I’d like to thank everyone for my most upvoted post on lemmy ever. Not only have you upvoted it to the top for like 2 days you commented the shit out of it. I’d like to take this opportunity to say fuck the mods of this instance. This was my second post coming off a 30 day ban and I want to say these fucking mods have been nothing but removedes. I’ve never been more attacked on any other instance, subreddit, forum, etc. then I have been in this fucking instance. Not only have I been attacked I’ve been told my memes arent memey enough again and again.
I’ll be honest, I do not know how to make a meme but I keep posting just to piss in these mods cheerios.
Thanks lemmy.world/politicalmemes for being the worst community I’ve ever been a part of.
After Roe v Wade went down with no response, I lost any hope I had of ever seeing Americans revolt for anything. This year I already didn’t expect them to do anything.
LMAO all the people in this thread crying about how there is gonna be a “revolution.”
There ain’t gonna be a revolution. You all won’t do shit. Lemmy posters make way too much money to do anything other than talk about revolution.
Nothing is going to change. lol
Your hubris tells a different story than you think it does.
Murica is drunk off fast food and too weak to fight their tyrannical government
Finnish hockey reporter went to see 4 Nations tournament in NA and a cab driver in Boston started to talk about politics to him when he heard that he is from Europe. The driver told that Ukraine shouldnt have started the war and told that Trump will end the war. The Finnish reporter told him that actually Russia started the war and the driver didnt believe him. Cab driver also asked is Finland a NATO member. Yes. ”How did Russia respond?” ”We didn’t ask them”. The reporter questioned americans ability to double check the ”news” that are told to them. He said that driving in that cab was like listening to Fox News or Trump speaking himself.
Revolt? when the country is full of these ”cab drivers”.
Cab driver also asked is Finland a NATO member. Yes. ”How did Russia respond?” ”We didn’t ask them”.
I didn’t even know Finland joined NATO.
Them and Sweden. Sweden used to be kinda ambivalent about the whole thing cause they have SAAB
We have cheap debt. It delays things anywhere between 3 months to 100 years.
They live in a culture of cowardice. They think violence is a shameful thing. They’re taught passivity from birth. Instead of learning to fight honourably, they’re taught not to fight at all. Not to yell. Not to argue. Not to protest. Not to kill. It’s the morality underpinning their society. It’s a mind prison that makes them into obedient servants to the master class.
Id argue it’s an entirely different issue. Our country has no problem with violence, the numbers make that abundantly clear. I feel the issue more so stems from a lot of people here being relatively indifferent to things that don’t directly affect them. Many, if not most Americans are rabidly individualistic, they care about themselves, and a very small circle around them with everything outside that small circle being the “others” those others being the ones they blame for all their issues. As long as nothing negatively impacts their small circle they care about, they don’t give a shit.
That individualism in a lot of places itself stems from how rural and spread out a majority of the country is. Shit, even for me to go join a protest at the Capitol of just my state is a 3 hour drive each direction, and I don’t even live in one of the bigger states. This country is so spread out in many areas that it’s hard for many to care, let alone actually get involved if they do care.
You mix that individualism with a lot of really, incredibly stupid people, im talking half of the country can only read at a 6th grade level or less, and the fact that a large swath of people are living paycheck to paycheck and literally don’t have the time or resources to get out and protest unless they’d like to be homeless without Healthcare, and this is the result you get. There have been tons of protests, quite a few of which have gathered some pretty good traction, even if its not shown in the media, but getting something going en masse in this country is nearly impossible.
I submit the price of eggs as evidence that if it were about self interest, there’d be a communist revolution tomorrow.
I see it as less self interest, and more self idolization. As much as people here complain about “being broke” nowhere in the world do people on average have more expendable income than in the US. The price of eggs, or much of anything else for that matter, outside of a hyperinflation scenario, is more of a mild inconvenience to most people here than anything else. Sure, people might have to cut back a little elsewhere and do something horrible like skip a yearly phone upgrade to the newest $1500 phone they don’t need, but they’ll be fine.
