• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      Israel is a sham democracy floated by endless US weapons, don’t worry I hate the US too, and pretty much every other state is slightly lower in my shit list because they’re not actively exterminating people for their settlers right now

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      Israel is a State, racism is towards people. The State of Israel doesn’t represent the opinion of all Jews, I’ve got no problem with Jews who don’t support the State of Israel, I’ve got a problem with Jews and anyone else who does.

      By your logic most of the world was racist towards Americans from 2016 to 2020.

      • ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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        It’s the rhetoric used by those who want to be seen as victims. They pretend that you associate the state with the totality of the people forming it. That way it’s easier to control the narrative. And if you look closely, it’s the same they are trying to do with the “Palestine=Hamas” bullshit.

        If you hate Israel, according to them, you hate the whole Jewish world. It’s easier that way to create the “with me or against me” rhetoric.

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          Yeah and clearly you assume that people do the former when they’re doing the latter, like in the OP

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              No, it’s an illustration of the fact that Israel gets away with war crimes and a comparison to something that is of historical significance to Israelites to show the hypocrisy.

              They (and you) don’t get to use the racism card to get out of being criticized or compared.

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      That’s like saying, “It’s fine to say that you just hate the government of Nazi Germany, but if that’s the only nation state you hate, it means you’re racist against Germans.” What?

      I hate every apartheid state with equal intensity, however, since South Africa ended their system of apartheid, that just leaves Israel. I suppose if Israel’s system of apartheid was ended first and South Africa’s remained, it would mean I was racist against white people or something. Funny how who I’m “racist” towards is entirely dependant on who’s doing apartheid.

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        Das Gegenteil ist der Fall. Ich verfolge diesen Konflikt seit über 25 Jahren aktiv und habe eine Menge unterschiedlicher Perspektiven gesehen und gelesen.