• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    36·
    6 months ago

    For those choosing not to vote for Biden, voting for a genocidist in a US federal election doesn’t put blood on your hands.

    This isn’t fabricated consent (I mean it is in that lumpins are told to believe they chose the government when they didn’t).

    Here’s the thing: The office seat will be filled whether or not you vote. And you get one non-transferable vote.

    This means you get to vote against the worse popular guy by voting for his most likely contender.

    It’s the trolley problem, only millions are voting on the position of the lever. What we cannot do is move the lever out of position.

    It’s still up to you. Taking action is harder than not taking action, but we are staring down Project 2025, the neutering of elections in the US and one-party autocracy (the Republican party), which will also speed up the dismantling of civil rights in the US. If you don’t want that to happen, please consider voting against Trump and any other Republicans down ballot.

    Yes, it sucks the US is reduced to this sorry state.

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      19·
      6 months ago

      I’m just disappointed with people pretending to be against genocide while bothsidesing an overtly racist fragile demagogue who did a putsch. It’s very clear which direction that party is headed.

      • EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        13·
        6 months ago

        The ones that get me are the ones that talk about voting 3rd party. A lot of them seem to understand that the 3rd party is not going to win and that their best case scenario is… I guess “Next time they’ll listen to us and we’ll get a real leftist?” So… Your solution to the genocide is wait 4 years to get someone who will directly end it? Bestie, I don’t think Gaza will be around in 4 years. Even if you discount Trump’s stated desire to be a dictator and Project 2025.

        Or, what happens by the way if Biden wins in spite of them voting 3rd party? Surely it doesn’t mean that they’ve directly proven to the Democrats that they literally don’t need that voting bloc?

        • barsquid@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          You got around 1% of the vote in 2016 up against two of the most hated people on the planet. Unfortunately a third party won’t be anywhere near the executive branch unless the voting system is changed.

      • Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        1·
        6 months ago

        If you’re choice is continually between a corrupt carrier politician & a literal facist you don’t really have a functional democracy. I would suggest you go learn how to use a tourniquet/pressure bandage & a rifle.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          We haven’t had a functioning democracy since the 19th century.

          There’s argument to be made we didn’t have a functioning democracy when the Constitution was ratified in 1789, since segments of it were clearly written in bad faith (like the electoral college, the 3/5s of all non-free persons clause, and arguably, the failure to offer suffrage to all persons including women), but Boss Tweed in 1852 already understood how to game the elections so that only approved candidates might make it to primaries (of New York State elections and Federal elections).

          In the aughts (the 2000s), Oxford University did a study regarding elections, public interests and elite interests, and determined the US behaved more like an oligarchy than a democratic republic, so yeah, we’re a plutocracy with some democratic features. However those democratic features, while meager, keep the US from turning into a single-party autocracy like the German Reich or the late-stage USSR.

          And we’re moving towards that autocracy, propped up by fascist ideology (with enemy within rhetoric, and purge actions to follow) with every year. The next time the Republican takes control of all three federal branches of government, the game is very likely up.

          The US is also on the brink of civil war, and it may be sparked by Trump losing, depending on how large and coordinated the coup d’etat effort is at the time, or if Trump wins, by an attack against those resisting draconian policies.

    • zea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      14·
      6 months ago

      Also worth noting, this is not mutually exclusive with other efforts! Keep pressuring the Democratic party, keep protesting, keep boycotting Israel-invested companies!

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      6 months ago

      Biden also isnt the one doing a genocide. He’s the one trying to navigate a complex geopolitical clusterfuck, while dealing a genocidal maniac who very clearly wants Donald Trump to win so he can turn the genocide up to 11.

      The intentional willingness to suck all nuance out of this conversation and reduce it to a single binary purity test is complete madness. It’s hard to believe anyone pushing this rhetoric is operating in good faith.

      • NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 months ago

        Sure maybe not committing genocide with his hands, but hitler also didn’t kill all the jews with his hands. Sending weapons and funding it is just as bad.

    • Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      3·
      6 months ago

      I love how people don’t understand what the trolley problem was created to teach.

      Also, my vote 100% doesn’t matter because of where I live.

      • Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 months ago

        Neither does mine, but I’m still doing it. Worst cae, the popular vote being very far from the electoral college results highlights some of the absurdity in the system, which is a vital part of accumulating support for changing the system. Best case, I don’t understand the political landscape of my state as well as I think I do, and I contribute to it turning blue, even for a single election.

    • CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      This post just makes me more convinced that we’re going to see another Trump term… I’m not in the US, but from over here I can’t see how it doesn’t go that way.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        I’ve lost faith in the US voters after 2016. We held our nose knowing Clinton was a neoconservative recognizing that Trump would be much much worse (and was pretty terrible!). Trump lost the majority but won the EC, and the EC failed to do what it was supposed to do (conspire to elect someone other than the obvious tyrant) so, well, we got Trump in his pajamas obeying Leonard Leo and Steve Miller while Mattis kept him from nuking North Korea.

