God this sucks to watch from the other side of the world.
It sucks from the inside, too. I feel so hopeless the middle of all this insanity.
I can’t do this again.
I hope we’ll be able to do this again. There are worse alternatives.
How are there worse alternatives than having Hitler Cheeto edition as a president?
Probably having this as a president forever.
Exactly. Let’s hope we get to have another bad US election rather than this being the last one.
That’s fair I agree
It’s going to suck here too, if that makes you feel any better.
Trust me, it also sucks to watch from inside America. The sane people did everything we could.
Except vote.
Not sure if I’d categorize these as sane…
Because so many people in the United States have elected to stab themselves - and EVERYONE else along with them - with a rusty knife, out of ignorant rage and lazy ignorance.
Don’t forget South Korea. Do you really think America will be on their side this time around with Dump and Kim being kissing friends?
South Korea gets nukes in 3, 2, 1…
Don’t they already got all the technology in place and all they need is time?
I think so, iirc South Korea, Japan and a few european nations are considered functionally nuclear capable in that they have all the material, fascilities and scientific knowledge to assemble nukes in a very short timeframe should it become desirable.
Honestly at this point, in a 1 on 1 war between south and north, I’d wager on South. Will still suck super bad tho
Quick analysis: the US flushed itself down the toilet.
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Likely fact: Republicans now control all 4 towers of the castle (president, senate, house of representatives and surpreme court).
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Conclusion: the situation allows Republicans to steamroll legislation into force.
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Further conclusion: US voters really don’t understand what they are doing.
Climate: it’s bad, but one president’s rule is short. Trump will withdraw from the Paris treaty and sabotage domestic attempts to curb emissions. Europe and China will continue their attempts because they haven’t changed, and they want energy independence. Climate is a system with great inertia. We are beaten by the mistakes of previous decades, new generations will be beaten by our mistakes. Increasingly hard.
Ukraine: the situation is very bad. The Biden administration won approval for 60 billion of support in spring, but according to Zelensky, only 10% has been delivered so far. Unless the DoD hurries the hell out of itself, Trump will close the tap on aid that Biden secured. Trump will try diplomacy, but Putin’s administration is made of a different sort of people. They are running for life while Trumpists are running for lunch. Putin will politely send him where sun doesn’t shine and continue grinding meat, now with an added flavour of North Korean. Ukraine faces a very difficult choice: fight a retreating war in conditions of decreasing aid, hoping that revolutionary conditions arise in Russia… or make peace with the attacker, giving them territory. Ukraine will need all the assistance it can get from anywhere. Knowing this, and knowing the risk of a Trump re-election, I started developing a drone system 6 months ago. It has gone through many iterations and might be capable of combat in the coming month. I didn’t sign up to live in a world like this, but hey, you take what you’re given. :(
If the war in Ukraine gives Putin territory and peace as a result, Putin and his heirs know that you can get territory and peace with war: any place in Eastern Europe could be next.
In summer, Congress locked away the keys for leaving NATO, but Republicans now control both houses and Trump has cleansed the party of dissenters. Trump can credibly threaten to withdraw from NATO or actually do it.
Taiwan needs to find more alliances, because the US might become unreliable, and China knows this. The rest of the world needs to think if they can do without electronics during a Chinese attempt to conquer Taiwan.
Democracy in the US: will be dismantled in favour of something like Hungary. We will see ministers who are oligarchs like Musk or irresponsible liars like Kennedy. Since the storm is near-perfect, I predict that democracy will give way to oligarchy. Risk of disturbances, repressions and internal conflict will grow.
Until now, only unstable people wanted to assassinate Trump. Given these conditions, I predict that stable but ruthless people who see a danger to their future will join the game. They will reason as follows: “risk has reached certainty and there is still time to prevent outcomes”. If I was working in the Secret Service, I would increase protection on Trump 10 times (unless I hated him).
One big difference between Hungary and the US are guns. It’ll either can lead to a revolution much easier than in Hungary, or a Krystalnacht that is followed by the return of KKK-style lynchings.
