Sometimes slightly worse. Like LibreOffice.
Sometimes actually better, like VLC.
Sometimes about the same, like the latest version of MuseScore (older versions were, in fact, quite a bit worse).
But sometimes, like with older versions of GIMP (I’ll admit, I’ve not tried its latest major version release candidate) it’s significantly worse.
Libreoffice is slightly worse because all the proprietary office suites keep lowering the bar for everyone to follow them. It’s not a quality issue, it’s a never ending contest to figure out how to complicate writing a simple letter so that everyone has to buy only your software.
I actually find MS Word really clunky, laggy, buggy, and generally intuitive. LO I only find to be clunky
LibreOffice is more than slightly worse, but FOSS projects cover the gamut. The thing about them is that the best ones are usually laser focused on exactly what the user needs, rather than what makes the most money.
Calc was actually quite comparable for 90% of Excel features I have ever actually used.
Writer is petty good on its own, but the fact that .docx documents don’t quite matchup vs. When making and opening with Word makes it difficult for me to use officially.
Impress is just plain disappointing compared to PowerPoint.
Base might be okay, better than nothing I guess.
The rest of the suite I don’t know.
Dont edit in shitty formats, edit native, publish to pdf. Skip the pointless MS Office step. If someone else wants to collaborate, great they can download LibreOffice or alternatives for free. If they expect the docx format ask them to pay for your 12 month subscription or stfu.
I genuinely doesn’t know there’s paid media player out there, VLC came preinstall on all my prebuild PC purchase since forever.
There definitely exist paid players out there (or at least used to…dunno if they still exist), but there are also “free” (as in beer) non-free (as in speech) options, like the ones included out of the box in a Windows or macOS installation.
PSA: Inkscape is good now!
For LibreOffice, I’d go with, worse and better at the same time.
- I have just noticed, overtime, that it has some problems in some cases, where MS Office does better, while there are certain cases where it does better.
There are 2 major pain points though:
- Calc UI stutters when using the scrollbar with mouse click and drag.
- Adding images to files makes the whole thing way slower than acceptable.
I haven’t used it for a few months though, so something might have changed. But the second issue specifically is a long time one.
On the other hand, the formula usages are much better in Calc. Also, the documents don’t get wonky between versions as much as MS Office
If you like professional photography, you can try darktables. It’s a replacement for Lightroom and it’s great in my opinion.
Gimp is still useful for quick and simple edits. It’s a bit weird to use though.
Gimp is still useful for quick and simple edits
See, the problem with that is that that’s precisely not how I use Photoshop. I don’t use it often (certainly not often enough to actually pay for it), but when I do, I tend to go fairly deep.
I should try out Darktable though. I used to use Aperture until it was discontinued, and these days I frequently use Lightroom, though I don’t really love it.
IMO Krita is better than GIMP for the quick simple edits.
365 is far worse IMO. New web only apps (replacing all the desktop apps) are a big step backwards. LibreOffice does everything needed natively and a lot more.
It’s the return of the network computer of the 9xs. But worse.
Krita isn’t that much worse than Photoshop/CSP for digital illustration. That said, going back to CSP after a year was such a relief I didn’t know I needed. So many little stumbling blocks removed.
I wonder how many paid apps were utterly decimated after they released VLC
To quote a non-computer savvy friend from a few years ago. When he was talking to someone else, I just over heard the conversation.
Na, I use VLC player. It always works, it will play a slice of cucumber.
And if it’s so good, why haven’t they released an Open Source 2?
We got gpl3
if gplv3 so good, why there no gplv4??
checkmate
AGPL is gplv4. Yahtzee
AGPL2 when
Because it’s so good that a v2 is not needed.
If you like open source THAT much, why don’t you marry it??
Fork me, baby 🫦
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We need a community for sharing comment art like these
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All those Silicon Valley brogrammers would have “OpS2 evangelist” in their bio.
Slightly worse? I can actually sort and the video player actually works, instead of whatever the FUCK was going on with the other place, for literally ever.
OK who changed the wojak into a beautiful woman?
wojak is a beautiful woman
Yay
It was on Lemmy World’s All[0] less than 10 days ago.
Yeah, that’s where I pulled it from.
That art style is pretty off-putting tbh.
The naked woman is kinda odd too
She might be wearing a tube top. Need a wider angle to be sure.
All-Star team
You’ve never worked on software in a big company have you?
There are definitely a lot of brilliant engineers working at companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple, they just get hamstrung by management.
I can only speak for myself, but I used to love to get home from work and contribute to free software projects I found interesting. Since I got a good paying tech job at a big company, the last thing I want to do is more of the same when I get home. (having kids around the same time probably had an influence too).
That’s the point
I’ve been thinking about this often lately as well. These fucking corporations with multiple billions at their disposal, and all they can produce is shit like Windows or macOS? AND it also costs money to use? AND it has ads in it?
Meanwhile a bunch of nerds working for free on a passion project are giving away software that is faster and easier to use and often more beautiful to look at.
I guess I’ve simply reiterated what the post image said, so ignore me maybe, but fuck this is depressing and disappointing. All these corporate resources and all they can do is barely achieve what other people do for free in their spare time? What a fucking waste of human life and energy is capitalism.
Honestly, it’s such a compelling point to made for why capitalism is a shit economic system. Regardless of if someone is compelled by communist/anarchist economics, at the very least it should be obvious that capitalism produces only the most profitable products, not the best products.
For real open source projects, it’s a lot of the time not nerds working for free.
