• ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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    22 days ago

    They are actually much different, as the state owes you an accounting of what it does and the people decide who to vote into control of it.

    Corporate monopolies are ran like fascist states.

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      22 days ago

      Till you realize that you actually only have 2-3 realistic voting options in every country and that these candidates are funded and promoted by said corporate monopolies. This is in fact a necessary prerequisite for a successful election campaign. Not to mention the revolving door.

      Different roles, same people.

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          22 days ago

          What is the point of this question? My critique of the current state of “democracy” is about how undemocratic it is and why this is not a good thing and that it should be more democratic. I’m not advocating for even less democracy, I’m advocating for more. It’s not either this oligarchy we are living in, or corporatism

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        22 days ago

        Oh, the “no party tailor made to do exactly what I want” argument.

        see, that’s still 2-3 more realistic choices than the literal corpo-fascism that forms around monopolies, but please, keep repeating the BS line literally made by anti-democratic institutions whose entire purpose is to make you a lethargic apathetic voter

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          “exactly what I want” is so funny to me, when those 2-3 parties are ideologically entirely opposite to me. In every core political topic they are working against what I stand for. So speak for yourself, we are not the same.

          In the second paragraph we have the same old stupid false dilemma I’m tired of hearing. I’m a fascist for wanting an actual democracy more than the oligarchy we have now, that protects, serves the interests and perpetuates the existence of these monopolies right?

          Also, I’m sure my critique about the revolving door, the oligarchs controlling and funding the politicians and promoting them in their media are the “lines made by anti-democratic institutions”. I’m sure they say those things and I’m sure the mega corporations are not thriving and better than ever with the system we have now lol.

          Not only didn’t you answer my critique but you didn’t even acknowledge it. Did it bother you so much that I critiqued the status quo? This is one of the most bad faith answers I’ve ever gotten, good job👍

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            21 days ago

            well damn, if you really can’t find a difference between the 2–3 parties, that generally means you don’t actually care much about what they do.

            As for being a fascist, if you help fascists, I think you’re a fascist, and the anti voting BS does in fact help the fascist. the oligarchs control politics in large part because of the same voter apathy you are spreading right now, we had governments, be it in Europe, America, Asia, or Africa that worked against corporate interests, until people became apathetic about it.

            but you claim to critique the status quo, when you don’t even understand the status quo and how we got here.

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              I didn’t say I don’t find differences between them, you are putting words in my mouth once again. I said that the differences are miniscule to me considering how ideologically opposite they are to me. I deeply care about what they do, if I didn’t care, I wouldn’t hate them so much. This argument doesn’t make any sense. If I don’t care about what they do, then why would I hate them?

              Am I spreading voter apathy? Apathetic are the people that go vote for these two oligarchs without thinking about it ever. These fanatics are apathetic. I’m actually trying to make people think about it. I hate them and I’m explaining why it is so, I’m not apathetic about them and I don’t want people to be so, I want people to hate them as well, why is it so hard to grasp? Why do you say unrelated, wrong stuff and have me waste my time answering them? This is so clearly not what I said.

              For the last part I don’t know what to say honestly. You say I don’t know how the status quo works(?) and your argument for it is some of the most vague phrases out together ever. “We had governments in Europe, America, Asia and Africa that worked against corporate interests until people became apathetic about it”. What am I supposed to say to this lmfao. No justification, nothing specified, no thought put into this, just vague, unrelated words put together.

              If people like you, on the dnc payroll call me fascist(even in the most shameless way) I’m doing something right. This was such a waste of time lol

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      Corporate entities are typically their own fascist state. The boss says how it goes. Employees typically have little input.

      During COVID I had an employee that complained about masks because they were undemocratic. I reminded them that the employees do not vote on policy.