• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    Donald Trump in 2016 : “maybe the second amendment people should do something about it”

    Donald Trump today “No, wait. Not like that”

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      On the liberal side, you have “Donald Trump is an existential threat who will end American democracy if he gets elected”.

      And on the conservative side, you’ve got a “Godking Emperor Trump will remake America in his image” wing and a “Jewish Puppet master Jared Kushner is going to hand America over to the Chinese Muslim Illegal Cartel Cabals to steal all the adrenochrome in the white babies” wing.

      What is the rational response if you believe even a fraction of this? I’m amazed we haven’t seen more shootings to date.

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        Is Trump not an existential threat to democracy? We saw all the laws passed in Republican states in 2020 to further restrict voting after he lost, which was merely a continuation of Republican behavior.

        Both sides are not the same, one has done and plans to do more harm than the other.

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          Is Trump not an existential threat to democracy?

          Not so existential that anyone would actually advocate shooting him. But that’s what makes the rhetoric so dizzying. You’d think “ending democracy” would be on par with anything Al Awlaki or Qasem Soleimani was up to. And look how we treated them.

          Both sides are not the same

          No. If this had been a shot at Biden, you’d have sitting Reps openly cheering.

          But the contradiction is driving people nuts regardless.

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            that anyone would actually advocate shooting him

            Is that popular advocacy? I mostly see people saying they are unsympathetic because of Trump’s violent rhetoric; a “reap what you sow” mentality.

            But the contradiction is driving people nuts regardless.

            What contradiction?

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              The one in their head cuz they’re a Republican and can’t fathom being the bad guy ever.

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          Democrats are still complicit as the ratchet mechanism to keep us from moving even an inch to the left as both parties march further right in lockstep service to corporate interests.

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              Ask Palestinians how they feel. Dems have 3 bills being pushed right now to kneecap leftist organizations.

              They’re disenfranchising plenty, it just hasn’t affected you yet.

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    Latest is that the shooter was a registered republican, so shit is going all different shades of weird vs what everyone was assuming about what the motive was probably gonna be.

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      Dude was 20.

      This was going to be his first time voting.

      What everyone should be talking about is…

      How disenfranchised the youth is with their future prospects, so much so that they are willing to go this far.

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        That and what you register for may not have anything to do with which side of the political spectrum you are on. Only which primary they let you vote in.

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          How much do we bet he knew that? I am not trying to speak I’ll of him. But I know at 20 there was not much of an education on how our modern system works. I learned from experience.

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          The fact that this was his first election makes it more likely he actually agreed with the GOP, because this year’s primaries were kinda decided before they started.

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        His voter registration info actually shows that he voted in the 2022 mid-terms. This would have been his first time voting for a president though.

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      I had a feeling something like this would happen. The right jumped on the “it was a radical leftist that did it!” almost instantly. Democrats made the same mistake with the Vegas shooter, assuming it was done by a conservative nutjob, but actually just an apolitical psychopath.

      I’ve learned to never assume political affiliation when I hear about these things happening because someone on the right is just as likely to be the perp as someone on the left for the same reason.

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        Immediately saw that take on Facebook by some guy. Quote was “first they try to arrest him, then they try to JFK his ass, imagine voting for Biden clown emoji spam

        People are far too quick to make assumptions, and are even faster to rage. Can’t help but feel like we’re doomed due to a hopeless future / social media.

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        As things go, it is kind of lucky that he was registered as a Republican. Imagine how much worse it would be had he not been registered as such 😬

        I’m not looking forward to how much more yikes this timeline can get.

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          Yeah cuz all those registered Dems have a history of going on shooting rampages…oh wait…

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        The not only jumped on it, but “identified” the shooter as “Mark Violets, a known Antifa extremist!!!111”.

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    Im already tired of hearing it framed as a politician getting shot. This politician raped a 12 year old.

    A pedophile rapist got shot at.

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    Really? Now, republicans are crying about toning down the political discourse? Anyone forget about Gabby Giffords? Did anything change since back then? No. It just got worse and it’s probably going to get even worse in the future.

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      Anyone forget about Gabby Giffords?

      Yes. Straight down the memory hole, assuming you don’t believe it was a fake fifth columnist inside job to trick Arizona into Going Woke.

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      Why do you assume this is a Republican posting the meme? Why are you so quick to assume and attack one side? Remind me again, what have Dems been saying constantly about sending Seal Team 6 to kill Trump after the Supreme Court decision on immunity?

      Ffs, you are so blatantly stuck in your echochamber.

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        People on the left talk about “sending in Seal Team 6” as a way of pointing out the hypocrisy and short-sightedness of the right’s power grab. Not because anyone actually thinks the president should assassinate people.

        Meanwhile Trump has literally said he wants to execute his political opponents and the right-wing supreme court gave their blessing.

        It’s not a bothsides, get off the fence.

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        I wasn’t referring to the meme, but rather the rhetoric of the republican party since the Obama era.

        Also, which democratic politician was it that talked about sending in seal team 6? As in, an actual representative, not just some random person on social media? Genuinely curious, since I only found that a judge was asking the question if the recent supreme court decision would allow for something like this.

        Other than that I, also found this:

        https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/amp/?nxs-test=amp

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        Why do you assume this is a Republican posting the meme?

        That’s not how I took their comment. It was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Right. You know how the Right is always somehow justified in their actions of physically attacking political opponents.

        Nancy Pelosi’s husband is another example. Did you hear any support for their families from the right wing after either of those attacks? The right wing doesn’t care about people, they want to kill people they don’t like. Ex: Jan 6

        Contrast with the left, when someone doesn’t abide by the law. They call for justice, they don’t believe crimes are okay just because it’s their party. Do you know why the left says the seal team 6 joke? It’s pointing out the rights hypocrisy again. Because trump would have no problem killing Biden or anyone else he doesn’t like. Difference is the right wing likes violence, and would condone trumps actions. Whereas if Biden ever did that he would immediately be out of the Democrat ticket. And the left would be calling for him to be tried criminally.

        But hey keep drinking the billionaires propaganda. And let them manipulate you into giving them, this country on a silver platter.

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        You’re too far gone. I suspect you lack any substantial critical thinking skills and have consumed too much fox news. At this point, your brain has rotted to the core and you’re just another parrot.

        If you can ignore all the crimes and rapes Trump has committed and been found guilty, and still support him, you’re just a bad person.

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    Yeah, I honestly don’t give two shits that someone shot at him since he and his party has been advocating and encouraging political and fun violence for literal decades.

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      Precisely. If it’d have been Biden there would be fluff pieces about red blooded Americans exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

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    Trump is the end of democracy and he’s going to genocide everyone that doesn’t look like me. None of our political rhetoric is healthy right now. I shouldn’t be amazed at our lack of self awareness regarding politics, but fuck.

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    Based on the GOP approach to school shootings, they should deliver thoughts & prayers then arm the ticket taker event staff.