• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    Usually it’s forced arbitration, you can’t sue

    It really favors the company. Steam is explicitly saying no arbitration which levels the playing field.

    Arbitration doesn’t save money. You still need lawyers.

    What’s bigger is this explicitly says it allows class actions. Something that most prevent and require individual arbitration, consumers are better off when they can pool resources for lawyers against a giant corporation, especially since most would require an upfront payment for a large class action.

    • Hannes@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Arbitration doesn’t save money. You still need lawyers.

      of course - but usually it’s way faster than getting a proper court-ruling - and since lawyers are paid per hour that makes a big difference

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        I’ve literally never seen any person argue that forced arbitration is a good thing for consumers…

        It’s always corporations

        • moody@lemmings.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          That’s because the arbitrators are hired by the company. Unless it’s an egregious situation, who’s going to side against the people signing their paycheck?

        • Hannes@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          How often are you reading about someone suing and then that lawsuit (which is already in court) being dropped because they got a better offer for an arbitration/settlement out of court? For me that’s a very common thing to read for bigger cases.

          But I agree that forced arbitration with not even a chance to take it to court if you don’t like the offer is horrible for the consumer

        • Hannes@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          I just saw the Uber case and realized that this in definitely way differently in the US. I was not aware that completely getting around the law was such a common practice. I thought that Disney thing was a rarity