• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    You mean that very legal and factually-suppprted facet of the American justice system that every juror should be informed about before making a decision in court?

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      Technically, it is not legal. However, there’s no way to either prove it, nor is there any recourse against it.

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        Please point me to the statute or code which states a juror is legally obliged to render an accurate and truthful verdict, and explain how you would enforce such a thing.

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          I guess you’ve never done jury duty, but when I have, they make you swear an oath more or less to that effect. I’m pretty sure it can be prosecuted, but if you want to the specific laws, you’re welcome to find that for yourself.

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            If you have also done jury duty, you will recall that the duration of the deliberation is done in a sealed room with no officials present.

            You can absolutely conspire to nullify in complete discretion because your conversations legally cannot leave the room until the case has shut.

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              I hung and nullified a jury myself. It was very uncomfortable. At two points I requested the judge to come in and explain to the rest of the jurors I didn’t owe them any explanation for my not guilty verdict. It took the trial out an additional two days and everyone was pissed at me but I was not going to sit in my privilege and give a guy a felony conviction after months of obvious police harassment.

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        It is actually legal. It’s built directly from the laws and kind of a necessary component if you want jury trials to actually work and not just be a kangaroo court. People just don’t like it.

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        It is very much legal. It just gets used by jurors to try and get out of jury duty, and then, judges will try and hold you in contempt if you attempt to use it for that purpose.

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        Technically we have jury exactly for that reason.

        Otherwise we only would need a judge.

        The whole idea behind jury is meant to prevent judge from convicting someone if peers don’t believe the crime should be punished.

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        The hivemind didn’t like that but it’s true, in most states just uttering the words anywhere near the courthouse can cause mistrials and a misdemeanor charge.