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Bread is best as a butter or cheese delivery vehicle.
No matter how you slice it, only the upper crust of bread society can cut it as a standalone food.
Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?
Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.
Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.
I don’t care if it’s good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.
There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).
I used to make a lot of bread and things like pizza dough. I’ve even grown and ground my own wheat and other grains.
And then my partner developed and/or decided they have a gluten sensitivity. Yes I’ve tried making gluten-free whatever but it’s not the same. I want my gluteny-goodness.
I will harbor this resentment forever.
For thousands of years the peak of life has been eating fresh bread and drinking wine, it still is tbh. For maximum luxery add fresh cooked meat to the bread :3
And CHEESE !
We should stage a conquest of bread.
Whole grain bread is okay, depending on brand and quality (Ezekial bread is the only good kind I normally have acess to). Any kind that’s not whole grain (or good quality whole grain) contributes to diabetes risk. That is not love. That is hurt.
Switched for whole grain bread for that exact reason, I found out I’m pre-diabetic so my next step after paying attention to my diet will be taking up exercise.
Nice! You might like this channel, they specialize in lifestyle treatment of diabetes, and have a book on the subject as well.
I also eat cake, red meat, smoked meat, vegetables high in oxalates, various fried foods, and occasionally drink alcohol. Life should not be about eliminating every risky behavior, it should be about fulfillment and weighing risk against probability and payoff. We all die eventually and I want to eat tasty food before I get there.
I recently saw an infographic that showed the risk of death for getting out of bed at 90 years old is the same as the risk of hang gliding. To me, this means you should take up hang gliding when you’re 90.
More seriously, you should take risks to have a full and rewarding life. Those risks can be mitigated. I’ve ridden motorcycles, but I also wear a helmet and safety gear while doing it.
False dichotomy. I can eat all kinds of delicious foods, even having my health and eating my cake, and the best part is I don’t have to perform any mental gymnastics to ignore any guilt or shame about the suffering my diet causes. There’s something poetic about the best possible things for me, being the best possible things for all other beings out there. In reality, you just don’t know what you’re missing.
You sacrifice and sacrifice, cutting everything out of your habits or diet that may bring you pleasure, only for the sake of extending your life. Then at the end of it all, you look back in dismay, in the dismal realization that despite your years, you have never lived at all…
You’re basically saying the same thing the other person who replied to my comment said, so see here. No sacrifice, and your characterization of longevity is an unfounded myth. The pursuit of health doesn’t just expand years, it increases quality of life in the here and now. There’s a word for it, “healthspan”. Pursuing health and longevity leads to greater tasting food, because it involves cutting out all the hyperpalatable bombs of added sugar, fat, and salt that fry your taste buds so much that all you can taste is those kinds of foods. Do you even know what real food tastes like? I can have the pleasure of great food, the ecstasy of intense exercise, and the fulfillment of any other of life’s worthwhile joys.
You sound incredibly pretentious.
I’m sorry, but I’m not talking about McDonalds. I’m not talking about engineered food products. I mean a good thick slab of fresh bread made from flour, salt, a bit of sugar, and not much else. Served with a big dash of butter. That is heaven.
The healthspan stuff? Completely irrelevant to my point. What is the point of a healthspan if you deny yourself all the pleasures of life? Enjoy all things in moderation. But I firmly reject this whole, “well…have a little wheat bread if you muuust…anything else is abusive.”
“Do you even know what real food tastes like?”
Well you clearly know what your own farts smell like. Jesus Wept! Your head is so far up your ass you can see the contents of your own stomach.
So all you can do is resort to ad hominems? Grow up.
Bread is my favourite carb, and it isn’t close. I had a period in my teens of sandwiching everything. Chili? Sandwich. Curry? Sammich. Stews? You guessed it: big mess.
Woah, is it you, Sloppy Joe himself?? 😲
I’m in my mid/late thirties and I still put almost everything in bread. My 4 years old sometimes make bread sandwiches (one type of bread in another type of bread). I’m not there, yet.
Alright, a bread sandwich is interesting. Now I love me some bread, but doesn’t the distinction between loaf 1 and loaf 2 get lost in all the breadyness? If they want a hybrid loaf they probably make those. I suppose at 4 they’re not making themselves, but the bread maker… you… might.
I thought I loved bread, perhaps I merely enjoy it.
No you have to mix the breads. For example, you take a slice of some random bread, put a piece of Lebanese flat bread on it and voilà. And the Child does make the sandwiches. At least those ones.
I’m confused about the single full stop. It shows they have knowledge of basic punctuation, but refuse to use it.
They also resent anti-runon-sentence propaganda
What is there to be confused about? They can speak english correctly, but they simply refuse doing so due to a lack of respect for the language. Almost every professor at my uni is also like this: they have the skills to follow grammatical rules, but they don’t owe it to anyone to actually do it. This is normal.
