>About 2,000 North Korean workers dispatched to China’s Jilin Province started a riot in mid-January triggered by anger over unpaid wages, a North Korean source told The Yomiuri Shimbun.
  • NounsAndWords@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    The riot occurred at a clothing manufacturing and seafood processing factory

    That…is an interesting combination

      • workerONE@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        What do you mean? Communist podcasts I listened to consider them Communist, Internet search says the BBC says they are Communist.

        Edit: you all like to downvote instead of having a conversation. Everybody hasn’t studied every subject, try sharing a little of what you know instead of discouraging discussion

    • xenoclast@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      North Koreans in China showing the world how it’s done. Who had THAT on their bingo card ?

      Americans forget their middle class existed for the short time it did exactly because of actions like this.

      You don’t fight the enemy sitting on your toilet reading Lemmy posts. (It’s still fun though)

    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Until China has to kill all of them because North Korea won’t take them back.

      Welcome to the Rednecks, North Koreans.

        • orrk@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          What exactly are you confused about?

          That the Chinese and North Koreans would rather kill 2000 people than pay them? Or The history and origin of the original Redneck?

          • NateNate60@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            I don’t think they’ll be killed. Neither North Korea nor China are that stupid. I do think that they’ll be forced to work until they drop and paid nothing or paid a pittance, even by Chinese standards, with the bulk of the value of their labour being split between the company that they work for and the Chinese and North Korean states.

            • orrk@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 years ago

              dude, they decided to have a little uprising and decapitated their boss (who in systems like china gets the job because of government connections), they have done a lot worse for a lot less

    • BossDj@lemm.eeEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I read this somewhere else on Lemmy recently (sorry for comment steal):

      American companies that are trying to dismantle unions need to understand that unions were a compromise to protect the companies. Because this is the alternative.

      • chknbwl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        This issue extends to politicians as well. If you replace “Ancien Régime” with “Oligarchy-flavored Republic” it’s almost like we’re living the beginning script of the French Revolution here in America. That should induce quite the pandemic of sweaty palms in D.C. If that Oaf gets reelected, we’re gonna have a Louis XVI on our hands… and we all know how that went down…

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
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      2 years ago

      You’re a literal slave? You are not paid for the work you do? You work sleep work and nothing else? You are physically and mentally mistreated at work? Does your work make you suicidal? Are you unable to switch to a different job? Do you live under a dictatorial regime? Will you be shot and killed if you try to escape?

      Yeah, I doubt you can honestly say yes to even a single one of those questions. Some of today’s work environments have issues, with a lot of them caused by companies, but a lot of them also caused by the likes of you who do want the perks and the money, but who just flat out refuse to do anything at all beyond complaining and talking about murdering those that did work hard.

      I’ve been a low level employee, I’ve been dirt poor, I worked myself up over the years. I’ve had loads of shitty bosses, I’ve been (technically still am) a company owner, now I’m a C level director. I work hard, work responsibly, and try to do the best for all employees in my teams. Should I be murdered too?

      With people like you it’s not the company that is a problem, you are the problem. Fix your own life before you start threatening those that you don’t like

      • Sippy Cup@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I have been in a position in the past to answer yes to more than one of those questions, many of the people I used to work with still can.

        • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
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          2 years ago

          So you’re living in a dictatorship, I presume? Because you don’t find any of that crap in any western (ie, capitalist, ooohhh!) country.

          • Sippy Cup@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 years ago

            Years ago, I took a job at a call center. These jobs paid, on average at the time, about 10 dollars an hour. Which was more than minimum wage, but not by much.

            Jobs other than call center work for under educated, under experienced people in my city were really hard to find. The good employers were almost never hiring, hired from within, and outsourced the entry level stuff. The vast majority of available jobs to myself and ultimately the other 300 people that ended up going through that particular call center were customer service roles.

            That industry is notoriously difficult to break out of. You’d say ‘just go find a different job.’ and yeah that’s good in theory. But everyone working those jobs is always looking for another job. No one takes a call center job and isn’t thinking about getting a better job. If those jobs were readily available, call center staff simply wouldn’t exist. These are jobs of last resort. A step up from flipping burgers.

            The pay is barely enough to afford rent and groceries. That was years ago, it’s probably much worse now. I had roommates. Without them I wouldn’t have been able to afford much other than going to work and back and feeding myself, nevermind driving all over town trying to find another job.

            Thing is at these jobs you’re infinitely replaceable. As desperate as you were when you took it, there are ten other people behind you, just as if not more desperate for work. They will literally hire people off the street and throw them in training within a day.

            So not only can you not afford to lose this job, you can’t afford to speak up at this job. You can’t unionize, because mentioning it will get you fired on the spot, you can’t speak up about abusive situations, because HR will simply fire you. You can’t even report illegal practices.

            So on to this particular call center job. This was basically just filling mail order prescriptions. Theoretically people would call in, tell someone what they’d needed, we’d click a few buttons and in a week they’d have a 90 day supply.

            That’s not what happened. 95% of the calls we received were problems. Most of the day was spent either being screamed at, or pleaded with, with none of the tools we needed to actually address these problems. To add to this, we were constantly watched by management. Quality, supervisors, auditors, trainers, you name it. If they weren’t taking calls they were listening to calls. My record was 3 simultaneous people listening in to a single phone call while it was happening but I heard of more. Any deviation from our very strict rules meant immediate and swift correction from everyone that heard about it, every time they heard about it. That was the only feedback.

            Because we were not trained for the type of work we were doing, this negative feedback was constant.

            Add to that, they gave us a really bizarre schedule. No one started at the same time every day. No one had two days off in a row. You might start at 11 am one day and 630 am next. You can imagine, bathroom breaks were also tightly monitored and yes, more than one woman was fired because they were pregnant and peed too frequently.

            All of this is to just provide some context you apparently sorely need.

            I found more than one suicide note at that job. Generally hidden under keyboards. I know at least one woman did commit suicide while employed there, two others that committed suicide in the years following, still working similar jobs.

            It’s important to know how trapped these jobs make you feel. Not only are you rarely ever actually able to help anyone, the company you’re working for is actively making shitty business decisions and counting on you to smooth it over for them. Your managers are under pressure to keep your call times low and your answered calls high, and that shit rolls down hill. You can’t just quit, you can’t easily find a different job, you can’t afford to do anything other than work and sleep.

            So no, it’s not a dictatorship. But that’s not the fucking problem.

      • Gabu@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Nobody gets paid for the work they do under capitalism. The proletariat gets his value stolen, the Cs and owners get paid for work they didn’t do.

        • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
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          2 years ago

          So you’ve never received a salary, then? You always worked for free? Because if so, I think there in lies the problem. Go look for a job that is paid, and you’ll no longer be a slave. Problem solved. Next!