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MrLoewenzahn@feddit.org to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

Musk: Canada is not a real country

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More than 250 Canadian citizens and residents have signed a petition calling for Elon Musk to be stripped of his Canadian citizenship. Musk's ties to US President Donald Trump, who plans to impose a 25 per cent tariff on all Canadian imports next month and has spoken of Canada as a "terrorist" country, have been strained.
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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    USA is not a real country, it’s territory stolen and occupied from the native population.
    Musk is not a real human, he is a walking talking NAZI disease.

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      USA is not a real country, it’s territory stolen and occupied from the native population.

      Maybe think of a comeback that doesn’t also apply to Canada

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        So did Canada have wars with the original population like USA did?
        Isn’t it more like they are living together now? Where USA created small reservations for Indians after killing and beating them into submission.

        I’m from Denmark, and nobody was forced to leave this land for us to live here.

        • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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          I mean, I had been reading about the native people’s of Canada not too long ago and how they have been historically fucked by the Canadian government, and continue to be fucked over in modern times. Especially all those articles about schools for the native people’s where they were finding mass graves of students.

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            Yeah. Last hundred years or so US racists have been focused on black people and Mexicans, whereas in Canada first nations take the brunt of it.

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              Mexicans are Native Americans. The “black people” part of what you wrote is the only real difference.

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                They’re certainly native to the Americas, but they’re descended from a drastically different culture than the ones in the eventual US and Canada and targeted a lot more. I feel it’s accurate to differentiate Mexicans from (for example) Sioux or Navajo or Pequot, particularly when talking about modern day race relations in the United States.

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                  Being oppressed isn’t a contest.

                  That said, if you think Mexicans have been oppressed more by the US than the natives living further north, you should probably study your history better. At least folks of Aztec descent still exist in significant numbers, instead of having been mostly killed off!

                  Also don’t forget about the millions of people native to former northern Mexico (Texas, California, and the land between) who became American citizens by virtue of those territories being ceded to the US, then later got deported anyway.

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                Modern Mexicans are mostly Mestizo, mixed Spanish and indigenous peoples (Aztec, Maya, etc.).

                • grue@lemmy.world
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                  So are most US Native Americans and Canadian First Nations folks.

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          Canada had the Residential School system, which was a genocide, don’t take my word for it, it’s one of the conclusions the Truth and Reconciliation report described as a cultural genocide, archive link. The last federal school closed in 1997, there’s been mass graves found at some of these in the news over the last decade. Many of these schools were religious and as recently as 2017 the PM was seeking a formal apology from the pope (of the Christian denoms, Catholicism is the majority).

          Canada’s history is almost more sinister, we’d do well to never forget that if we want to address the systemic problems that remain to this day.

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            OK, so Canada is only as real as USA then, I don’t see how that helps Musk’s argument.

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          So did Canada have wars with the original population like USA did?

          Yes

          Isn’t it more like they are living together now?

          No

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_gravesites

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_reserves_in_Canada

          I’m from Denmark, and nobody was forced to leave this land for us to live here.

          Maybe not in the last couple of hundred years

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            hundred thousand

            There’s plenty of archeological evidence that the populations of Scandinavia are more or less those that followed the ice and were the first to populate the region after the ice age. That is: They are the native or “original” inhabitants of the land.

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          Isn’t it more like they are living together now? Where USA created small reservations for Indians after killing and beating them into submission.

          Canada’s history (including very recent history) with natives has been bad, which includes the forced assimilation programs that didn’t end until the mid 1990’s…

          • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            don’t forget forced sterilization of Indigenous women, the last documented case (that I can find) of which happened in

            checks notes

            2018

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          Sorry for the down votes. Yeah canada had a horrible history with the first nations peoples.

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          zsgdf

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_colonization_of_the_Americas

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              sdg

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          Anglo Canada’s and US history is the same from the late 16th century until US’ Independence in the late 18th century… Then it was just the same thing but by two different countries.

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          The Neanderthals were forced to leave.

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            Nope they were never here.

            Edit:
            To the morons downvoting, Neanderthals couldn’t live this high north:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Population
            Neanderthals never reached any part of Scandinavia.

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              No, they’re running the US.

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          Don’t bark up this tree. You can have the right idea and let this go.

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      Where my Clovis people at?

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      It’s neat how this entire thread devolves into cheap whataboutism.

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        What, do you expect us to engage in good faith with this kind of bullshit?

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    More than 250 Canadian citizens and residents have signed a petition calling for Elon Musk to be stripped of his Canadian citizenship.

    It was 250 thousand. But I’m pretty sure it got even higher than that.

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      Well 250,000 is more than 250 so they’re technically correct (the best kind of correct)…

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      Iirc it’s over 300k now

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    Fascist doing very dangerous fascist stuff. Seriously we’ve got to stop these fascists before they start WWIII.

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      I would argue that it’s already begun (obviously, without formal declarations of war from belligerents involved in the various theaters of operations), but I’m open to hearing why that’s not the case.

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    deleted by creator

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      Yep.

      It’s easy to just get angry and flippant over him saying this, but this is explicitly fascist rhetoric and should be taken seriously, even though he will play it as a joke if questioned, just like the Sieg Heil salutes.

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    Musk doesnt hav real hair

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      No he does, but it’s another man’s hair. He needed gender affirming care because he didn’t feel good about his appearance, and that care happened to be some other man’s hair.

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        Does he have to take immunosuppressants so his “body” doesnt reject them?

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          I hope so!

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      And a mangled dick from a botched angry inch lengthening procedure.

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    Canada’s sovereignty mocked by someone who got citizenship through family ties—irony overload.

    😾😾

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      We are in a post irony phase since a long time

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    This is the same shit Russia said about Ukraine when they invaded, isn’t it?

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    He sounds like that Nazi putin.

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    What in the South Park The Movie: Bigger Longer and Uncut is this fucking timeline??

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    For a certain someone in the comments who I’ve already blocked:

    Remember kids, don’t feed the trolls. Let them get bored with no reaction and fuck off on their own

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    Countries are just a social construct.

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    If it’s not a real country, then it cannot issue a citizenship, problem solved in my mind.

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    Then his citizenship there is now null and void.

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    Musk doesn’t have real friends.

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    Just because he’s an inept moron doesn’t mean that he’s not a terrorist.

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