        It reminded me of George W. Bush, who also lost the popular vote to Gore, but won the EC with a little help from friends in SCOTUS (and Leonard Leo), which was far worse than we imagined it would be after Bush’s compassionate conservative thing. I believed Republicans couldn’t actually get a president elected again, because there was no way we were going to forget the $3 trillion price-tag of Iraq, the torture, the open-ended war on terror, Halliburton’s war profiteering and so on. It was such a shit show I expected it to be seared into the minds of Americans. Heck, Bush crawled away as the subprime mortgage crisis hit, so we were all feeling bummed.

        The world gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being Bush.

        Nope, it turns out eight years later (with, granted, the War on Terror and mass surveillance getting worse) we forgot the ones who got us into it in the first place. And as much as Trump looked like a rabid monster, having freshly stolen the GOP from all the other cookie-cutter prospects, ready to bring fascism on like The Producers, Clinton was so hated that they just couldn’t see Trump for what he was. (To be fair, millions of Protestant Evangelist Christians were being told from the pulpit Jesus wanted them to vote for Trump – something they’re not supposed to do while remaining a tax-free church. White Evangelists voted for him at a rate around 80%)

        So now we’re here, and I’m reminded of LBJ’s lowest white man comment (attributed), If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you. Apparently some Americans really do go all in for that kind of ideology, even as the nation world burns down around them.

        There’s also the imminent possibility of civil war. Trump will try to organize a coup d’etat if he loses the election, and it is a matter if it can be adequately detected and repelled (or squelched before it gets started).

      • vonbaronhans@midwest.social
        2·
        6 months ago

        The good news is, this sort of thing doesn’t reach the vast majority of Americans, since most of us aren’t hyper online, and definitely not on Twitter.

        The bad news is, this rhetoric seems popular (from what I hear) on Tiktok, where the youths are. And if the youths don’t vote for Biden as much as we need, then yeah we’re boned.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
    32·
    6 months ago

    Like, who would even fall for this stuff? It is so blatantly obvious.

    Are there really people who would believe anything just because it has a picture of a pretty lady?

  • galoisghost@aussie.zone
    25·
    6 months ago

    Hey that’s my girlfriend! We met online and plan to meet IRL later this year, once her grandmother recovers from her surgery. (It was expensive too I had to send her $10K to help out with the costs) Love you Kristy!

      • galoisghost@aussie.zone
        5·
        6 months ago

        Ha! No. She told me she chose that name as a tribute to her grandma. Who I’ve just found out will need to go into 24 hour care, luckily I can drop my health insurance to help with the costs. Then I’m gonna buy Kristy and I plane tickets to meet up in Hawaii. I might have to sell my car but it’s going to be so good.

        • TriPolarBearz@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          Wow, sorry to hear about her grandma! Kristy is so lucky to have you!

          sell my car

          Listen, you only live once. Ladies like Kristy are totally worth the inconvenience of selling your car and the difficulties that will definitely result from this impulsive action. I hope you enjoy the trip to sunny Hawaii together!

    • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 months ago

      WHAT!? That’s my Girl, Amanda! And you must be the weird creep following her! That’s why she needed that 5K Home Security System!

  • cmrn@lemmy.world
    25·
    6 months ago

    I love how the words they chose to bold were VOTING and BIDEN for their message.

  • burgermeister@lemm.eeEnglish
    13·
    6 months ago

    I too am from US STATE! What is your US secure society number so that we can get to know each other better?

  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
    12·
    6 months ago

    I’m also not voting Biden. In fact i refuse to vote neither of them, because i’m not living in US and not a US citizen.

    Hashtag sorrynotsorry

  • niktemadur@lemmy.world
    12·
    6 months ago

    I am real American, live in authentic American warm-water port and how about those New York Yankees Of Baseball Team!
    Now that we have established trust with entertainment reference, I tell you that voting for Biden is no good.

  • Lad@reddthat.com
    10·
    6 months ago

    I won’t be voting for Biden because I don’t live in one of the US state. I live in one of the Europe country.

  • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    6 months ago

    “Wow, the woman they show in this image fits the traditional Western standard of beauty! I will do as the message says!”

    …I guess that’s how advertising in general works.

  • Hossenfeffer@feddit.ukEnglish
    7·
    6 months ago

    I, too, am a human American from one of the 49 states which are united and in America. I am from the good state. All other states are weak and feeble compared to the state from which I come. This makes me a superior human. Obey my justified commands.