June “No Kings” saw the largest single day protests in US history. This is a healthy response by the population. We do absolutely need to move beyond the limits of street protests, and onto the development of a mass strike movement; however, the fact that masses of people are willing to go out and protest on a largely spontaneous basis is significant. What is needed is clear revolutionary political perspective. When this understanding grips the masses, particularly the working class, the movement will take on an explosivly historic significance.
I don’t feel like it’s ever going to progress past this though. It only gets this far because it’s as convenient as possible. The no kings protest emptied out after only a couple hours last time I expect the same here no one commits any amount of sacrifice.
I’m sure that walking or standing around holding signs with passive aggressive messages on them will convince the regime to pack up and leave. That’s how the Nazis were beat the first time around, right?
The Nazis were beaten through foreign intervention. I’m guessing the same thing will need to happen here. Americans are more concerned with making themselves look good (and mainly disagree on whether passive sign-waving or Internet-tough-guy-ism is the best way to do that) than with actually damaging the bottom lines of the people propping up this regime.
I wouldn’t be surprised by that. Imperial Japan had to be forcibly reformed into a democracy.
Before you bomb the white house maybe start with a protest.
It was peoples capitulation and unwillingness to take a stand against the Nazi’s that allowed them to win.
If there had been mass protests things might have turned out very differently.
The American populace has capitulated at every turn.
Their “peaceful protests” have served only to embolden the Nazis by clearly demonstrating how little of a threat they pose.
Every American who isn’t throwing punches is complicit.
A) Capitulate means to stop resisting. Protests are resistance, even if you personally think it’s too little.
B) If violence were to break out, where do you think it’s more likely to happen, out in the streets at a protest, or in the basements of people not willing to even leave the house to show their discontent?
C) How many punches have you thrown so far?
D) Random little acts of violence are likely to be suppressed by the pigs and the military. To be effective we need a plan. What better place are you likely to meet others willing to get off their asses and not just armchair quarterback the revolution than at a protest?
Wow, you managed to hit tired, overly-defensive responses #3, #4, and #5 in one post. Excellent. Great use of your energy right now.
There were literal street fights with armed militias going against the nazis. It is just that the nazis won.
When violence is normalized it gives the advantage to the people most willing to cause suffering.
A big part of their victory, is that the Weimer Republic had apocalyptic economic failings that allowed extreme politics to succeed. I suspect that the Trump Regime will suffer the same, so we might end up having antifa becoming the victorious party.
Of course, whether the antifa are good people is going to be dependent on me and others being there to fill the political void if the Trump Regime is obliterated. I want less Russian Totalitarianism and more Republican France to be the future of my nation.
The French republics that arose due to internal revolution (the first and second republics) were pretty brutal and oppressive in their own right and dissolved into authoritarian regimes before too long. The first one with any staying power (the third republic, which remained in place from 1870 until the Nazi invasion of 1940) was brought about due to France losing a war with Prussia/Germany.
Besides all the other anti equal rights, anti justice, anti democratic, fascist bullshit trump likes, this is also acceptable to him and netanyahu:
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Works for me, and I’m not even in NL.
We need to do a peaceful protest every month till this administration and their dear leader are gone.
Peaceful protests won’t get rid of the regime. What they’re good for is connecting, organizing, demonstrating opposition is a viable size to uncertain bystanders who fear being part of a tiny minority and getting crushed, and generating enthusiasm for further, more ‘strategic’ work.
F*** them up boo, let s**t hit the fan. We need a breaking point, the whole world is DONE with america, or go strike nationally. Paralyze the entire country
Can you please uncensor the two words in your comment? I can’t tell what they’re supposed to be.
As much as I am supportive, it is only realistic to day that it has no impact whatsoever. Until it’s Game On like Donkey Kong, we are just making ourselves feel better. I know, peacefully is how we do it. God be with ya’ll. Just remember this. The oppressors feel that god is on their side when they be getting the 30 Grand bonus for bagging folks. I’d be happy when a peaceful protest followed some ice simpletons home. I’d be interested in that.
Oh you sweet summer child.
If they’re not showing up armed they’re doing fuck all.
