• morphballganon@mtgzone.com
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    2 days ago

    They’ve observed that being anti-war didn’t work, so they switched tactics. You want them to keep beating the same dead horse?

    • شاهد على إبادة@lemm.ee
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      19 hours ago

      Opposition to the Iraq War is why I voted Democratic. Supporting the Genocide in Gaza is why I stopped voting for them. But I am sure they did the math and determined that votes like mine didn’t matter.

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            Not alone, but if you convince a few hundred thousand people in a few key states to not vote against a dictator…

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              How is it my fault that the Democrats decided genocide was the way to go? We tried outreach, we tried talking to our representative and congressperson, and not just me. We were formally from the top-down pushed aside and ignored.

              “We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”

              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/uncommitted-leaders-stand-2024-strategy-trump-floats-gaza-takeover-rcna190782

              What difference does it make if the genocide was being committed by Democrats or Republicans? It is the same to me.

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      When the hell did the Democrats ever try being anti-war? Are you talking about George McGovern in 1972? Because they’ve been rabid hawks for as long as I’ve been alive.

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      They’ve observed that being anti-war didn’t work, so they switched tactics.

      When, in 1980? Because that’s the last time the Dem leadership was antiwar and a SHITLOAD has changed in the 45 years since.

      You want them to keep beating the same dead horse?

      The dead horse they’ve been beating is unconditional support of a fascist apartheid regime, which was one of the big reasons why they lost to the most unpopular presidential candidate in history the second time.

      Another case of equine carcass abuse that cost them is their insistence on “considered voting for the GOP but might not” is the most important demographic and their stubbornly ignoring their own base and stated principles as a result.

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        TBH I think Israel was heading in a good direction under PM Rabin, but he got assassinated and Netanyahu has spent decades in power despite his criminal charges.

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      Anti-war coalition is what gave Democrats a solid majority to Obama. He kept at the wars and eroded the coalition until the RNC could field Trump and win.

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        And Obama was criticized 24/7 for keeping an active military campaign the entire 8 years and keeping Guantanamo Bay open, despite his spreading out of US troops and signing deals with the various nations towards the purpose of strengthening of middle eastern borders and improving quality of life in the region with agriculture (Feed the Future Initiative), trade, and hospitals being the only true path to peace and prosperity.

        Even then, war will continue to exist in the Middle East so long as USA, EU, Russia, and China are all backing different governments militarily in the region such as Israel with the west and Iran with the east.

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        Only thing American voters cared about was American soldiers dying. Majority of Americans didn’t even remember or cared that a million Iraqis died.

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      I want them to stop being anti-poor.

      I don’t care if their policies look like they support the poor when they can’t ever get anything passed that forces the rich to make concessions