For Ukraine, peace is not a real option. They can choose between war and being oppressed by Putin. And now, how they want to go out in history: in a war with glory, or under Putin’s boot who tells them: “no, you’re Russians, speak Russian”. I refuse to call “ethnic cleansing” peace. At best, it’s just the illlusion of such, because tanks are not crossing state borders.
Fascists like Trump choose their henchman based on loyalty, not skills. He will just get a lot of badly trained soldiers as basically meat shields.
Not only that, but “peace“ deal with Putin will only benefit Putin, as it will give him time to regroup and improve his strategy, while the military aid to Ukraine stops. Then he’ll say: “oh shit! Ukraine is attacking us again! They broke the peace deal” and continue the invasion. 
Civilian gun ownership makes revolution more bloody, it doesn’t give it any more chance of success.
On your last point - assassination of Trump could now be argued as self defense of your children.
For the EV part of the upcoming climate catastrophe …. If he’s successful at stopping growth of EVs, the biggest impact might just be the destruction of the Detroit based automakers. If they can’t compete in the rest of the world due to no EVs, there’s only so long they can stay in business selling coal rolling trucks to yahoo Americans
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I live in Taiwan…good luck for all of us
I live in Eastern Europe, and seriously recommend your people start researching nuclear weapons. :(
France and the UK still have nuklear weapons, I would think the rest of the millitary would be more of a problem.
I would suspect both sides would not use nuklear weapons unless they get really desperate. So what is currently deturring Putin from attacking eastern europe is the thread of the reagular US millitary just kicking his ass and having no chance of gaining any land. But if it was just nato without the US he might gamble on them not using their nukes if he just takes, say northern Finnland, which he might think is feasable without US-troops.
Of all possible next targets he could choose, Finland , Norway or Sweden would be the dumbest ever. These countries are prepared, always have been. It would be fucking hard, even without NATO. The next targets would more likely be other not well affiliated countries like Moldova, Georgia. Then Baltics.
Do you live in a country that is part of the EU?
If one member of the EU is attacked, the others will have to defend the country
This may be misremembering, but I thought I once heard of some people in Taiwan (a small, but vocal, number) liked Trump because of his “China Bad” rhetoric.
It’s not quite as spicy from my side of the world (Australia), but I really do not like the idea of our closest military ally being controlled by a fascist.
Just seems like risky business, ya know?
I think Taiwan will be fine… for now. Trump is so Anti-China I doubt the US will drop its support. Eastern Europe however is basically fucked now
Trump is also easily bought.
Taiwan also has money
And Chips
Yum
He SAYS he is anti-china…there is a difference.
The most annoying thing over the next few years is going to be listening to:
“What happened to my helthcare?” "You voted for Trump who promised to take it away. " “But I didn’t think it would effect me!”
“Why are the prices of groceries so high?” “You voted for Trump who promised to deport all the illegal farm workers who picked your food for low wages.” “But I didn’t think it would effect me!”
“Why did my daughter/wife/girlfriend/mother die in a hospital parking lot?” “You voted for Trump who promised to make life saving healthcare for women illegal nation wide.” “But I didn’t think it would effect me!”
“What happened to the minimum wage?” “You voted for Trump who promised to lower it.” “But I didn’t think it would effect me!”
“What happened to the Palestinians?” “You voted for Trump/voted for a third party candidate which allowed Trump to rise to power then he gave Netanyahu the go ahead to wipe them out.” “But I didn’t think that would happen to my family!”
Suck it up. This is your bed. You shat it in. Now lie there and be quiet. We’re tired of your bullshit.
“Why did graphics cards quadruple in price?”
“You voted for Trump, who supported China steamrolling Taiwan, and now all of TSMCs foundries are bricked.”
I wonder if it’s the US or Taiwan that donates the thermite grenades on the machines? If it’s the US Trump might just order them not to donate them as a gift to Xi.
From what I’ve read, TSMC themselves take a hardline anti-China stance. If Chinese jackboots set foot in Taiwan, they’ll brick all of their foundries, or at least they say they will. Whether they actually will when push comes to shove is the bigger question
I don’t think it’s an issue of bricking them. I think they thermite grenade them. It’s the optical technology that sets the ASML machines apart. They have to destroy the machines.