Why i see it as self idolization rather than self interest is because what i see is moreso people just attempting to fellate their own ego, with a lot of people in this country, especially in more rural, conservative areas like I’m in, are people that are broke for reasons that are all but entirely their fault, but they don’t want to blame themselves, trump and Republicans give them someone else to point the finger at, and they roll with it because in their tiny, buttery smooth little brains, to them if there’s someone else to blame, and we fix that, then their lives will get better without them having to change what they’re doing, and they like that more than putting the fault where it belongs, on themselves and actually fixing some of their own problems. In their heads, they’d be doing great if it weren’t for x, y, z, that’s completely out of their control, because they’re doing a great job, its “those other people” over there causing all the issues, so it’s “we need to stop those people so my life will get better without me having to do anything, because i’m obviously not doing anything wrong”
If they converted to leftism, they could blame their economic troubles on Donald Trump and Jeff Bezos. Clearly it’s not just looking for someone to blame.
Rabid self interest, and collectivism are kinda mutually exclusive…
I disagree. I know I’ll never be a rich capitalist. But if we’re all rich communists, then I’ll be rich.
Any resistance we do have gets met with “well aktchually” its not doing enough, its too little too late, where was this when? Maybe stfu and pick up a pitchfork mf
Everyone is an armchair general these days
Because half of Americans have no idea what’s going on, a quarter of them support the coup, and out of the remaining quarter, 99% are burnt out wage slaves that are just one missed shift away from losing everything. We literally can’t do anything because we are minority; just rats trapped in a maze.
Four out of three Americans don’t understand fractions.
God fucking dammit. Fixed.
No it’s only 3 thirds us 😡 /s
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That is unfortunately the truth of it.
I’m one of the burned out wage slaves. I like my job, at least, but I’m struggling just to keep my life together, let alone society.
I know that’s true for almost anyone who would be part of a resistance, but the learned helplessness is real.
What you lack is any form of local organized groups to lead anything. You have no unions, you have no opposition parties, not even some Facebook group of people who share the discontent. They successfully broke America into individuals who each can’t do anything on their own.
These are the kind of people that can’t even run into each others without going ballistic over a simple greeting and you expect them to enact a revolt LMAO 🤣
Americans are already revolting.
Zing
I keked
Look, cards on the table, shit IS scary. We’ve got an intelligence apparatus that has every message every one of us has ever sent electronically, and probably microphone data from every Internet connected device we’ve ever been in earshot of, so organizing something a little more potent has to happen nearly spontaneously. You’re dreaming if you think our operatives (or cops for that matter) are above just throwing a bag over your head, breaking your legs and throwing you down a mineshaft. Those intelligence agencies, for most of a century, have been spearheaded by the kind of people that sponsored violent right wing reactionary movements around the world to depose peaceful communist/leftist regimes you’ve maybe never heard of. They’d gladly take this over someone even as far left as Sanders.
Half the country still thinks that everything happening is perfectly cool and normal and totally how a republic works. A lot of the people in power still aren’t convinced that Trump won’t wake up one day and just be normal; they come to each new day of horrors completely shocked and surprised that he continued to be what he said he would, and to suggest that we should maybe do something about that is scandalous to them. Those two things together mean that the meaningful support is not great. Being a lone gunman is unlikely to change much, given that MAGA is a movement, and others around Trump- the people who hand him the EOs, and the billionaires who sponsor them- will remain. Being an armed resistance is effectively a death sentence, and nobody’s quite ready to sign up for that, at least until it’s absolutely clear that the alternative to fighting is just as bad. If I go rogue and catch a bullet, nobody’s going to take care of my family, they’re going to be homeless until RFK sends them off to a camp. Plus, as others have mentioned, it’s pretty goddamn difficult to organize mass protests in DC when everyone who feels like you do is living dollar store hot dog to dollar store hot dog and DC is further from you than Moscow is from London.
