It is not limited to California, I assure you.
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Last week I was walking down the street with my kids, and some loose dog comes running at my youngest. I’m holding both kids’ hands, so I kicked at the dog to keep it away without actually hitting the dog.
All of a sudden, its absentee owner comes out of the woodwork to threaten “if you kick my dog I’ll kick you!” I just hung on to my kids and kept on walking. I would rather get kicked than let his dog do whatever it was going to do to my kid. I’m not going to stop and get in a fight with this idiot, but it was simply astounding that he expected random people on the street to care more about his dog than he does.
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You made the right call. That person was definitely a dangerous idiot.
I love dogs but fully support you on this one.
No you’re right. You don’t know that dog’s temperment. Your kids are more important than a loose dog.
Op, did your leg get humped by a dog in a store?
If you think that bad dog owner entitlement is an exclusively Californian issue then I regret to inform you that I have terrible news about the rest of the country.
Tbh I love it when customers bring their dogs to my work (as long as the dog is friendly).
Give some something cute to look at and pet during an otherwise bland day
Work dogs are the best part of my day
I worked a retail gig in the Bay Area. I was the only one who tried to enforce the no-dog policy. That was 20 years ago. I wouldn’t bother now.
I’m not a dog person, even the one dog I did have in my household is a shiba inu, which is way more cat-like than anything. I don’t have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they’re well behaved…
BUT
Don’t take your dog to a venue or bar with loud live music. Just because you’re comfortable with loud music doesn’t mean your dog is. I imagine it’s pretty hard on their much more sensitive hearing and our vet confirmed this to me.
Thats my 2¢
Amazon has faux emotional support certs. Harnesses, and badges. Do with that information as you will.
I got a dog to spend time with it. It sleeps with me, it goes to work with me, it goes to bars with me. Don’t like it? Not my problem.
Freedom goes both ways you ding dong. A store owner has every right to ban non-service dogs from their store. Don’t like it? Not the store owner’s problem.
Who says they have a problem with the store owner’s not allowing them though? They both can have no problem. Lmao.
I’m mad about it too.
Your dog bites someone and it becomes a big YOU problem.
Can i come with my pet snake to your workplace? Can i come with a girafe? How about a donkey? A hippo? aAgoat? A duck? Where is the line?
I would be 100% thrilled if a giraffe showed up at my corporate office, and I can’t imagine feeling anything else.
Probably where the animal interfere with the work? Imo doesn’t matter what kind of animal you bring as long as it’s not a nuisance. The line isn’t drawn by species but behaviour
I.e got a chill duck that just hangs around that’s fine. Hyper puppy that chews on cables and pisses on all the plants, not so much. As for a hippo you would have to check the buildings structural integrity.
Working retail I never enforced the no dogs policy. We actually did have a lady bring in her bearded dragon. She let me hold it. Ironiclly the only animal I wish I could have kicked out was a legally blind woman’s service dog. It’s a loud and vicious chihuahua. That little guy is such an asshole. It barks at anyone who walks past it.
There it is!
You can always assume what kind of person brings dogs into establishments.
“I’m a paying customer, fuck you!! I’ll do what I fucking want!!”, is their mantra.
You trained it too though, right?
Right?!?
Animals don’t belong in places that sell food. Animals don’t belong in office supply stores. Animals don’t belong in post offices. Animals don’t belong in any business other than a vet’s office or pet supply store that specifically allows them.
If you can’t train your animal to be home alone long enough for you to run some errands, then you shouldn’t own a pet.
Animals don’t belong in post offices
Then how do you mail the animal?
Not to be pedantic but we fall under the classification of Animals. And anywhere they allow children 5 and under I’m bringing my pet to. Children are 100 times worse than the worst behaved pet
Animals make your food. Shocking I know. At least they wash their hands. All my service dog does is lay under the table, and bother me if she needs to alert.
What about service dogs?
Those should be an exception, obviously. But in CA we have a big problem with service animal fraud. It’s bad for people with disabilities because
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the ones who actually need animals get undue criticism, and
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people with severe dog allergies have elevated exposure.
I think a good solution would be if the service harnesses had a QR code that linked to a state govt website with the animal’s picture.
