The Republican Office of New Mexico's headquarters in Albuquerque was intentionally set on fire in an act of arson.
  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 days ago

    Masked thugs kidnapping people, including PhD students, off the street and into unmarked vehicles.

    Yeah, I’d say ICE has some things in common with the KKK.

    Also, the burned look works well on that building.

  • MasterNerd@lemm.ee
    23·
    2 days ago

    I find it hard to believe anyone would actually equate ICE with the KKK when the only thing they really have in common is racism. They’re much more equatable to the Gestapo and KGB

  • The_Caretaker@lemm.eeEnglish
    84·
    2 days ago

    A reminder to people who call this an act of violence, it isn’t. Violence can only be committed against living things. This is arson which is a type of vandalism. If there are people or animals inside, then it’s violence. If only property is damaged it’s vandalism or sabotage, depending on the purpose of the damage.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    23·
    2 days ago

    The reason why the fascists want you to protest peacefully, is because it makes it easier for them to ignore you.

  • futatorius@lemm.ee
    10·
    2 days ago

    I wonder if someone parked a Tesla next to the HQ. They seem to have a habit of spontaneously combusting.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 days ago

      Peaceful protests exist because the next step is citizens asking their governments less nicely if their demands are not heard.

      • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        I get that, but I feel this was a false flag.

        I mean, did someone really cut stencils for this?

        • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          did someone really cut stencils for this?

          Using a stencil means they can leave their mark quickly (with less chance of being stopped), and repeat it in multiple locations just as quickly.

          • IfIonlyhadaBrain@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            2 days ago

            So be prepared for some insane otherwise blatantly illegal, un-American, anti-democratic, fascist shit? Also known as another day of the trump presidency?

            We have not reached the floor. I don’t see mass daily protests or armed insurrection. Apparently we’re all ok with this so far. When the fascists have pushed so far that people will sacrifice some comfort and safety to do something about it is when we reach the floor. Right now, people are still too comfortable.

          • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            before the blatant power grab, not after it.

            You aint seen nothing yet… Wait for martial law.

      • pyre@lemmy.world
        61·
        3 days ago

        they’ve already taken over. this is retaliatory, and therefore not analogous.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
          33·
          3 days ago

          Hitler was chancellor already when the reichstag fire started. What it did was allow him to seize absolute control. We’re not there yet. Courts are still ruling against trump. Elections haven’t been cancelled yet. It’s a mistake to assume things are already as extreme as they’re going to get.

          • pyre@lemmy.world
            50·
            3 days ago

            they’re currently disappearing people for looking funny and sending them to blacksites to be abused and tortured just for the sake of it, and they’re not obeying court orders. they also have already had the Supreme Court give them a get out of jail free card for literally anything the president may do. they’re decimating the institutions on the demands of an unelected, unofficially acting billionaire. they’re literally erasing women and black people as well as other minorities from history.

            I think it’s a bigger mistake to pretend they still have ways to go. this is through and through fascism. at this point, if they fire up the ovens, it will only be the continuation of their current actions, barely an escalation.

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
              4·
              3 days ago

              I think it’s an even bigger mistake to think that starting a fire in a single state’s party HQ is going to move the needle at all. It’s not going to hurt them. It is going to give them ammo. Go big or go home.

              • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
                17·
                3 days ago

                Perhaps instead of being a big meanie pants you could look outside and realise that just because they’re also nazis it doesn’t mean everything has to happen 100% word-for-word the exact same way like some kind of shitty sci-fi movie. I get that the symbolism is compelling and everything. But nevertheless burning down nazi buildings is good, actually.

              • arotrios@lemmy.worldEnglish
                13·
                3 days ago

                You’re both right, and you both got my upvotes.

                The current administration will absolutely use any unrest it can to solidify its grip, and they are, as @[email protected] mentions, looking for just such an event to declare martial law.

                But @[email protected] is also correct in understanding that this process has already begun, and that retaliatory actions are not specifically analogous, especially as it’s very likely that the Reichstag fire was a false flag event engineered by the Nazis themselves as an excuse for Kristallnacht.

                Will this kind of event help in the long term? I’m uncertain. On the one hand, it’s really good to see resistance take physical form with the potential to inspire further action, but on the other, it means that the right can use it as an excuse to further oppress. Since the mass media has been captured by the right, it’s most likely that the perception of this event will be tailored to reflect the latter.

                So, unless this action created an impact on the GOP beyond simple property damage (like destroying lists of political opponents they’re looking to deport), I think this action will likely backfire per @the_crotch’s conclusion. However, that could be offset by the publicity inspiring further resistance on the left. And @pourous_grey_matter is very correct in understanding that we have a very small window of opportunity to act.

                So kiss and make up - you’re on the same side, and celebrate the fact that you can argue about tactics publicly.

                We may not have that option for much longer.

              • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
                5·
                3 days ago

                History doesn’t exactly repeat. It sometimes rhymes. Just because it happened one way doesn’t mean it’ll go the exact same way again.

              • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
                10·
                3 days ago

                I, uhh, was being sarcastic. It is in fact allowed to do that on the internet, even if you don’t actively announce it. But I definitely am a coward though.

          • ZK686@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            Oh brother… here we go… I remember hearing all this Hitler bullshit during Trump’s first term…