For as long as I’ve been alive, the consistent message to the American people has been that help is not coming. The cops will gladly form a task force to come shoot your grandma in her living room, but routinely have argued that they have no duty to protect you. When the BLM protests were happening, a bunch of my coworkers cheered and giggled at videos of cops doing drive by pepper spraying of people who were just walking, and derided that dude (I think it was in Seattle?) who returned fire when the cops shot at him first. When the great recession happened, our government spent a trillion dollars bailing out banks instead of people. If you need assistance, you’re ruthlessly scrutinized and continuously presumed to be a criminal or a parasite, only to be given not nearly enough at the end of it. Not only that, but we’ve even been attacking the helpers. We’ve spent decades eroding the ability to join a union, eroding the efficacy of unions, fighting and propagandizing against them at every turn (it doesn’t help that I’ve had my fair share of experience with worthless unions where the rep wouldn’t even return your calls. I know more people who’ve had experience with weak ass unions than people who’ve had experience with unions that are prepared to bury your boss under a sports stadium). We’re shutting down churches that house the homeless, arresting people who try to feed them, and our authorities have the goddamn audacity to frame that and bulldozing encampments as acts of “compassion” because to not make the homeless miserable is to enable them. Every one fundamentally understands that help is not coming, we must help ourselves, and this is a really, really, really big job for an individual.
So, yeah, I’d say I’m pretty goddamn scared and I feel rational to be so.
The only thing that makes real sense, imo, is to start laying the groundwork for cold balkanization. It will break the federal government’s power, finally allow needed social, legal, and economic changes, and hopefully can be achieved without much bloodshed.
t’s pretty goddamn difficult to organize mass protests in DC when everyone who feels like you do is living dollar store hot dog to dollar store hot dog and DC is further from you than Moscow is from London.
What I learned in recent years, watching North American news, is that, in a car dependent land, you should protest with vehicles.
That… Is a really good idea! I’m going to put that in my pipe and smoke it
Great post, very informative and well analysed. So what DO you think is possible to do for resistance ? If you don’t feel comfortable answering because of the surveillance I understand.
I’m going to offer what support I can to the California Secession initiative. Balkanization could break the power of the federal government and probably meaningfully improve things for folks across the country by finally allowing for long-delayed political reforms.
Good luck. I really hope that succeeds. With the size of California’s economy that would be a very successful country in its own right.
I really hope too, w/o war though… https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/New_California_Republic
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We’ve got an intelligence apparatus that has every message every one of us has ever sent electronically, and probably microphone data from every Internet connected device we’ve ever been in earshot of
Hahaha, no. The idea that devices with microphones are always spying on you is absurd. It just doesn’t happen. It couldn’t happen due to how much power and bandwidth it would require. And if they were it would be the corporations spying, and not the government. As for emails and text messages, sure. The US may collect a lot of data, but they can’t process a lot of data. Look how many violent attacks there have been in the US, and how few have been prevented
They’re really bad at spotting anything before it happens. When attacks fail, it’s almost always because the attacker screwed up, not because the spies found out ahead of time. The Nazi who tried to drive a U-Haul into the White House wasn’t stopped by spies, he was stopped by a security barrier, even though he’d been planning the attack for 6 months.
But, there’s always a small chance that they’ll stumble on you if you’re plotting something.
I think it’s hilarious these random basement dwelling internet people have so much confidence in something they completely have no understanding of. Thanks for the chuckle.
Hijacking this to say, do not work any internet correction service for money, they will use that against you. They save every comment and shade you threw at your own, they will release them if beneficial or it will be hacked in time. Apart from the military that does so and has no legals, you will still be known with every comment you made, it’s all saved, the saving of you doing so is more important to them, bc they can burn you and make money as if they where saving America. Jews where especially targeted in this. I’m jewish btw and my god none of us actually care agout each other, it’s always an immediate lie for some imaginer competion that never existed, it’s just insecurity!
We still have too much to lose in a revolt. Most people are still materially comfortable (or at least that hasn’t changed because of Trump).
What’s fascinated me about the US is that they have a significant population of unhoused people, a lot of them having jobs too. And I kind of see that as their future. And they probably see that as their “worst case”, which only adds to hatred of unhoused people.