I have attended protests and will do so again, but I have no illusions that the fascists will simply ignore them. This may build up more frustration from people, but the sooner we can plan a general strike the better. The nazi ticks are just burrowing deeper.
It’s an hour long protest. What does anyone think that will accomplish. The “tree huggers” chain themselves to things ffs.
If you complain something won’t do anything, then you must propose a better thing or the only thing you want is apathy.
Was “chaining themselves to trees” not clear?
He literally gave an example of a more committed response. We’re lazy
Then chain yourself to a tree.
That’s such a bad interpretation. They need your support to chain themselves to a tree.
Try something like this, and Im serious:
-if you tie yourself to a tree I will tie myself to a tree
-I cant tie myself to a tree because I have legitmit health condition but I will check in on you and share your progress with all my friends
-I totally support you tieing yourself to a tree. I want to see this happen and I admire anyone who would go that far.
Shaming them will only make them bitter… now maybe that is what you want.
Shit don’t suggest organizing. That’s insanity.
I do, and it gets moderated and I get banned. You know this. Don’t be a cunt.
Oh no, not moderated! Sounds like you are ready and willing to actually do something, as long as it doesn’t come with the mildest of inconveniences.
It sounds to me like your solution is violence, but that’s actually a bad idea. Of course I can’t actually argue for or against this “idea” you totally have, because you haven’t stated it.
Although when you come out swinging with insults right out of the gate, it kinda reveals a lot.
More like Gently express disappointment against the regime.
My parents generation got the Black Panthers. My generation gets “I’d be at brunch right now if you just voted for Harris” signs in our protest.
You guys are fucking lame
Seems like a terrible name for it. It sounds kind of juvenile and the other side will latch onto that immediately.
The other side will talk about the huge nationwide “Rage against the Regime” to their base? Even if they try to give it some dumb name, they are still talking about it.
Curious, what name do you think is better?
Seems like a terrible name for it.
Oh we’re doing this again? “Let’s not do what I don’t feel like doing because… uh… I don’t like your tone! That’s it!”
I’m all for it, actually. I’ve just seen things go awry way too many times if you’re not able to condense your message into an airtight sound bite.
And I’ve seen movements killed because tone police give politicians an excuse to bail.
Its sorta sad I never see something like this on the 50501 communities. I feel someone made them with the intention that someone else would do it. Anyway https://www.rageagainsttheregime.org/
Not sure where the details are. I hit find an action and it took me to a page that says 0 events in New York :|
yeah same with my city. there is no way these will not be locations so im guessing they still have org to do at local levels.
If these happen in Democrat-run cities, what is the over/under that Trump sends in the National Guard?
These types of protest. While large and making national news are very unlikely to have that type of response.
These protest are liberals going out and feeling like they did something. Which is obviously better than liberals not going out at all.
The protests that get physical response are the ones that have the potential to build into larger and more active movements. Protest with simple goals like “prevent vehicles from leaving the ICE facility”. As someone that’s been to protest with that goal. 100-200 people with a real material goal are much more likely to have police response than a planned parade.
These “no kings” style protest are essentially just that: planned parades. And are directed through the city in very much the same way. Again, I am not against them. But they are not serving the same purpose.
The military is NOT being used because the size of protest are large. The military is being used as a political tool to form a narrative that justifies more use of violence against civilians.
They wont attack these “protest parades” filled with large amounts of people that are not directly effected by negative effects of their fascist policies. It is much better to keep them as once a month parade members than to risk radicalizing large amounts of them into full time activists if they ever felt the sting of tear gas.
Organizing is step one. Calling it a liberal feel good party does the fascists work for them.
Yes. Because that’s all I said in my comment and that’s the only thing you should take from it. /s
Replies like yours are why I fucking hate the internet. Engage in the actual substance of the comment maybe; instead of just straw manning what I said for the sake of disagreement.
Democratic governors need to be attempting to take control of their national guards
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Kathy Hochul? Yeah I don’t think so.
That’s NYC’s Mayor you’re thinking of.
NYs Governor was a Democratic state rep and lieutenant governor for Cuomo (which hasn’t aged well, but is nothing like that dipshit mayor Adams).