That’s semantics
Uh, no it isn’t. Bricking would be to render them inoperable. The machines need to be completely destroyed to keep the physical components of the optical path out of the hands of the Chinese. Thermite grenades on the optics and C4 to make sure
I’m pretty sure thermite will render them inoperable; it tends to render most things inoperable
I’m praying we (nl) put our own in as backup before shipping them out
I’m a shareholder. I hope so, too.
[email protected] was revived at just the right moment
Unfortunately
Honestly, I think it’ll be worth drilling the fact that it’s the Republican Party, not just Trump. Otherwise, folks deep in the cult will just use the current figurehead as a scapegoat for everything wrong with the party without acknowledging that the party itself works against them.
They probably will, anyway, but it’s worth a shot.
This was a well executed decades long plan by the christofascists to turn the United States into a christofascist theocratic autocracy using the Republican party at a framework and vehicle and leveraging the fear, hatred, and ignorance of the heartland to do it. The only way to come back from this is to abandon any attempts to court the right and center and to design and execute a plan to take the country back from the fascists and oligarchs, to fix the courts, to fix the elections, to fix public educating and healthcare, to redistribute wealth, and to give the country back to the people, not just the rich, white, Christian, male people.
The frustrating thing is that the red center of the country just voted itself into slavery. Trump has said that he’s going to reduce the minimum wage. Project 2025 will destroy the education department, the ACA will be dismantled, social security will be eliminated, workers rights are going away. You will work for slave wages with no protections, no benefits, and no pension then you will fuck off and die when they’ve used you up.
Congratulations! Your fear, hated, and hunger for vengeance on those you resent was used to manipulate you into the biggest self-own in human history.
Enjoy president Vance America. Trump will die soon or will just Golf while Vance and his project 2025 people run the show
After trump impliments the worst of p2025 then his usefulness will end and the GOP will “save us from Trump’s extreme position” with the 25th amendment and install Vance to oversee the infrastructure trump put in place.
It will fool the removeded American public, and they will praise the GOP for protecting them from the unforeseeable actions of trump being the next Hitler and ignore the fact Vance isn’t removing what trump did…
Is it wrong that I’d be more ok with that happening that Trump putting in effort?
Oohh, totally forgot about Taiwan
So that will be a new Chinese provence within 4 years
Ukraine will be new Russian territory soon
Palestine will be new Israel soon
Man, the joy
Might wanna invest in cartography futures
No, I’m sorry, I just don’t think Kamala is making Gaza the number one issue, which is why I think the only reasonable choice is to either not vote, or vote Stein.
edit: I cannot believe I have to add /s
Literally every fucking election they pull this same shit, and every fucking election WE FALL FOR IT LIKE MORONS!!!
The morons on the other side fall for “Trump is obviously a good Christian!”, but we fall for this which is almost as transparent as “Hey, look over there!”
“We have the Palestinians and we have everybody else rioting all over the place. You talk about Charlottesville. This is one hundred times Charlottesville,” Trump said during a presidential debate in July, equating pro-Palestinian activism with a 2017 attack by White supremacists in Virginia.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/27/trump-israel-gaza-policy-donors/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/donald-trump-middle-east-foreign-policy
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/trumps-plan-quell-protests-deport-hamas-radicals-rcna166168
I hope you enjoyed your high horse. Because this might be the last Palestine protest you can effectively make.
That’s literally my point, the “muh protest vote!” is the kind of shit that always makes things worse. Republicans don’t protest vote, they voted for a rapist felon.
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Can’t wait for the trump dictatorship aparratus to get started thanks to takes like this. Im sure Gaza will appreciate the sentiment all the same since trump has made clear his policies are even worse.
That’s literally my point if you can’t tell sarcasm.
You needed the /s
Btw, you think I was being serious?
THOSE FUCKERS ARE QUIET NOW!!!
We’ll see a few gaza stories, maybe, but all the voices screaming are gone, they’re getting wasted on vodka and whatever else you do in St. Peterburg after a massive victory.
There’s a few smug “we told you so!” clowns still around.
I don’t see how… But then again, we’re post-sarcasm again :(
Mostly because that’s how those fuckers sound.