All your favorite frameworks and libraries are often developed in house at big companies (angular, react, vue, tensorflow, Kafka, pytorch, k8s, Jenkins, and many many more).
And even then, much of the development on them is done by people who are getting paid to use the frameworks at smaller companies.
There are tons of examples the other way too of course, but even the Linux kernel is mostly corporate commits, Google, Huawei, Oracle, and others.
This isn’t inherently bad, but it’s not as cut and dry as people make it out to be.
I want to add, that language development is also often done by companies. Today for example is a Mozilla thing, and while a non profit, the devs aren’t working for free.
That seems like the system working as intended. Once enough work has gone into open source projects, even the profit-driven entities see they will make more money by improving those open source projects instead of following their default plan of reinventing the wheel and keeping it proprietary and locked down.
Technically, MacOS doesn’t cost money to use and has no ads.
You need to buy an Apple-branded computer to use it (at least legally). It’s price is just included in the device you buy.
Which is why I said “technically”.
I’ve been thinking about this often lately as well. These fucking corporations with multiple billions at their disposal, and all they can produce is shit like Windows or macOS? AND it also costs money to use? AND it has ads in it?
Not only do I agree with you, I also want to point out the telemetry whackamole for those who care. (And those who don’t care aren’t going to bother with the whackamole, but their privacy is being violated just the same as those who do care.)
“Slightly worse”. I got a job and was not allowed to use a linux laptop, so I went with mac. I was almost worried that I would like the “just works” aspects everyone have been so exited about. Wow. What a piece of shit it is. Settings items takes forever to load after boot, mouse feels like it is stuck in mud (even if I remove accelleration and increase speed), it cannot wake many monitors up from sleep, it completely disables the keyboard momentarily when activating the screen (and if it fails to wake it, it becomes a flashing, keyboard grabbing nightmare). The window management? I can set up a workspace on this and that keybind, “oh, you disconnected the monitor, well we permuted the keybinds for you” wtf? When I get home and switch to linux, it is such a relief.
Lol, since the last major update I can’t type a tilde or a backtick, presumably because it doesn’t recognize my keyboard type?? And I had to install another program that prevent Apple Music from opening each time I connect/disconnect bluetooth headphones?? Or to add week numbers to the calendar widget. Even Gnome isn’t that bad.
I had that from the start… It cannot distinguish some keyboards, and I have two versions of my layout I have to switch between. All keybords work the same on linux, but mac, nah.
And updates? Holy shit! They broke ssh! It was broken like a month. Ssh connections just died as ‘corrupted’ all the time. And they don’t hotfix it asap? How can a company trust to use them as a work laptop if they break it and don’t fix it?
presumably because it doesn’t recognize my keyboard type??
The answer by Apple (and their parroting fanbois): You don’t actually need those keys. It’s confusing for users to have too many characters.
this is what they mean by “just works” is that it doesn’t do much of anything.
It means what is not already happening will never happen.
Tinkering is for hippies and hippies are communist.
I guess it matters what you mean by hippies. My dad and all the other old foggies he smoked pot with in the '60s are all #MAGA now.
I got a job and was not allowed to use a linux laptop, so I went with mac.
Same. 2015. I could have pushed them to let me use Linux, but it would have been making waves in a remote shop. The 2015 MacBook hardware was decent, so I got it. Domain binding was still in fashion. 99 problems. Finally, I got it okay-ish, set up Brew, it’s a hack. I started trying to use the terminal to do things, almost no config available, the disk mount subsystem was alien, the logs were crap. Since then, the hardware and compatibility has just gotten awful.
If we’re talking Lemmy and Lemmy clients, I’d argue it’s a helluva lot better. For one, I can rotate my fucking screen
Hell, the thing that got my to switch was when they got rid of third party apps, because of how absolutely abysmally shitty the official app is
Slightly worse in design, far better in consumer-friendliness!
The fuck is this stupid ass meme format lol
My first thought as well
SEX
Now that I have your attention…
Lemmy is Reddit with more furries and communists
I’m not a god damn communist Fred! How many times do I have to tell you, I’m an anarchist!
And then you have Blender, Krita, OBS, VLC, bitwarden & Let’s Encrypt.
But tons of corporate contribution to big open source projects so it is sometimes grey.
Not sure it’s grey, it’s great when big corporate give back, just ot when they take over and pervert the ideals of open source to their breaking point.
Voyager for Lemmy is some seriously gourmet shit.
But seriously the answer is usually that the big company is trying to apply to ALL USERS and usually only pleases a subset or none of those users.
Voyager isn’t for you? That’s fine, Lemmy has a nice API and you can build whatever you like. Lemmy is also open so if that API isn’t nice you can provide suggestions and fixes.
I’m not saying it’s perfect, but it’s a pretty good place to be.
Look at early Twitter or formerly Reddit. A nice API. Tons of fantastic clients. Open source is the best, but even just “open” is a fantastic first step.
Voyager is indeed a really good app for Lemmy. It is based on Apollo app which was the best, and IMO, the only sensible way to browse Reddit on iOS.
I am glad @[email protected] had a working version ready merely days after the new TOS came into effect.
I have been using it since it was called Wefwef (which I still feel was a better name, more playful), and I liked it so much that I use it on my Android phone as well as my iOS daily driver.
It’s not, though. It’s a big reason why I’m here, in fact. Boost for Android is awesome!
Boost went open-source?
Oh that’s a good point, I don’t know (or care) if Boost is open source. I was more referring to Lemmy.
Only until enshittification kicks in