There’s an older term that is relevant: “lumpenproletariat”.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines it as “the lowest stratum of the proletariat. Used originally in Marxist theory to describe those members of the proletariat, especially criminals, vagrants, and the unemployed, who lacked awareness of their collective interest as an oppressed class.”[7] In modern usage, it is commonly defined to include the chronically unemployed, the homeless, and career criminals.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat
If the masses see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they don’t see themselves as proletariat (working class). So you get the “rags to riches” story, but in reverse.
dude there hasnt been a good vote since i’ve been alive, the cope is annoying, none of these people are strait up winning kings or queens, you’ll never hear them even talk that way. They will always be fat lazy pieces of garbage to humiliate us. It’s not even a vote, it’s a humiliation ritual. It’s all over the globe, this degeneration, it’s basically like cults took over the world for thier imaginery gods and they fight over them. They never progress.
Hasnt changed cause of trump yet
Yep. So give it time, we won’t do shit until AFTER he burns it all down.
its been so long since i’ve seen an angry german kid meme.
I’ve been seeing a resurgence of 2010s memes lately and I am all for it. The millenials have awoken
look man, if the millenials wanna start being funny, i’m here for it, but if i start seeing people post trollface unironically like they did back in 2010 im going to lose my mind.
problem?
(sorry, I had to)
Revolt? Americans proved that they would rather let the country burn under a fascist psychopath than oppose him and vote for an imperfect alternative. Americans get what they deserve, even the left went full toxic American this election, they can’t unify to oppose shit.
The American leftists are currently surrounded by the fire and wreckage of their future while going “take that democrats”
Our population largely would willingly choose a long, slow boil in a pot over a sudden change to their way of life.
The comforts that come with living in the wealthiest land in the world are more than addicting, they’re dangerous to a society that’s still under threat of being exploited by men with designs on power and control. It’s so easy to leverage a comfortable population. An uncomfortable population is more likely to move, to get up and change something or resist a new order.
So our best hope right now is that things move fast enough to make enough people uncomfortable that our population starts talking in terms of “general strikes” and other forms of protest that will shut the country down long enough to purge the oligarchs either by sending them off or lopping off their heads.
And as weird as it sounds to say in the year 2025, yes I am on board for a revolution with guillotines at this point. When a ruler harms or kills many people for personal gain, they have forfeited their lives and have forgotten that we want rulers who serve us, not kings who crush us.
even the left went full toxic American this election, they can’t unify to oppose shit.
based
Americans uniting to burn the country down =/= revolt?
There is no real revolt or change without violence and anarchy. No protest or movement succeeds without blood
Sorry I was joking that the republicans are the violent protesters currently.
Chill. America will be just fine. Russia and China are falling apart. America is always in a state of strife which make us great.
Russia, maybe, but now Putin has his US puppet back. China will bounce higher and jump on every international opportunity the US is fucking up. It will take the US decades to recover, if at all. This mess is so completely stupid and unnecessary.
China has a real estate debt bubble it is desperately trying to hide.
China’s private real estate market represents less than a third of all real estate and is less than a tenth of the economy.
Then why did China buy up 40 banks to cover it up?
How is eliminating failed management and ensuring the money held in the bank covering it up?
Do you not know how the economy works in China? Over 60% of the economy is public sector, while some of that is just state investment, some is also failed private sector businesses that still would serve a purpose without profit motive.
It would be ridiculously cruel to allow a bank to fail while it still holds the savings of ordinary citizens. And it would be ludicrously stupid to bail out failed companies and just allow them to continue functioning as they had. So you buy them, change the mission, replace the management, everyone except the rich fucks win
Tell that to the LGBTQ, women, immigrants, and minorities. See what they think about it. Come back here with the responses.
I have seen more sexual rights happen faster than minority rights. It’s a slow process with setbacks but it is happening.
idk about china, russia doesn’t seem to be struggling significantly either, especially with the new american government lmao.
https://www.asiafinancial.com/40-china-banks-hit-by-debt-slowdown-merged-in-2024-nweek
https://asiatimes.com/2024/12/ruble-volatility-exposes-russias-emerging-economic-crisis/#
Damage is done. Russia is out of money and China is in a real estate crisis.
russia has no more war chest money* (they are required to subsidized industry directly, or make money from said industry which is now significantly upsized and has more capacity (plus the US peace talks meme))
china is in a real estate crisis, so is america, and canada, and australia, and london, and basically every other high density population area in the world. This literally isn’t new.
Yeah. Russias economy is smoked. Got any evidence otherwise?
China is having to buy their falling banks. Bubble popping .