Also any language where through and threw sound identical doesn’t deserve much respect.
Huh, I thought you were joking, but I just checked on google translate, and apparently the correct way to pronounce “threw” really is the same as “through”. I always pronounced “threw” a bit more in the front of my mouth so it has a different sound. Crazy stuff.
Here’s a bunch of better examples (it’s a 1 minute video).
Bread is like the shady dealer standing just inside a dark alley who, when somebody passes by on the street, goes:
“Hey you!”
“Yes, you.”
“Would you like a little something to make you feel good?”
* Opens long coat, showing a collection of cheeses, butter, peanut butter, jams, ham and other cold meats, and other delicious things that aren’t all that healthy *
“Oh I really shouldn’t, I …”
“Come on dude, this one’s partly mouldy.”
“I TAKE FOUR! I MEAN FIVE!”
Reading “anti crab” propaganda made me think extra.
Carbs aren’t evil but if you don’t want to be overweight you have to eat carbs in moderation. It’s not that hard gang.
What a load of bullshit. Tell that to the Italians, where they eat ridiculous amounts of pasta, pizza and baked goods a and have the lowest obesity rates in Europe.
Food quality + more walking + meat in moderation.
Lol how is food quality, moderation with meat portioning, and exercise not calories in vs calories out? Guaranteed Italian portions are lighter and their food has less calories per meal.
Who said anything about calories? Of course it’s about calories. You said carbs are reason people get fat.
Can you differentiate between “carbohydrates” and “calories”?
So you’re either saying that “food makes you fat”, which is a real genius moment, or that “carbohydrates make you fat” which is simply false.
I thought you were replying to my other response, which simply stated that weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out. High carb foods tend to have more calories. That’s all I’m saying here. You can eat carbs in moderation and live a healthy lifestyle and still lose weight. Like Jesus man, calm the fuck down hahaha
You’re putting an insane amount of words in my mouth here.
My dude, that’s not what you said in the top comment.
You’re perpetuating a bullshit myth about carbs making you fat, which is pure nonsense.
Now, when you’re called out, you’re adding all these asterisks.
Man I’m just so not interested in wasting anymore time with this stupidity. Believe what you want.
I like to go to the bakery down the street and buy a loaf, then just eat the whole thing while it’s still fresh. I’m a scrawny little spitfuck.
Obviously metabolisms can affect things. Also anecdotal evidence on a platform where you post anonymously is less than worthless. It holds about as much weight as me telling you that when I switch to low carb while keeping my portion sizes the same I lose weight.
You said “if you don’t want to be overweight, you have to eat carbs in moderation.” I am not doing that, and am not overweight.
If you’re going to word something as absolute, on the internet, you better be prepared for exceptions in reply.
Dude your anecdotal evidence from an anonymous account does not trump reality but go off buddy.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked? As long as you eat halfway clean and at a deficit, you lose weight. And you don’t gain weight by eating a lot of carbs, as long as you don’t have a caloric surplus.
Weight loss is literally calories in vs calories out. That’s it. Carbs generally have way more calories than foods without carbs. Low carb definitely works for weight loss, so I don’t know if I’d call that debunked.
It’s really simple. But these fad diet cultures we get sucked into have made us all crazy it feels like.
Any restrictive diet can lead to weight loss, because you’re not allowed to eat the stuff you wanna eat, so you don’t eat as much.
If there’s nothing special about carbs (and I don’t think there is…) that’s what I’d call “debunked.”
High carb foods have more calories than low carb ones by a wide margin. Which is why it works. And if it works, it is not debunked.
Fat has more than double the calorie density, I’m not sure what you mean by “high carb food have more calories”.
Well you shouldn’t go heavy on high fat foods either. Where did I say that you should?
and at a deficit, you
Well that’s the thing, carbs are just very calorie dense so eating cards makes it harder to eat at a deficit.
Isn’t Low Carb debunked?
What does this even mean? Nobody that I know of has ever asserted that low carb diets are the only way to lose weight. Low carb diets tend to reduce appetite which helps in achieving a calorie deficit, that’s all .
Actually fat makes you fat and carbs make you crab
The incessant lurch of time makes us crab and there’s nothing we can do about it
Exactly. Might as well indulge in feasting on Jesus’s body.
That sounds like something a carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger would say…
No, carapaced bottom-dwelling aquatic scavenger was my father.
You got it all wrong, you just have to work out a lot and then eat all the carbs you want
Did… Did they just make a “pee is stored in the balls” reference?
Based and yeast-pilled
Bakers knead bread to explore their souls.
And get ripped forearms.