women is just another battle in the only real war, the one we aren’t willing to fight back on as we’re deluded into fantasizing about being on the winning side; the class war. Conditions will continue to get worse until men, women, progressives, and regressives alike recognize our true common enemies in their towers, clubs, luxury complexes, and guard gated communities, using their media machines to stoke our infighting as they divide and profit, burning the world as they do.

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        maximize the number of desperate wage slaves in the pipeline

        Boom. Rich white men love fucking women and want abortion access. They might even genuinely love and respect women, like kinda - as individuals - minus what really matters (their treatment of the whole through policy).

        These losers aren’t waking up salivating about controlling somebody’s body when it comes to sex. They wake up wondering how they’re going to make more MONEY. And amass more power and the benefits and connections and respect that comes with it.

        If impoverished people must be sacrificed, it just doesn’t matter. The sacrifice is not the goal.*

        M-O-N-E-Y & power!

        This is important because it changes the way you fight.

        *(for most, obviously you’re always going to have some nut jobs who are in it for cruelty’s sake)

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          The problem has always been rampant capitalism.

          No system is without corruption, but late stage capitalism is fucking ugly

          I’m far more partial to a semi-planned economy, personally.

          Edit: additionally, although we are talking specifically about the states, I feel this image still applies to the discussion on class. For context, Tommy Douglas was the man responsible for Canada’s nationalized healthcare

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        The war on poor women is just another battle in the only real war, the one we aren’t willing to fight back on as we’re deluded into fantasizing about being on the winning side; the class war.

        Fucking bingo!

        I rarely see evil for the sake of evil as in “hating women because they hate women.” It’s almost always money

        “The pursuit of money at all costs is the root of all evil.”

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        you’re right. elizabeth warren actually gave a conference presentation on this before she ever even got into politics. but also the 1% shitting their pants over the declining birthrate is all about money. it doesn’t matter who’s spending the money to raise a kid (parents or taxpayers), all that money is going into someone’s pocket regardless. and consider that all the food, clothes, dr. appointments, medicine, gas, etc etc that is consumed just by one kid–that money isn’t spent if the kid was never born

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    Don’t worry though, the white self proclaimed socialists who swear they’re the only ones who take the threat of fascism seriously in this country will be there on that day to justify that Joe just didn’t make them want to vote for him enough to avert it being a 9-0 decision.

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      I can be a white self-proclaimed actual socialist complaining about Biden, hating having to vote for him, and still vote against fascism. You’re trying to reduce us all to villains throwing away democracy when you should be blaming the Dems for running shitty platforms that steer ever-rightward since the 90s and alienating unions, blue collar folks, and anyone who gives a fuck about stopping genocide.

      Wait, I think I get it… by blaming people like me (who, again, will vote for Biden against fascism, yet again) and people with similar politics, you don’t have to take responsibility for not demanding more of the Dems. I literally just realized this. It makes a lot more sense with that in mind.

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        If you need anything more than “the other guy is an actual fascist”, you’re not just not a leftist, you’re a fascist yourself.

        You don’t get to distance yourself from choosing to be a fascist just because other people made choices you don’t like.

        There is no combination of other people’s choices which gives permission for you to choose to be a fascist.

        I am honestly shocked and horrified I have to write all that out to you sir, madame, or other such title “actual socialist”, who probably at all other times will harp on about how da libz don’t take the threat of fascism seriously enough, while here you try to make excuses for the fascists in our midst because what, you think they make a good argument?

        They are fascists, they do not have arguments, they have words that are your abject failure as a leftist for allowing to spill out before delivering a swift and firm suckerpunch to the face.

        Fascists don’t get justified, they get bashed. End of story.

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          If you need anything more than “the other guy is an actual fascist”, you’re not just not a leftist, you’re a fascist yourself.

          Fuck you. I am of the punch-a-nazi mindset. I have advocated this elsewhere on Lemmy. You don’t know shit about my politics. For which fascists have I apologized? You can claim whatever you like about me without knowing me. Your arguments (regarding me) have no basis in reality.

          “Oh, let me complain about ‘so called leftists / socialists’ and then attack someone who claims to be on that side and tell them that they aren’t who they claim to be.” You must be great at parties.

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        Because we live in a society that treats thinness as the default and the ideal, so people only bother to train the AI to produce thin people. Plus size people are an afterthought in society and in AI.

        It’s default bias. The same reason why if I say “imagine a person”, most people imagine a white male.

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        I mean, it takes a long time for most humans to get hands right when learning to draw people as well. Hands are complicated; lots of bones for a comparatively small area and really complex joint structure.

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    Feels like they don’t even have a thing against reproduction. As time goes on, it’s harder and harder to not be convinced that they just get off on taking right away period.

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      They will know what the verdict is in Nov. but they will wait until late Jan. to announce if that’s the result.

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    Brought to you by miserable fundamentalists with a strong leaning towards fascism, and bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe stubborn idiots.