Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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    I’m feeling pretty certain the dems will run Buttigieg. Feels like they’ve been prepping him for a while.

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    Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.

    He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.

    So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.

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        She is a cop. She dropped out in 15th place in the 2020 primary before she was embarrassed in her home state of California. They should have never ran her and that’s why they didn’t do a primary.

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          Hey check out this hotshot over here with a long term memory! No, didn’t you hear she ran a perfect campaign they just couldn’t get enough celebrity endorsements…

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        Or she could have not played this game, that she willfully engaged in. Harris is the epitome of a career politician that rose through the ranks by doing what the party elites wanted her to do.

        Once she was announced candidate, she had all the options to go for her own platform and grow a spine, if she has one. Also that is a quality that is crucial in a president, who wants to lead the supposedly most powerful country on earth.

        And this shows, what the DNC wants. They dont want a strong leader. They want a puppet they can control. This is also why they were more than happy to have Biden go for another 4 years, not despite, but because of his declining mental state making him a great puppet.

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          Yeah, they would have blamed all the inflation on our first woman president and used it to denounce women for another half a century. If she helped Israel she would have been called out for Genocide just the same. If she didn’t she would have been called weak and emotional, unfit to be president.

          Really it was a no win situation for her.

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      Yep. I remember a time when the Beltway insiders were acting like Amy Klobuchar was a rising star or some such, LOL.

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    Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers’ questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he’d been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.

    President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we’ll get.

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      Your black woman president actively help sending bombs to kill brown people in gaza. Not to mention all the brown people she fed to the private prison industry.

      As a good liberal, you probably think of brown people as human as long as they’re rich and american

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        Are we playing the accuse people of having political views they don’t have game? Okay okay! My turn!

        You’re a posadist. You want to encourage global nuclear war so society will collapse and communist aliens will save us. And I think your ideology is silly and look down on you for following it!

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          Honestly? I wasn’t until last year but seeing yall cheering for genocide I wish the russians bombs new york lmao. Just imagine all the dead yanks

          How does your own medecine feels like, removed?

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            How dare you say those things about my mother? I’ll have you know the chemical number for carbon is 6. You’re a fool for believing that vaccines cause autism.

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      I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman

      Really? Electing president by the color of the skin and/or sex? You totally deserve the current president then. He perfectly symbolizes your values: racism, sexism and degeneratism.

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            Just for shits and giggles, I’ll try giving an actual argument.

            In 2016, Hillary Clinton was right. It was her turn. She won the popular vote. I hate everything about that woman. I hate that she’s part of a dynasty, I hate that she rigged the primaries, I hate that her campaign donated money to Trump because they thought radicalising the right would lead to an easy win.

            But she was right. The people did want a woman president, and that’s what they voted for. Walz is a really nice, genial guy. I like him. If he were a woman, I think he’d be a different person, or he’d not be a politician. Because to be a woman in the heart of the patriarchy, you need to be strong. You have to have unbreakable armour with no cracks. If the sexist system is challenged, then maybe the next woman president can be a nice person like Walz. But if we keep on having this system where women have to fight to be taken seriously and then aren’t liked for being fighters, then we’re never gonna have equality.

            I don’t really care all that much about how good Harris is with a spreadsheet. Her debate and interview performance is important to me in a primary, not in a presidential election. At that point, I’m thinking about the future. About the girls who are going to become women in government. I want them to have more role models. I care way more about that than if Harris is nice, or if her budget plan is perfect.

            I think Harris can be what America needs better than Walz can. Personality is only important in an election, symbolism is important in the white house.

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    Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I’ve heard in a while.

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      There’s going to be an election, or we’re going to learn the meaning of “All enemies, foreign and domestic”.

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      You’re talking to americans, dude. They sure want to win, but they also need to kill brown people abroad, it’s good for the economy.

      Americans are inherently genocidal, that’s how it got their country. They are simply unable to comprehend foreigners as human beings.

