• angband@lemmy.world
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    Just remember that we could all have our social security if the top 1% paid a fractionof the taxes they used to.

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      Remember if they hadn’t understated the inflation rate several times since the 70s social security checks would be enough to retire comfortably on, as jobs used to be enough to live comfortably on. Well over double by the old unimproved formula, that averaged 5-8 percent just by 2008, while the new formula returned 2-3%.

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      if the top 1% paid a fractionof the taxes they used to.

      Could you give an example of a year in which the top 1% paid enough taxes to satisfy this condition?

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        To support around a 1% shortfall in fica, fica is about .5% of all income (feel free to fact check, I guessed a bit), 1950 fits the bill for their actual paid percentage of 41% vs their statutory 89%.

        Edit: it’d be interesting to know how much of a fica shortfall 4% taxes on the 1% would cover. Somewhere in the range of 50-150% is my guess. Seems more than the projected shortfalls. Now, if they got taxed at 91% for real, noone else would have to pay [much] income tax, and they could raise fica on the rest of us without objection.

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      Probably something like they’re Hard Workers™©® who have to not pay taxes that feed the “lazy parasite poors”

      It also means: I’m letting you know that I’m an awful piece of shit.

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      It’s hard for the top 1% to feel good about themselves on account of their clear status as society’s leaches (except they’re not vital parts of the ecosystem like real leeches are).

      In order to get around these Hard Feelings they have to step into a fantasy narrative where they aren’t necessarily bad, certainly not harmful, maybe it’s the rest of the world that’s bad come to think of it, maybe they really did earn this, finders keepers right? Who says there is any objective reality to right and wrong? It’s all optics right? Why should the golden rule apply to everyone?!

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      He’s whining about having to pay a tiny fraction of a fraction of his wealth to support “the poors”.

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      A lot of the republicans I know honestly believe there’s a huge swath of people on wellfare who are totally healthy and could work if they wanted to, but instead they take government handouts and make a whole bunch of money doing nothing by convincing people they’re needy. I always ask them to point to even one of these supposed people, but they always change the subject.

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      So they support policies that will raise the economic conditions of the poor, so they are not creating issues, right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

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      Ayn Rand wrote those books on a meth binge. She went broke later in life and would’ve been destitute if not for her social security and medicare.

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    Today I learned that the USA used to have a 91% cap on income tax and 71% on property tax. That was in the 50’s, under Eisenhower.

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    I guess he thinks The Don, who kicked him out of the club, is the bad 1%?
    Well, Muskrat being the world’s richest 12yo is nothing new.

    BTW:

    You say you’re self sufficient (but you don’t dig your own coal)

    I think that what you’re frightened of more than anything
    Is knowing you need workers more than they need you

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    First, you helped make the “thugs”.

    Second, you’re never going to be filthy rich. You’re among the “thugs”, as far as billionaires are concerned, and they don’t give one flying fuck about any of us, beyond the concern that we might someday make them pay the ultimate tax.