You will never be forgiven
Edit: with all we’ve seen sarcasm may be a little hard to detect
Sounds like “hey look over there” is exactly what you fell for
Not saying you are either a Russian or just a fucking idiot, but in my opinion someone that holds this view point, is either a Russian, or a fucking idiot. I repeat, this is not towards you, it is towards the Russians and fucking idiots that hold this view point.
I’m literally saying so many people fell for the russian trolls, and now we’re all fucked.
Yep. And Palestine is about to become a crater. They have no idea what they did.
I’m not quite this pessimistic but am still holding onto people think US has a lot more say over this situation than it does. Israel will eventually decide to stop
Yes they will.
Three days after Gaza is a crater.
I’m not entirely sure what your point is, but I see third party votes are well under the margin between the two main candidates
You’re getting downvotes because people didn’t get far enough through your comment. I almost didn’t.
Sorry to piss on your parade but… Uh… Your attitude (the one behind the sarcasm) is the reason democrats lost this. That aside, at this point it’s probably less about Gaza and more about Harris campaigning with the brainpower of a 5 YO. Like if Trump is winning this badly then yeah it was hopeless to begin with.
Yup, my attitude is exactly why.
Not the endless screaming voices of ‘BoTh SiDeS!!!’ and voting for anybody but stein is a vote for genocide, it was all me.
Mwa ha ha, my evil plan has been successful, and I’ve finally enslaved the world’s greatest superpower to a elderly rapist in a diaper!!!
Fucking stupid children, I swear.
This is exactly what I’m talking about.
I highly doubt that most people even considered Gaza issue when deciding who they vote for. It’s mostly lemmy/farleft thing.
Anyone darker than this in America --> ✋🏼
If it is of any solace, the global oligarchs will be safe and well through all that is about to unfold.
Do you guys seriously believe everything would be fine if he didn’t win?
The world was as fucked yesterday as it is today. You just didn’t see it on the news. Does it matter if the civilization ends a week earlier?
Does it matter if the civilization ends a week earlier?
Yes.
Could you be less of an accelerationist trope?
We fear it will be a decade or more earlier. We fear the difference between my children having a habitable environment and my children having to deal with ever increasing climate disasters. We fear losing human rights, consumer protection, any semblance of a safety net. We fear increasing polarity in what is already an untenable situation. We fear descending into chaos and tyranny, and taking parts of the world with us.
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Ech, tonight sucks but please don’t make lemmy suck too.
Do you guys seriously believe everything would be fine if he didn’t win?
Of course not, and nobody is saying that. But it would be better. Harm reduction is good even though we can’t actually ever fix the world.
Does it matter if the civilization ends a week earlier?
Um, yes? It’s safe to say that both you and I will die some day. I’d rather that be in 100 years versus tomorrow.
If it didnt matter, suicide rate would be much higher
People care if the civilization ends a week earlier
Palestinians were very much already in danger. Both sides in america are so tied to Israel that biden refused to stand up to bibi even while he was openly campaigning for trump
It’s the difference between being in a burning building and being the same burning building while people throwing Molotov removedtails through the windows.
Both are dangerous but one is worse.
In this case if you pick just the burning building then the group keeping you in that building are saying “we can’t let you out of there but you better support us or the guys with the molotovs will show up”
I understand that logically you’d pick option A but would you have enthusiastic support for the people keeping you trapped in the building?
Candidates have to get people motivated to vote and “we won’t do better but the other guy will do worse” is not motivating enough. We saw how that plays out yesterday
Simple reality is there’s twice as many Jewish voters than muslim voters, and Jewish voters are more likely to vote Democrat. So ironically the best thing Biden could’ve done for Palestine was to not piss off the Israel crowd and cause Trump’s election.
But maybe he’ll stand up now that the election is over. Time to cut off the weapons. Long time coming. Make Trump reinstate weapons for Israel and see how that goes for him. You Palestine people need to push 10x as hard now as you did before the election. Something tells me you won’t.
The push will be harder now because dems and libs will suddenly realize it’s an atrocity the instant trump gets in office. They’ll flip from telling pro Palestine people to shut up to yelling the same things we’ve been yelling for a year but at trump because the person in power finally won’t be on their team so they finally will allow for criticism of the president.
the asian news on pbs has some reactions on video. japan was interesting