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        If you were able to comprehend foreigners as fully human, you would understand why people were upset about genocide.

        But hey, maybe buy a heart on amazon, you cold-blooded scumbag.

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    Idk who needs to hear this, but Tim Walz is pretty moderate and centrist. You’re not going to unite the splintered left with Tim Walz.

    The biggest barrier Democrats have is that left leaning voters are not going out and voting for them.

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    I really do think Tim Walz has a real chance. A very likeable guy.

    Doesn’t hurt that he’s white and male, too.

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    Yay back to the same old same old likeable candidate who will do the same old same old things that will eventually allow for another Trump. Rinse and repeat…

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      I’m not sure I agree if you look at the early campaign when he first joined he was very much not doing the same old same old… for like 2 weeks.

      Then Harris decided to go full corporatism and muzzled him. I’m not sure he’s right to run, but I’d trust him way more than most other dems.

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      That’s more time for the lazy Americans to organise and have a communist revolution. That’s the goal. Delay fascism until the workers get their act together.

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        Americans will never revolt. Period. They’ll change their pfp and hashtag and protest peacefully, but will never do what’s necessary to ensure a fair and meaningful existence for us all.

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          Okay, so you’re saying a socialist USA is entirely impossible.

          Then isn’t a neoliberal USA better than a Nazi USA? Just for 4 years? Isn’t 4 years of bad better than 4 years of awful?

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    The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.

    How the hell is that a gaffe? It’s both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.

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      The pearl-clutching Tone Police in the Democratic Party are nothing if not exhausting, that’s for sure.

      The Republicans can and do say just about whatever the fuck they want, and that’s sanewashed, and overlooked, and brushed under the rug, sometimes even celebrated, but the tone police in the “liberal media” and the left, and the Democratic Party itself will be there, wagging-finger at the ready, if some Democrat misses a semicolon .

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      Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.

      The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor’s statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, “needs to go”.

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      and exactly what people want to hear

      It’s what people who care about democracy want to hear. That certainly isn’t everyone.

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      Just guessing, but it might be a gaffe because it could be skewed to sound like he doesn’t believe in democracy. Of course, this makes no sense because Trump has quite literally said that we might not need another election in four years.

      A more careful statement might have been, “the electoral college needs to be replaced with a system where every citizen’s vote has the same magnitude.” If that’s not the mathematical ideal of democracy, I don’t know what is.

      Edit: For you pedantic mathematicians, I’ll add that everyone’s vote should have the same magnitude, and that magnitude should be greater than zero.

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        If that’s not the mathematical ideal of democracy,

        That is the mathematical ideal of populism.

        Democracy is “government by consent of the governed”; There is no good way of democratically electing a singular individual. Which is why the presidency should be little more than a figurehead, with very little actual authority.

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                Again: Democracy is government by the consent of the governed. The system you described made no effort to ensure constituent consent. You described a populist system, not a Democratic one.

                There are many good ways to popularly elect a singular representative. The one you described is one of the better ones, but it is still two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner. It is still populist: the sheep does not consent to a “government” that can put it on a menu.

                A democratic system would be one in which the government lacks the power to put the sheep on that ballot: the minority has no cause to protest.

                There are no good ways to democratically elect a singular representative. As soon as you allow that representative sufficient power that the minority protest, the appointment of that representative over the minority may be populist, but it is not democratic.

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      i’m not even sure what that text is supposed to be referencing?

      I assume it’s not literally the message itself, because that would be kind of broad. I’m guessing he just said it weirdly, and that bothered people, because of course it did.

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    I live in MN. Last year Tim W was having his house renovated. So he rented a house for over 17000 dollars a month for him and his family to live in while his house was worked on. MN tax payers paid for this. Absolutely ridiculous.

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      This is categorically false and I’m pretty sure you know it. The Sunfish Lake house was a possibility on a list of options, but turned down for the high cost. He ended up renting Eastcliff house on the University of Minnesota campus for only $4,400/mo.