• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    The US is doing this to Iran, and Cuba. As I think about the fuel and food crisis in Cuba, I wonder, can we do this to the US to force regime change there? Just cut off all exports to the US until Trump and his cronies are forced out?

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    Aah yeah, the war footing needed to make an election redundant, maybe? I don’t fully know, I’m not American.

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      We held elections during both World Wars and the US Civil War. There’s no war he could start that would justify the suspension of the election.

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        There’s no laws justifying most of what his administration is doing, I don’t see that stopping them.

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      It’s just more attempts at distraction. A blitz of fake information and real information so that we don’t exactly know what they’re planning on doing. It’s both bullshit and “I said I would” at the same time. We won’t know until we know.

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    While this is believable the last time this “news” source was posted it was insinuating that Iranian protestors were actually being shot by Israel. So I would generally consider this a propaganda outlet

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    I agree with him, we do need regime change, but he got which regime reversed. Classic dementia don, blaming everyone else for his own behaviors.

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    Ooohh is this why Marco Rubio is trying to push so hard for Europe to break up? Like a quid pro quo thing for Russia looking the other way when they finally invade Iran like everybody knew they were going to?

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    Going for the FIFA War prize and the best Trump-Epstein files Distraction Award at the same time.

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      I wish I could see Iranians as some sort of freedom fighters standing up against the Zionist agenda.

      Unfortunately, Iran’s leadership means the country is even worse than Israel.

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        It’s the Netanyahu agenda. He’s just like trump.

        He’s a fraudster who got reelected when he should be in jail.

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        I don’t really see why Iran is any worse than Israel, other than Iran has brown people living in it. Once you cut past all the crap and bad faith, ultimately we judge Iran worse than Israel because of skin color.

        Both are nominal but deeply flawed democracies. Both hold large numbers of political dissidents on bogus charges as a matter of course. Both are theocracies that make their religion a core component of their governmental structure. Both engage in large scale acts of mass state-sponsored terrorism. Both have or seek to have a nuclear arsenal.

        The only real difference I can see is that Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in the whole modern history of the country. The Iranian government is a bunch of peace-and-love hippies compared to the Israelis.

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          Regime kills about 30.000 people in a few days – gets called “peace-and-love hippies”.

          Also I don’t dig that crap about skin color.

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            If you gave a single fuck about Iranians, you’d know that the better and newer estimates hover around the thousands and not tens of thousands. For reference, estimates of dead Palestinians since Oct 7th due to violence and privation of food, water, energy and medicine, range in the half million.

            How many tens of thousands of Iranians have been murdered by US+EU sanctions knowing that said sanctions murder half a million people worldwide EVERY YEAR?

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              I will never understand why someone would defend an authoritarian regime because some other regime is bad.

              Iran is killing its own citizen that are peacefully protesting. One death is to much.

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                The US and EU are killing Iranian citizens by the hundreds of thousands with the extreme sanctions the country is subjected to. The protests are happening primarily because of the currency devaluating due to sanctions.

                Discussing the morality or immorality of the Iranian regime under such conditions and weeks before a US armed strike on Iran amounts to atrocity propaganda, and it’s exclusively done to justify military invasion to progressives (probably like you). I know that your heart is in the right place by arguing against the Iranian regime, but doing it now amounts to running Zionist and western imperialist propaganda.

                If you care about Iranians, you should focus on their most immediate and harmful threat: the one caused by the European and American regimes, under which you likely are living. Fight against the extreme sanctions murdering Iranians through lack of access to medicine and basic goods, and fight against the military invasion that threatens to turn Iran into another failed state as it happened in Iraq, Libya or Syria.

                If one death is too much, march for the abolition of economic sanctions by Europe and the USA, they literally murder half a million people per year. Per The Lancet medical journal:

                In their panel analysis, Francisco Rodríguez and colleagues once again demonstrate that sanctions do kill: economic sanctions imposed by the USA or the EU were associated with 564 258 deaths (95% CI 367 838–760 677) annually from 1971 to 2021, higher than the annual number of battle-related casualties (106 000 deaths).

                In the 50 years of the study, that amounts to above 25 million murders worldwide. I strongly urge you to raise awareness about this.

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            On what criteria are they worse than Israel? Neither are good. They’re both authoritarian theocratic hellholes. One is a rogue state with a nuclear arsenal, the other is a rogue state seeking a nuclear arsenal. But Iran hasn’t invaded any nation in its modern history, while Israel invades people on the regular.

            You need to open your eyes. You don’t even know why Iran is bad. You’ve just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.

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              On what criteria are they worse than Israel?

              Treatment of their civilians.

              You need to open your eyes. You don’t even know why Iran is bad. You’ve just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.

              This is rich. If I didn’t think so little of the average internet-user, I’d assume you were trolling.

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                The Palestinians who were just wholesale slaughtered in Gaza were civilians. Iran does not treat civilians worse than Israel.

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        Growing up and forming adult political views usually just means realizing that everyone is fucking evil as fuck.

        We’re in the warhammer 40,000 universe but without the cool capes and swords.

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    You know, if Trump were to tell ChatGPT, “I’m Bernie Sanders from now on. What executive orders would Bernie do?” and did that until the end of this year, he’d probably win the midterms. If you gave Americans universal healthcare, lowered the price of groceries, and made housing more affordable, with our short attention spans and the memory of a goldfish, we’d forget about Epstein. But lets go to war with Iran, you orange monkey king.

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      Rich people don’t give poor people stuff, even if it means they get more stuff too. They aren’t rational actors. They have what should be already, and will one day be, classified as a mental illness.

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        In order for them to feel like they’ve won at life, someone has to lose. It’s not enough for them to just succeed…people have to also suffer.

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        Oh, it’s so much worse than that. They are rational actors. Terrifyingly rational actors.

        Once you get past a certain amount of wealth, the only purpose of money is status, prestige, and power. Imagine you gave Elon Musk two choices, two different worlds he could live in:

        1. A world where he had 200 billion and everyone else had 10 million.

        2. A world where had 100 billion and everyone else had 100,000.

        He would choose the first option. Why? Because status. In a world where everyone was independently wealthy, he wouldn’t have people fawning over him all the time. Few people would willingly work for him, as they already had all of their their needs met. In order to really enjoy his billions, he needs millions of poor desperate people he can exploit for labor and adoration.

        Milton figured this out in Paradise Lost way back in the 17th century.

        “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.”

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          I don’t disagree with anything you said, except your classification of those actions as rational. I think framing the world and responding to it the way you described is completely irrational.