• Thurstylark@lemmy.today
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    My answers to “Would you explain this gap in your resume?”:

    1. Relevancy: “I only included relevant experience on the copy of my resume that you received.” Hiking experience isn’t relevant. Couch experience isn’t relevant. Time spent as the forgotten pawn in the machinations of capitalism isn’t relevant.
    2. Privacy: “I am not required to disclose medical information, and will not be discussing this matter any further.”
    3. Fuck 'em: “No.”
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      I am not required to disclose medical information, and will not be discussing this matter any further.

      Why the combative/legalese tone though? Why not just say “It was for medical reasons, I don’t want to go into it” like a normal person? The interviewer would go “Oh ok fair enough” instead of thinking “What’s wrong with this guy, did he get out bed with his left foot today?”

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      No2 will make any interviewer exclude you as they don’t want to hire a “lemon”

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        Lemon is right…but not because they have medical problems. I’m left as hell but I’d get so annoyed if an interview candidate snapped back like that. I’d think “this person is going to escalate any minor inconvenience”

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          Yeah it’s much better to begin with a more polite “It was medical in nature and I’d prefer not to discuss it.” And only pull out the “hey, legally you can’t ask about my medical issues” if they continue.

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            Thank you. You’re one of the only people in my replies who gets what I’m saying lol

            Other people are acting like the interviewer is demanding answers.

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          Lemon is right…but not because they have medical problems.

          It’s because they have boundaries.

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            No, it’s because of how they choose to respond to a tiny bit of friction.

            They’re the type of person who wouldn’t take 2 minutes to help you with something that’s not explicitly outlined in their job description.

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              They’re the type of person who wouldn’t take 2 minutes to help you with something that’s not explicitly outlined in their job description.

              Yeah.

              Boundaries.

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                    Someone who thinks helping out with something is “being taken advantage of”

                    Someone with a persecution complex.

                    Professional victim.

                    The type of person called their mom hitler growing up because she told you to clean your room.

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                    Helping out your coworkers on a one-off thing is just a thing normal people do. People like you are insufferable

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              It depends, I know people that would be glad to help on the work but will not tolerate out of work pondering. Gaps on the résumé are sort of more of the latter, imo

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                You know what I do when someone casually asks me a question I don’t want to answer? I keep it vague and give them a chance to pick up the hint. I don’t give them a stone cold “I’m not going to answer that.” like a defensive weirdo.

                Feels like a lot of people in this thread don’t realize an interview is a conversation. Or they just don’t know how to have a conversation…

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                  Seems like they think conversations involve certain spells and invocations to force it to go the way they want. Like if you have a legal right, you must aggressively invoke it so your opponent realizes you’re a legal mastermind and hands you the job to avoid lawsuits.

                  Feels kinda like that advice for interacting with cops that sounded more like “how to be legally right while escalating interactions with the police”. Or the sovereign citizen version that drops the “legally right” part entirely.

                  It ignores the reality that anyone can judge you for any reason and that it’s practically impossible to prove or even know why they reject you after an interview, so it doesn’t even matter if they did it for an illegal reason as long as they didn’t outright tell you (or each other in writing if you do try to sue, which btw if you sue someone over how a job interview goes, few will want to even interview you if they know about it, even if you’re completely in the right).

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                    Those “know your rights” videos are exactly what came to mind. Not only is it unnecessarily combative, you’re showing your whole hand.

                    Knowing your rights is important. Telling someone you know your rights when they’re not pressing you to abandon them is something else.

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                  Its a conversation that determines whether you can collect enough credits to have food and shelter. Defensiveness seems like a natural reaction, no?

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                    I mean if you put it that way… No? Why would your natural reaction be to sabotage yourself?

                    Are you this honest when they ask what your greatest weakness is?

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                  I think a more productive and empathetic approach would be to probe such a person on practical job-relevant hypotheticals of a similar nature, in order to actually get an idea of how they would handle those situations - if that’s really what you’re worried about. Why be so quick to label people negatively based solely on personal boundaries? Do you think it’s better to skirt one’s way around an issue than to address it?

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                    Why be so quick to label people negatively

                    Because time is limited and they’re not the only candidate.

                    based solely on personal boundaries?

                    Literally nothing to do with them HAVING boundaries. Why are so many replies acting like I’m not talking about their attitude? Replace the question with anything the interviewer doesn’t have the right to know.

                    “I see you’ve mostly worked in [other state], what brought you out here? Certainly not the weather, haha”

                    “I am not required to disclose my whereabouts or reason for travel outside of my work hours”

                    Sounds like a person I’d want on my team for sure.

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          I would hate to be interviewed by you, asking for respect of medical privacy is “snapping back”? No wonder it sucks so fucking much to find a new job.

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            Legalese style “I will not be discussing this matter any further” in an interview does give off future lawsuit vibes.

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              Yeah, a much more normal way to say that is “I was dealing with a medical condition. It’s no longer an issue, but it’s a bit personal, so I’d prefer if we didn’t get into more than that.”

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                I wouldn’t even say that much. Any interviewer asking about a ‘gap in my resume’ is already coming off to me as a micromanaging cunt.

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              I mean, you asking to explain my medical history is lawsuit vibes.

              “I didn’t know this gap was for medical reasons” Why the fuck are you asking about a gap in my work history in the first place? What I did 5 years ago is irrelevant to this interview today.

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            It’s so weird to draw weapons in response to that. Do you really always assume the absolute worst intent when someone asks open-ended questions? If so, it’s hard to feel bad for you. You are one of the worst kinds of coworkers to have.

            “Hey tocopherol, do anything fun this weekend?”

            “How I spend my weekends is none of your business and I’m offended that you even though asking was appropriate!”

            “Ok dude have fun sitting in your car at lunch”

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              What are you talking about? You’re the one assuming the worst and being weird by not respecting a simple request in an interview! You just told me you assume they are going to escalate minor inconveniences because they requested basic respect.

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                Throwing a boilerplate legal defense in response to a question that’s most likely being asked casually is a total tone shift. No one’s going to think, “wow, this person really knows their rights!”

                It almost makes you sound guilty of something. Preemptively defensive when you haven’t been pressed in the slightest

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                  I didn’t assume it had to be stated like a legal disclaimer, whatever kind of response a person makes it’s good to match the interviewers tone. I agree with you that you don’t want to come off confrontational, I didn’t read it that way.

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                    But you’re replying in a comment chain that’s talking about phrasing it the way that was quoted.

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                    What kind of jobs have you applied for where the interview was an interrogation requiring you to be defensive? Every interview I have EVER had has been friendly, from field construction to corporate offices.

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              A professional interview in which personal questions are being asked inappropriately is not even close to friendly banter between co-workers.

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                It’s the same type of person ready to pick a fight over any perceived transgression. They pick stupid fights with their managers and make it a worse place to work for everyone.

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            Lots of people don’t struggle to find jobs. Maybe you could take 5min to reflect on why some people would call this “snapping back”, rather than post a snarky comment.

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      Another good one is to mention there being health issues in the family that necessitated you take time to help them with.

      Only a very nosy employer will question that further. If they give you grief for helping your loved ones in such a situation, they probably aren’t worth working for