• Zeppo@sh.itjust.works
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    This is obviously such a ridiculous, cluelessly macho thing. For one, this isn’t the type of durability that matters to 99% of customers. It’s a bit more important that you know, the car doesn’t lock you out suddenly, lose body panels, have a catastrophic suspension failure, you know. Then, if it did somehow matter if your car is bulletproof, attackers aren’t going to be aiming at the body of the car, they would be shooting through the windows and windshield.

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    Testing? Testing with what? The cheapest crappiest frangible 9mm they could find?

    The real ballsy move is riding two wheels, where I’m going I don’t need imaginary armor panels around me.

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      Even if not, I doubt competitors are “shitting their pants” over this. Can’t say the bulletproofness rating topped the list of features I was looking for in my next car purchase

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          More important will be the ability to repair it yourself when things inevitably break. Given that musk is insanely petty and political, you would need to count on whittling Tesla parts from a piece of wood.

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            Or the fact that Cyber trucks rarely make it more than a few hundred miles (if that) before they shut themselves off. Also, if you are ever in an accident and it loses power, it may very well lock you in the vehicle while it burns you to death.

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              (Pre morning coffee brainwave)

              If someone wants DIY fix their Cybertruck, they should consider adding an isolated, self powered emergency door release mechanism. With explosive bolts. Now that would make it cyberpunk as fuck. Wait, that makes it more vulnerable to weapon fire. Shit now I really need my coffee

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            He can just shut it down if you’ve gone to [insert any liberal location Musk decides on]. Those things are tracking you and have remote everything that Tesla can control.

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        Places that have metal protecting you (legs), places not bullet proof, head and chest.
        Doesn’t sound that useful. Also the bridge I currently take to go to work as the main bridge is closed for updating for the next few months only supports 3 tons. So a cyber truck couldn’t get to my residence without taking a 7 mile detour each way.

        (Not that I was ever considering one nor could afford one)

        Edit to also add fun fact for those that maybe didn’t understand the size of a .22lr or a .223 listed above. .223 is also known as 5.56 NATO. though they sound similar in size, a .223 round has 10x the energy of a .22 (they are much larger and travel much faster)

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        Wait are the windows Bulletproof? Because I don’t think you can do that and still comply with safety regulations.

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      I went down a rabbithole recently because I was convinced of the same. Apparently this is the only claim that’s actually true. You can take your pick of videos on youtube. You can find things that will pen it, but not your random 9mm or other handgun.

      Having said that, it makes complete sense to me that the “I must be ready to dispense death at any moment” crowd also thinks they need a vehicle that is prepared to repel other people dispensing death at any moment.

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    Obligatory… The Cyber truck is not rated as bullet proof. This footage was most likely produced with cartridges that have just enough gun powder to cycle the gun’s action. Actual bulletproof vehicles are way more expensive.

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      This footage was most likely produced with cartridges that have just enough gun powder to cycle the gun’s action.

      Frankly, it’s probably not even that much. They probably used a bolt action and really light powder loads. I’d say maybe it’s a .22 but the dents look big for that.

      Edit: Someone else posted this a JerryRigEverything video- it apparently stops .22 and 9mm. I’m pretty surprised.

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        Looking it up, the doors are 1.8mm steel. At a 90 degree angle that’s enough to stop underpowered 9mm rounds reliably. It will stop most normal rounds fired at it, and especially start letting a lot through in areas with repeated stress. The second you hot load a round, use a heavy projectile or any kind of round with more potential than standard FMJ it’s all going through.

        And that has to be the right kind of steel too. Which is more expensive. So yeah I’m pretty sure they used underpowered rounds at the very least to create this visual.

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          Checked brandon herrera. Seems like its bullet resistant and can handle non hot or ap loads from 9mm and below pistols and that’s it. Still hard to believe since there’s all info is from big tech platforms and big youtubers who are all famous for their jorunalistic integrity.

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            1/4 inch is for armor that you want to be able trust and keep using. 3/16 inch or 4 mm will be the bare minimum for one time use. The Cyber truck is 1.8 mm.

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              Seems like it is some stronger alloy that is resistant to pistol fire. Brendon herrera seemed to do a semi independent test.

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      The cybertruck is an completely obese but not heavy enough to be bulletproof.

      Bullets go through trees like they aren’t there. What makes you think the stainless steel body panels thata are as thick as

      checks notes

      the steel used in literally every car is somehow bullet proof?

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      Can conform cyber truck is not bulletproof. It didnt stop anything that we shot at. It.

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      Nobody wants to replicate or compete against the Cybertruck directly, but it is the first production car to implement several key technologies like steer by wire a 48v low voltage system rather than traditional 12v one. Tesla has had a lot longer to develop these than the competition, but ultimately Elon’s stupid design and love affair with Trump mean Tesla won’t succeed commercially from these innovations.

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    it’d be a neat idea if cars actually regularly had to interact with projectiles! y’know what cars DO have to interact ALL THE TIME?

    water.

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      In fact, when they do interact with other projectiles, those projectiles are other cars. But I guess no one knew crumple zones could be so complicated.

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        I can attest I have never seen a cybertruck and we are pretty EV heavy. Teslas are even getting rarer since they are built so shit they can’t handle the winter and salted roads.

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    Fun fact: The windows are not bulletproof. Also the most common rifle in the US is the AR-15… and the cybertruck’s doors are decidedly NOT resistant againt .223/5.56x45mm rounds. And if they’re using green tips or even regular FMJ rounds, you can forget about any semblance of protection.

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      I was shooting thicker steel than that yesterday with cheapo .223, went through it like butter. The bullets are hilariously small, but they’re hauling ass at 3,400FPS.

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        People don’t realize just how penetrative .223 is. And the stuff you are firing is civilian grade stuff. Imagine some VIP was driving a cyber truck thinking he is safe and some guys with actual military ammunition fired at him. His car might as well be made of paper mache.

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        Yeah military 5.56 will go through cinderblocks. Maybe not in a perfect straight line but modern military rounds would chew up any car, even the lame cybertruck.

        Basically unless you’re behind the engine block or axel (the dense metal parts of the car) assault rifle rounds are gonna get through. Don’t hide behind cars.

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    I don’t know how anyone thinks buying a Tesla, and in any way supporting the guy supporting the Nazis in the EU, is acceptable.

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      This ☝️. Even buying a BMW, VW, or Porsche (former Nazi conspirators) probably isn’t as bad as buying a Tesla from a current-day Nazi

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        This is what I don’t get. BMW, VW, and Porsche are all companies that supported the Nazis. Assuming that 99% of all employees at those companies when they supported the Nazis are no longer working there, what does it matter that they supported the Nazis? BMW, VW, and Porsche aren’t a real person each. There’s no Mr. BMW going into a secret mountain lair snickering while rubbing their hands together. It’s really just a name for an economic system. The people all change like the boards on the ship of Theseus. And it wasn’t BMW’s, VW’s, or Porsche’s fault for not having just ethics. The entire country was taken over by Nazi’s. Surely the people that resisted were removed or punished. Maybe some employees pulled a Schindler and protected people as best they could. Others tried that CIA sabotage manual shit that’s hilarious. Some were all about Nazis. But, none of those people are there anymore in any effectual number. In other words, BMW is just a name as I understand it. Is there something I’m missing? Do we need to rename it to something else so that suddenly the root essence that supported the Nazi’s is removed? While we’re at it, do we need to rename Germany/Deutchland or shame them until they change their name?

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          I think it should depend on the company at the time of the purchase, but that the company is still responsible for their branding.

          Although, I also think the real answer is that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism and any outrage is being misplaced onto a company instead of the system that caused it.