• WuceBrillis@lemm.ee
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    There is a total of 350 million Americans. Fuck every single one of them for not stopping fascism from taking their government.

    I don’t care if you felt like you did your part, it wasn’t enough. It was on you, now it is on all of us. Fuck Americans.

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      The problem is that no one is at the breaking point yet. You can still go to work, buy things, have a family day, and if you’re a US citizen, you feel safe.

      Now, will that change? Yes, it will. Then maybe enough people will wake up, but until then… no one is going to risk death or getting their families killed. No mass organized resistance to join. Don’t act like it wouldn’t happen to your country either because it can.

      It’s not easy to just saddle up against the greatest superpower to ever exist on Earth.

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        Yeah all these people are acting like there was a ‘Stop Fascism’ button we just decided not to press which is just ignorant. It’s easy to be Mr. TearTheSystemDown from behind a keyboard an ocean away. If it really affects them so much and is so easy why not just come over and do it yourself?

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          We sort of did have a ‘stop fascism’ button, but it was labelled Kamala Harris and a lot of people just weren’t really feeling like voting I guess.

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              If it would keep trump out of office for another four years it would make the odds of him ever regaining power vanishingly small; he’d be in his mid eighties in the next election, and all the lawsuits against him wouldn’t have been thrown out.

              Say what you will about Biden, but he was pretty effective at pausing the slide into fascism. He strengthened ties with our allies and invested in infrastructure. If Harris had won we could have taken back the Supreme Court and actually started reversing course.

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                Say what you will about Biden, but he was pretty effective at pausing the slide into fascism

                He literally welcomed the fascist fuck in with open arms. He didn’t do shit to slow facism and it will be his legacy

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                  18 hours ago

                  You think he should’ve refused to hand over the presidency? How exactly do you think that would’ve gone down?

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                    He could have not had a nice tea time with him, for one

                    Or had him killed, or pointed out that Trump literally has no legal right to the office

                    anything other than “oh hey Mr fascist welcome in let me take your coat and serve you food” like seriously?

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                Trump isn’t the problem. He’s too stupid and too old to have planned enough or worked hard enough to accomplish the things he has.

                Fascism was happening in the US regardless of if it was wrapped in a golden toilet or not.

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                  Well it relied on trump being in power to take effect. Having a useful idiot in the executive opens a lot of doors. I don’t see how the Republicans could seize power without him, Vance wasn’t ever going to win on his own.

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                    It just takes someone popular. Under Bush jr, Biden’s patriot act was passed and brought the US into the early stages of outright fascism. Under Obama state and corporate power fully combined when people had to start paying corporations for the right to have healthcare or be fined. Under trump this all has only expanded.

                    Fascists don’t need a useful idiot, they just need someone popular. And guess what’s just a popularity contest?

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                Say what you will about Biden

                I held my nose voting for him, but Biden was the best president of my lifetime.

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          There was not nearly enough assassination attempts of Donald Trump between 2020 and 2024. You had your chance, and wasted it.

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          Sure and a great movement. This guy was talking about just rising up with violence. Not happening unless you want a quick death. I’m all for mass protesting and it’s a good sign it’s getting a massive following.

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      21 hours ago

      I understand the sentiment to some degree, but wherever you live, I’d be very curious if there’s a growing far-right party in your country.

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        I live across the pond, and your country is threatening invasion of mine. I am not in your fucking village.

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            19 hours ago

            That’s like your friend threatening someone at the club, and you insisting that he is only joking. Fuck that.

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              No it’s like the neighborhood drunk sitting at the corner of the sidewalk being belligerent and me saying “he probably isn’t gonna be able to stand up”. He might. He might hurt you. He is definitely a terrible presence and makes everything worse, and will make everything worse until he dies, but I don’t have the power to stop it.

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                Reducing the harm he can do and already has done to be the drunk at the sidewalk, isn’t helping anything.

                Besides, you most definitely do have the power to shut him up. You just won’t.

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      what does “fascism” even mean? i get the impression people use it to describe “things they don’t like”. is there any clear definition?

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      Some country had to take one for the team. You’re welcome for reminding the world that fascism is bad. It needed the reminder. It really needed the reminder.