I’ve never heard of service dog fraud tbh that’s silly
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There are some stores, like Home Depot, Home Goods, and Michael’s (in the US), that are historically pet friendly. Leashed and good manners only of course, but it’s great for socializing a pet and making an employee’s day with cute puppies to break up the retail monotony.
A store that explicitly states service animals only, or has no sign, is not appropriate.
These policies work out for the business as well, especially when the store shares a plaza with a pet supply place.
People bringing their dogs to store A might see store B and want to shop there, too. If store B bans pets, that means people either have to bring their dogs home and come back (which is a pain, and people might not return at all), or leave the dogs in their car (which is dangerous or even illegal.) Smart business people don’t want people leaving without shopping, and people with any sense of decency don’t want dogs left in cars.
So when store B explicitly permits people to bring their pets, people can go straight there from Store A without worry. Customers are happy, dogs are happy, business people are happy, and no pets have to suffer in a locked vehicle.
Only the allergics and phobics aren’t, but who cares… /s
These rules seem arbitrary and capricious. If the dog is well-trained, the owner is able to meet its needs on the go, and nobody else is explicitly being bothered, there’s no compelling reason to block it from any of these establishments.
All of the above hold true for therapy animals, for instance. This isn’t about the animal being well-trained, it is about both the pet and the person to be comfortable and happy, without impinging on the comfort and happiness of others. Locking well-behaved pets out of all of the above establishments does nothing to improve your comfort or happiness. It only serves to inconvenience others.
Barring animals from places that sell food is not arbitrary and capricious, it’s a safety issue.
How many people have suffered physical harm from ordering food adjacent to a service animal?
Am I google now?
There is a difference between a pet and a service animal…
Safety how? What exactly is happening between my dog that stays on the floor and your food?
Well no, the intent is not to inconvenience others, but to not inconvenience yourself.
I love animals. Dogs, cats, rabbits, whatever. Love them all. I’m highly allergic to most of them though.
As a customer of an establishment, why do I need to deal with the animal that belongs to another customer of the establishment? And I’m not being a jerk. I’m not complaining or making a fuss, but if I’m trying to buy toilet paper I shouldn’t need to worry about hair, dander, or if somebody’s dog is well behaved or not. I am the one being inconvenienced, and there doesn’t seem to be a good reason for it.
That goes to the point of the comment you replied to. And to your point, if nobody else is being bothered… Are they checking if others are being bothered? Usually not. That’s a generalization but I can say in my experience it’s true more often than not (and I notice when it is). I’m not saying to ban pets in stores, but it should not be the norm and expect others to just deal with it.
I love dogs. I love looking at them. I love playing with them. Dogs are the best.
But don’t fucking bring your dog…
People are scared of dogs. People are allergic to dogs.
I know you love your dog, I probably love your dog too but I don’t think I should bring my dog anywhere indoors and/or crowded and neither should you.
Obviously!!! If your dog is a service dog, I am not talking about you and your dog. You just make me sad because I can’t play with your dog :( even tho they are such a good boy/girl…
You can ask people with service dogs if it’s ok to pet and most times they are fine with that, the issue is with people running up and petting the dog without asking. Service dogs are very well behaved and usually love a good head pat
Then it’s likely not a service dog, but an emotional support animal. There is a MASSIVE difference, and people treat them like they are the same.
Eta: so I may not be entirely right. In my experience, I was always told if they’re dressed for service they shouldn’t be touched by anyone else.
No I have known a lot of people with service dogs, not emotional support dogs. You ask for permission because some dogs must not be interrupted during their work, if you ask and they say it’s fine then it’s fine. The thing is that you have to be prepared for them to say no and be able to accept that
No. The difference is in level of training. Some service dogs need to remain undistracted. Other service dogs are alerting on things they notice no matter how distracted they are. This is why you ask.
ESAs complicate the whole thing
Not really. I actually like this meme because it specifies the dog is misbehaving. There is no protection for a misbehaving dog.
This is so stupid. Grow up.
If you don’t want your leg humped, then stop dressing so provocatively.
This is an all states thing not just CA. Your dog does not belong at the grocery store
- Get humped by a dog.
- Whine like a removed.
You’d think removedes would like getting humped by dogs.
